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All I have to say is... Invisible Hand.
Dooku's tower was originally for sensors, but he's talking about the bridge itself - the little pod stuck unto the top-front of the ship, outside the armour and exposed to enemy fire from at least four sides.DeTejas wrote:All I have to say is... Invisible Hand.
i thought the top pod was sensors/where dooku stayed. (just as stupid having your living quarters in the most visible portion of the ship though) Unless you mean the pod on the bottom was the bridge, which it might very well be.
Coiler wrote:[
The Executor's loss would speak otherwise.
There were backup bridges on Executor. The loss of Battle Meditation and other factors of battle meant that they could not transfer power to the backup bridge(s?) quickly enought and Executor crashed and burned into DSIIStraha wrote:l. And when your flagship can be disabled by a errant starfighter this is a very bad design. Especially if your fleet is going to be deploying in gravity wells.
There may be an entrenched aristocracy at work. One of the interesting anecdotes about the development of the USS Monitor was that a lot of the crew were quite unhappy about the fact that the officers were situated down in the belly of the ship alongside the men, and could see them from their station. They preferred the traditional arrangement where the officers' area of the ship was quite far removed from the area where the men worked and slept. Officers were from an entirely different world than enlisted men, and were treated accordingly. Mixing them together was seen as improper, from both sides of the divide.Shroom Man 777 wrote:Maybe it's an honor thing? Separating the bridge from the main body means that even if the ship is incapacitated with the weapons, engines, reactors and shield generators in the main hull savaged and half it's crew dead, the captain is still relatively unhurt inside his bridge tower and can still surrender and be captured?
So the boarding party or mutineer cuts all control lines on one of the dozens of decks below the bridge they control. Not that a CIC deep inside the ship can't be properly defended, either.Old Peculier wrote:It might be a security matter. All the command and control stations are separated by turbolifts from the rest of the ship to stop mutiny. Also makes a good choke point for defending from boarding parties.
From what I remember from the ICS, Star Wars data cables are rather hefty things and not easily accessible. Cutting these would probably attract a lot of attention. More importantly, they may be able to cut off control lines, but a even a large mutiny would be hard pressed to commandeer the ship without access to the bridge, which would hopefully be full of more loyal offices.Bounty wrote:So the boarding party or mutineer cuts all control lines on one of the dozens of decks below the bridge they control.
True, but if the bridge is going to be separated from the rest of the ship due to security reasons, and the "entrenched aristocracy", then it might as well be separated by a neck-like tower.Bounty wrote:Not that a CIC deep inside the ship can't be properly defended, either.
And there's the fact that aristocratic dicks like Moffs (man that's a silly title) probably don't even want to breathe the same air as those clones and droids that comprise their crews.Darth Wong wrote:The bridge tower on a typical Republic or Imperial vessel serves to situate the officers far above the rest of the crew, in a majestic-looking tower. This might be part of the social order of things in their society.
Why? It's not like "Count" and "Duke" are any better, at least "Moff" doesn't mean something other than the title.Shroom Man 777 wrote:Moffs (man that's a silly title)
You just know that the underlings call him Grand Muff Tarkin behind his back...Adrian Laguna wrote:Why? It's not like "Count" and "Duke" are any better, at least "Moff" doesn't mean something other than the title.Shroom Man 777 wrote:Moffs (man that's a silly title)
Emphasis mine, but I'm wondering what sort of air those droids are breathing....Shroom Man 777 wrote: And there's the fact that aristocratic dicks like Moffs (man that's a silly title) probably don't even want to breathe the same air as those clones and droids that comprise their crews.
Perhaps some of them are air-cooled?Dark Flame wrote:Emphasis mine, but I'm wondering what sort of air those droids are breathing....Shroom Man 777 wrote: And there's the fact that aristocratic dicks like Moffs (man that's a silly title) probably don't even want to breathe the same air as those clones and droids that comprise their crews.
So because the designers of BF2 decided they needed a place for players to easily shoot at, that must be where Mon Cal bridges canonically are?Some of them. It's painfully hard to see, and I didn't even notice them until I played Battlefront 2. They're big enough for the bridge itself and a turbolift up to it, and that's about it.
Something about basic physics strikes you as absurd or laughable? Air-cooling is quite real, and necessary for many mechanisms. In vacuum, the only means of cooling is radiative transfer, which is far less effective than radiative+convective transfer.Balrog wrote:Perhaps some of them are air-cooled?Dark Flame wrote:Emphasis mine, but I'm wondering what sort of air those droids are breathing....Shroom Man 777 wrote:And there's the fact that aristocratic dicks like Moffs (man that's a silly title) probably don't even want to breathe the same air as those clones and droids that comprise their crews.
I think the Home One type ships also have elevated bridges, since you get to bomb them in Battlefront II.BountyHunterSAx wrote:"Bounty Hunter's, we don't need their SCUM." -Moff Tarkin
Yes, it makes a lot of sense that the elevated bridge towers - prevalent in Imperial design and absent (to my knowledge) in Home One - exist as a means of elevating the 'commanders' over the proletariat.
-AHMAD
What? No, that was not my intent.Darth Wong wrote:Something about basic physics strikes you as absurd or laughable?Balrog wrote:Perhaps some of them are air-cooled?Dark Flame wrote: Emphasis mine, but I'm wondering what sort of air those droids are breathing....
Not all the weapons that could smash the Bridge are GT level. Granted, the bowels of the ship (or just the center of the tower) might not be much safer from heavy turbolasers, but it would be safer from the guns carried on Starfighters.Knife wrote: How so? The Executor was lost after a coordinated attack by the rebel fleet brought her shields down, then the fighter to the bridge. Really with GT firepower, after the shields are down, where would be a safe place to have the bridge? Even down in the bowls of the ship, GT firepower would obliterate it.
Just that there are other officers that can take over if the captain's killed, doesn't mean you should risk the Captain if you don't need to.Knife wrote: Whew, you're right. Now if only star wars would have concieved of something like a rank system for their military, there could have been other officers in other command nodes....oh wait.
The designers of BF2 did not decide they needed a place for players to easily shoot at. Instead, they payed attention during the movie.Lazarus wrote:So because the designers of BF2 decided they needed a place for players to easily shoot at, that must be where Mon Cal bridges canonically are?Some of them. It's painfully hard to see, and I didn't even notice them until I played Battlefront 2. They're big enough for the bridge itself and a turbolift up to it, and that's about it.
Well, if a droideka rolled in water in BF1, its hitpoints decreases. So I guess if it holds its breath too long, it drownsDark Flame wrote:Emphasis mine, but I'm wondering what sort of air those droids are breathing....
