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Posted: 2003-01-24 03:37pm
by haas mark
Colonel Olrik wrote: :?

I'm guessing it's one of the differences.. The portuguese Church does not condone that. I would have been circuncised, I'm sure, if that wasn't the case. And it's hard to even know anyone who has performed that operation.
I think it's a SPanish/American thing. [shrugs]

Posted: 2003-01-24 03:42pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
I cannot believe this thread exists...

Posted: 2003-01-24 04:33pm
by Sir Sirius
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Sometimes it can be at a higher risk for infections.
Wrong.
http://www.cirp.org/library/disease/UTI/
Spanky the Dolphin wrote:There's also the occasional occurance where it's too tight during an erection, even to the point where the skin can break. The only way to fix it is to be circumsized at a later age.
Wrong.
http://www.cirp.org/library/treatment/phimosis/dewan/
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Then there's the whole maintainence deal with the damn thing, IIRC...
Well, from personal experience, NO, there is no "maintainence deal" to worry about,

Posted: 2003-01-24 05:17pm
by apocolypse
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote
I cannot believe this thread exists...
Well, we have an orgy thread, a J/O thread, and a few others....it was only a matter of time. :mrgreen:

Posted: 2003-01-24 05:26pm
by aerius
Yup, my foreskin's still intact, and I personally think penises look better with a foreskin attached.

Posted: 2003-01-24 05:32pm
by SyntaxVorlon
Don't forget the buffy and aliens threads.
My parents are athiests and never subscribed to the idea in the first place.

Posted: 2003-01-24 06:02pm
by Icehawk
Im cut. Got it when I was first born so it obviously wasn't a problem. No religious reasons, my parents just decided it was for the better since it supposedly reduced chances of infections and such. I prefer it this way anyways.

There was a brief phase when I was just hitting puberty that I wished I had the skin back but it passed quickly and Im fine with my dick the way it is and wouldn't want it any other way. Well.. Maybe an inch bigger but thats it. :mrgreen:

Posted: 2003-01-24 06:13pm
by Sektor31
I'm not cut, and damn proud of it. Never had problems either, the whole circumcision-will-make-you-healthier is a load of pseudoscientific cow shit. Not only that, circumcision has actually been proven to be more harmful than good (the foreskin is the first line of defense against diseases).

Posted: 2003-01-24 07:02pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Let's not turn this into a fucking debate.

Circumcision is not dangerous or a heath risk: and neither is not having it performed.

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_068b.html
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a940128.html
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/940805.html

EDIT: There is evidece that uncircumcised men are at a (very) slightly greater risk to contract penile cancer, but this appeares to be more related to hygene. And there are rare instances where an uncircumcised male might need to have a circumcision performed later in life, such as failure to fold properly, constriction, or skin tearing. I know because one of my uncles wasn't circumcised when he was born, and had to have it done when he was ~16-18, because his forskin was too tight.

Posted: 2003-01-24 07:04pm
by Darth Wong
I had that particular form of Judeo-Christian ritual mutilation performed on me when I was a baby. I have always felt a sense of violation and injustice over it. Needless to say, my sons are uncut.

Posted: 2003-01-24 07:13pm
by Faram
Uncut and I don't know anyone that is cut.

Posted: 2003-01-24 07:30pm
by aerius
I wonder if there's a medical procedure to graft a foreskin onto a circumsised person?

Posted: 2003-01-24 07:33pm
by ArmorPierce
I'm cut and like it that way. Just about all guys in America are cut.

Posted: 2003-01-24 07:36pm
by ArmorPierce
I think that differing views between the US and Europe on circumcision actually has little to do with a religion divide and more with a divide of pot smoking hippies and conservatives :mrgreen: .

http://www.circinfo.com/questions/ypq.html link for reasons to get circumcised just cause other people are doing it :)

Posted: 2003-01-24 07:44pm
by Icehawk
A 7 year old boy at my moms school is going to get his forskin removed due to an infection. He's apparently had the problem for a few years now. Whether or not he would have gotten the infection without his foreskin I don't know but he does have to get it removed either way.

Posted: 2003-01-24 07:48pm
by Icehawk
Posted by: Darth Wong

I had that particular form of Judeo-Christian ritual mutilation performed on me when I was a baby. I have always felt a sense of violation and injustice over it. Needless to say, my sons are uncut.
I thought your parents weren't into religion?

Posted: 2003-01-24 07:51pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
In regard to Icehawk's post about the 7YO:

There is also the fact that post-infant circumcisions have greater risks and complications (not a lot, but significant) then ones performed on infants, which have very few risks and complications. IIRC, the level of risks and complications also increase as the male grows older, so if you do get one, it's best to do right after they're born.

Posted: 2003-01-24 08:13pm
by kheegster
If you are uncut you can jack off without lubricant without any problems...

Posted: 2003-01-24 08:16pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Same with being cut, at least as far as I've experianced.

Posted: 2003-01-24 08:49pm
by Keevan_Colton
verilon wrote:
Colonel Olrik wrote: :?

I'm guessing it's one of the differences.. The portuguese Church does not condone that. I would have been circuncised, I'm sure, if that wasn't the case. And it's hard to even know anyone who has performed that operation.
I think it's a SPanish/American thing. [shrugs]
Its more a jewish and very american thing in my experience....I dont know a single person here who is circumcised.
Due to a wonderful contract I was legally required to be brought up a catholic....and it isnt a catholic tradition........

Posted: 2003-01-24 08:52pm
by Darth Wong
Icehawk wrote:
Posted by: Darth Wong

I had that particular form of Judeo-Christian ritual mutilation performed on me when I was a baby. I have always felt a sense of violation and injustice over it. Needless to say, my sons are uncut.
I thought your parents weren't into religion?
They're not. When I was born, the hospitals simply did it without asking, unless the parents forcibly stopped them.

Posted: 2003-01-24 08:57pm
by Xisiqomelir
verilon wrote:
The Dark wrote:
verilon wrote:UNcut = gross. Plus, Christian tradition to circumcise (sp?) anyways.
Paul argued against circumcision. It's more of a Jewish tradition IMO, though some Christians do now have circumcision done.
My fault. However, most Catholics, it seems, go with circumcision.
This is untrue, most AMERICAN Catholics might be, but the majority of Catholics aren't.

Posted: 2003-01-24 08:57pm
by Colonel Olrik
Darth Wong wrote:
Icehawk wrote:
Posted by: Darth Wong

I had that particular form of Judeo-Christian ritual mutilation performed on me when I was a baby. I have always felt a sense of violation and injustice over it. Needless to say, my sons are uncut.
I thought your parents weren't into religion?
They're not. When I was born, the hospitals simply did it without asking, unless the parents forcibly stopped them.
:shock:

Fucking unbelievable.

Score another one for Europe.

Posted: 2003-01-24 08:57pm
by Keevan_Colton
Colonel Olrik wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Icehawk wrote: I thought your parents weren't into religion?
They're not. When I was born, the hospitals simply did it without asking, unless the parents forcibly stopped them.
:shock:

Fucking unbelievable.

Score another one for Europe.
Hell yeah.

Posted: 2003-01-24 08:58pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
You were born in Canada, right Mike?