Posted: 2007-10-30 12:54am
Is Sri Lanka Drakan?The Duchess of Zeon wrote:No, not the 1934 map, that's the 1943 map, in the middle of the war, showing areas of occupation v. original borders.
Get your fill of sci-fi, science, and mockery of stupid ideas
http://stardestroyer.dyndns-home.com/
Is Sri Lanka Drakan?The Duchess of Zeon wrote:No, not the 1934 map, that's the 1943 map, in the middle of the war, showing areas of occupation v. original borders.
No, but Ceylon was in the original timelineAndrosphinx wrote:Is Sri Lanka Drakan?The Duchess of Zeon wrote:No, not the 1934 map, that's the 1943 map, in the middle of the war, showing areas of occupation v. original borders.
Ah. Yes. How did that happen? Both the original colonisation, and the fact that it hasn't been taken over by the British by 1943?No, but Ceylon was in the original timeline
Indeed, Shep, Skimmer, and I (with various help from others) hashed it out a while back, and came to the conclusion that there's absolutely no reason for Japan to go to war with the United States - the strategic opportunity that existed in OTL is completely nonexistent in the DFicverse. And nobody else has the casus belli or resources to declare war on Japan that's not already involved. It's really just a blood feast between the Taipings and Japan...Illuminatus Primus wrote:What happens to post-war Japan? I see the U.S. and the German Reich get most of Sub-Saharan Africa.
That makes sense within the timeframe with a war ruined Italy incorporating a slice of North Africa for a few decades with little military effort, even though the Drakans would undoubtly render old school colonialism into a more negative light in the public consciousness like the Nazis did, but did Britain manage to keep hold of it's pre-war imperial territory much longer than in OTL, alongside the territory it seized from the Drakians during WWII?Norseman wrote: Hurm? Several of the African states didn't gain independence before well into the 1960s.
That would according to the nature of certain serf populations - the most dangerous serfs to the Drakans would be in the recently conquered territories, with many of them POWs, but maybe the more tamed serfs deeper within the Police Zone would be docile after being freed and the ex-Drakans would be intergrated into the ex-serf population more easily - I am certain that slavery would be declared totally illegal and all the Directorates would be declared criminal organizations.The only way it would turn to post-Saddam Iraq is if the Draka are left in place at the same time as the serfs are freed, at that point the Serfs will start hunting them down to kill them.
I mean look at what happened to the Sudeten Germans? Or Konigsburg!
Simply deporting the Draka and then taking over the existing infra-structure would work fine; the population is disarmed, unfamiliar with violence, and there is in the main no remaining tribal allegiances.
The Soviets are intelligent. They got to create the Soviet Republic of Bulgaria, the Soviet Republic of Kurdistan, the Soviet Republic of Turkey, and the Soviet Republic of Arabia. All integral parts of the USSR. The other powers just got mandates. In addition they were able to arrange treaties of friendship and cooperation with the nominally independent Dutch Gold Coast (which was only occupied by the Draka in 1942 and may never be occupied by the Draka in the revisions--we're debating if they'd do it or not), and the two small states down in what would be South Africa created for Jews and Gypsies by Goering and Antonescu, promptly failed, and ended up heavily inhabited by Indian immigrants and aligned with the USSR. So the USSR has four new component states and three puppet states, not a bad deal at all. Within the remaining Drakian republic they also have an awesome amount of power, owning most of the industry and controlling six Sovereign Base Zones equivalent to those Britain has in Cyprus today. They also have five Sovereign Base Ports, one in Somalia, one in southern Tanzania, one in west Africa, one on the central African coast, and what would be Walvis Bay in our timeline, which extend considerable worldwide operational abilities to the Soviet Navy when combined with their permanent possession of the Syrian coastline as a fundamental part of their State. They also get total control of all the northern Iranian oil fields and all the oil and gas fields of the Caspian Sea, and ownership and total control of the Mosul oil fields in Iraq (the northern two-thirds of which are part of the Kurdistan SSR and Arabia SSR, and the southern third, part of the reconstituted Iranian state).Zor wrote:Personally, i am suprised the Soviets did not occupy a big chunk of Africa.
Zor
In that case you need to work out whether or not the USA will be have the same ideological bent toward Christian-Socialist Taiping China as they historically had towards Warlord-Guomindang China. That is, will the USA in DF timeline take a hard line against Japanese expansionism in China to the point of economic embargo, and how will Taiping-Soviet ties affect the military and diplomatic situation in general?KlavoHunter wrote:Indeed, Shep, Skimmer, and I (with various help from others) hashed it out a while back, and came to the conclusion that there's absolutely no reason for Japan to go to war with the United States - the strategic opportunity that existed in OTL is completely nonexistent in the DFicverse.
They don't need to cut the TSR to stop the flow of material to the Taipings. They cut the Taipings' railway at Lanzhou, which was the primary route which all Soviet heavy equipment was coming through from. The only route which the USSR can send material assistance from after that was via air shipment.Pelranius wrote:Would the Japanese be foolhardy enough to try to mount air raids on Soviet transportation infrastructure in Siberia? It certainly wouldn't accomplish anything other than possibly drawing in latter Soviet retaliation, but the Japanese generals might be delusional enough to think that bombing the Trans Siberian Railways while the Soviets are busy elsewhere can somehow stop the flow of war materials to the Taipings. They certainly that crazy in OTL.
Jews were given privileged positions in French Algeria, on the basis that they were more westernized and civilized than the locals, even if Jews.AbyssalDaemon wrote:Question, in the timeline you have the Draka waiting until they decided to enslave the Christians in their territory to make the Jewish population also into slaves as well but why? The Christian one made since the Pope intervened but given how strong anti-Jewish sentiment was back then in Europe I don't see that many protesting the enslavement of the Jews.
Lanzhou is too far inland to be overrun on land. The tracks and marshalling yards will no doubt be bombed heavily by the Japanese, but the only way to totally close down a railway for any length of time is knocking out major bridges and tunnels, not an easy thing to do. Even then the Chinese have such tremendous manpower on hand that they could institute ferries and road portages around any breaks while they are repaired, keeping at least vital supplies moving. Heavy equipment would be much harder to move that way, but the Chinese need machine gun ammo more then they do tanks overall.KlavoHunter wrote: They don't need to cut the TSR to stop the flow of material to the Taipings. They cut the Taipings' railway at Lanzhou, which was the primary route which all Soviet heavy equipment was coming through from. The only route which the USSR can send material assistance from after that was via air shipment.
I'm just reading what I read from Marina's story.Sea Skimmer wrote:Lanzhou is too far inland to be overrun on land. <snip>
Just to be certain, I thought Mongolia sided with Japan in this TL?The Japanese most certainly will not attack Soviet railways, and they’d probably refrain even from bombing too deeply into Mongolia, if only because Soviet fighters are likely to oppose such raids and the losses aren’t worth it.