Oh now that's just uncalled forPablo Sanchez wrote:
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Oh now that's just uncalled forPablo Sanchez wrote:
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You are ugly.
#1: The Death Saurer and Stinger are from Zoids. *SMACK*Pablo Sanchez wrote:Jesus Motherfucking Christ, I can't believe I have to waste my time on this, particularly considering the outrageous hypocrisy present here. Read this from the first post, bitch. YB listed which series you could draw from for your sobbing, worthless attempts to disprove the tanks' total superiority:SAMAS wrote:Waitwaitwait. Sheppard says prove it, and when I respond with facts, it's dismissed as fanwank?
Now, I don't waste brain cells watching most of these shows, but it occurs to me from what I know of them that none of your bullshit jerkoff mecha appear in them. (yeah, not even the fucking devil gundam--that's G Gundam, fucknut.)1. Mobile Suit Gundam
2. Zone of Enders
3. Battletech
4. Imperial AT-AT's & AT-ST's
5. Zoids
6. Gasraki
So, your concession is accepted, bitch.
... out of hand, so I had to suppourt them. *SMACK* #3b: Threads mutate/change/get jacked. Deal with it. *SMACK*Depends on the Mecha used. Machines like Shin Getta Robo, the Ultimate Death Saurer, and the Devil Gundam can do it alone, with Zero casualties, while a bunch of Zakus would stand no chance.
Me Ugly? You so Ugly, your Mama had to tie a steak around your neck to get the dog to play with you!P.S.
You are ugly.
What? I didn't quite hear that...MKSheppard wrote:uhm...SAMAS wrote: The big-ass particle beam cannons of the Death Stinger and Saurer are no more WMDs than a Turbolaser is. Not to mention they have enough conventional weapons to do the job, too.
Sounds an awful like a WMD to me, fanwanker...if it walks, and quacksand could nuke entire cities in a single shot("What's the name of that city below? Not that it matters anymore..." *BOOM*) The Stinger also survived the Black Hole attack, albeit barely.
And the Devil Gundam can attack from HIGH Orbit, assimilating entire cities in minutes. Not to mention building it's own army.
Same here.......I fell asleep after you started posting mecha stats......zzzzzzzzzz.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.zzzzzzzzzzzzSAMAS wrote: Oh wait, forgot who I was talking to...
Actually Wong, I answered the original question in my first post. This is all Off-Topic stuff now.Darth Wong wrote:The problem with a debate like this is that it's supposed to be an army of tanks shooting their guns at an army of mechs which shoot their guns back.
Fan-whores like SAMAS will ignore this in their zeal to put down the "tankers". They will use the term "mech" as a loophole to include "any two or four-legged robot thing" and include one-of-a-kind super-monsters such as Colony Devil Gundam, which was a bizarro Borg-like creature that assimilated an entire fucking space colony and used WMD's. These are things which can take on armies of mechs themselves. Fuck, why doesn't he just use Unicron?
The fact is that he wants to AVOID the original scenario in its original spirit. He wants to do anything he can in order to jerk himself off over mech superiority. Goddamn, why don't we just describe the fucking Death Star as a huge "hover-tank" because it uses repulsorlift when it's near a planet and it has no legs? SAMAS loves to engage in this kind of fucking bullshit thread hijack, although he would never admit it.
I don't think you'll need much else past the Big 5(Jehuty, Anubis, Ardjet, Vic Viper, and Neith), but I don't know enough about the regular forces."]I don't know much about the Slammers, but from what I remember, they don't have much to worry about from anything before the Neo-Zeon war, except the larger Mobile Armors.Singuler Quartet wrote:A couple of GM snipers might be able to take them. 3 or 4 maybe, I don't remember the range of their BM rifles, though.The Yosemite Bear wrote:Ok, what is the minimum force nessarry of front line Mechs nessary to dislodge a single Company of Hammer's Slammers (Two Panzer (Heavy hover tanks), Two Recon Platoons(Combat Cars) & 1 Artillery Platoon)
Using froces from:
1. Mobile Suit Gundam
After Colony, Only the Serpents, Mobile Dolls, and Gundams, in acending order, have a chance.
G-Gundam would kick their asses for sport.
Gundam X would get real nasty once the Sattelite Cannons came into play.
Don't know, never played the game. Really should though.2. Zone of Enders
Not touching this one.A few hundred. Their weapons range, armor, and weapons are absolute shit. If you've ever seen some of the combat threads on SB, a flamewar/debate will start up on the subject.3. Battletech
Maybe.A bunch of AT-ATs might be able to tkae them, considering the armor on the bastards.4. Imperial AT-AT's & AT-ST's
If they use the nastier ones like the Death Stinger and Bezerk Fuhrer, maybe two to four. If we use the anime versions of the Death Saurer or Ultrasurus, just the one.Don't know. Just don't know.5. Zoids
From what little I've seen, more than they have. TA's and FAKES only used modern weaponry.NEver even heard of this one.6. Gasraki
Yes, part of your first post admitted that regular mechs would get creamed. So instead of simply leaving it there, you introduced a whole lot of off-topic bullshit in an attempt to hijack the thread. You even ADMIT it!SAMAS wrote:Actually Wong, I answered the original question in my first post. This is all Off-Topic stuff now.
Well there's so many Gundam series I'm going to take this to mean the original Mobile Suit Gundam.. in which case there isn't a mobile suit around that can take on the slammers. Don't know how many it'll take to dislodge save that it's a lot.1. Mobile Suit Gundam
That depends.. if a Metatron generator isn't nuclear based then the Slammers are utterly screwed as all it'll take is Jehuty or Anubis popping in over their position and self-destructing. If it is the mindflow systems we see on a couple of the Frames in Fist of Mars should be able to handle them no problem.2. Zone of Enders
A shitload. That is all.3. Battletech
They might not need all that many really, they've got some armor, but it depends on how well armored they are from the top.. if not too well then the Slammer's arty's going to tear them up pretty good. The AT-STs are really not going to last long though.4. Imperial AT-AT's & AT-ST's
Any unit of zoids with shields as good as a Blade Liger's. The Ultrasaurus, Death Stinger, Death Saurer, or Berserk Furher should each do fine on their own.5. Zoids
TAs and Fakes to my knowledge only have weapons a little more advanced than modern ones.. they get wiped out by tribarrels.6. Gasraki
I say that because the Zoids' capablities vary not only by their designs, but in modular armaments that can be added to them. The Saber Tiger, for instance, has at least five different weapons configurations. And also because to go through all the different Zoids would take too long.If they use the nastier ones like the Death Stinger and Bezerk Fuhrer, maybe two to four. If we use the anime versions of the Death Saurer or Ultrasurus, just the one.
The regular zoids will likely take larger numbers, depending on the Zoids used, and what weapons they carry.
Oh, I was unaware, because I don't debase myself by watching a TV show that makes Pokemon look like high art. It's also a good guess that you're exaggerating or believing ludicrous stats--like your "Liger can run at 400 kph, nevermind that such a rate would require 20 strides per second!"SAMAS wrote:#1: The Death Saurer and Stinger are from Zoids. *SMACK*
I guess I skimmed through that part of your useless post.#2: I handled all those higher up on the thread. *SMACK* I even gave the differences between the Gundam series as a bonus.
They do change. It is, however, internet etiquette not to dick around with extraneous debate for no fucking reason.#3a: Sheppard, in his charmingly ignorant way, dismissed an comment of mine, which was slightly off topic...(it was this by the way:
... out of hand, so I had to suppourt them. *SMACK* #3b: Threads mutate/change/get jacked. Deal with it. *SMACK*Depends on the Mecha used. Machines like Shin Getta Robo, the Ultimate Death Saurer, and the Devil Gundam can do it alone, with Zero casualties, while a bunch of Zakus would stand no chance.
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Ah. Sorry about that. I was going for something more like: "Several dozen Oberths, but maybe a few Defiants or Mirandas."Darth Wong wrote:EDIT: in one final attempt to explain the problem with your thinking, if somebody asks how many Fed starships it would take to accomplish something, you can't simply say "one, with Q on it." And if somebody asks how many SW Imperial ships it would take to accomplish something, you can't simply say "one: the Death Star". That's basically what you're doing.
Ack. I meant Akiras.SAMAS wrote:Ah. Sorry about that. I was going for something more like: "Several dozen Oberths, but maybe a few Defiants or Mirandas."Darth Wong wrote:EDIT: in one final attempt to explain the problem with your thinking, if somebody asks how many Fed starships it would take to accomplish something, you can't simply say "one, with Q on it." And if somebody asks how many SW Imperial ships it would take to accomplish something, you can't simply say "one: the Death Star". That's basically what you're doing.
Their armor is capable of resisting hits from 200mm powerguns withVejut wrote:Only one I can speak for is BT:
Depends on how powerful Hammer's Slammer's is.
Doesn't matter. BTech armament is limited to 2 km tops......if the SlammersVejut wrote:Again Shep, that means in joules or kgm/s^2?
A 200mm Powergun as employed by the Slammers is capable ofVejut wrote:No, it does matter.
Just because they can hit it doesn't mean they can kill it.