On a tangent
Has anyone thought that the Borg might have started out as a networked Transhumanist society. The Queen would then have been some super evil person who cut herself off, developed a tapeworm and then replugged into the network. The Queen would have to have some kind of Skynet supercomputer backing her up so that she could slave all the Borg brains to that machine, makig her personality the expression of the entity of a desentientized Borg populace who are all now controlled from the supercomputer.
The Unimatrix may have started out as a one of the big brains of the network and later on the Borg through the will of the Queen developed thetechnology to have her free floating amongst their vast domain with backup locations. Ultimately the Queen could survive if all other locations were destroyed so long as two drones survived, each successive incarnation losing abilities.
This centralized personality might have eventually become bogged down or corrupted (stupified?) accounting for the decline in performance seen. It may account for why the Vaadwar were unimpressed with the Borg in their time as well.
EDIT: Very bad spelling, probably more to come.
Re-Imagining the Borg
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In "Dark Frontier", the Queen identifies herself as a member of Species 125. This seems to throw doubt on your theory, as a single-species origin for the Borg is sugested by their implied designation 'Species 001', and seems more likley then a voluntary multi-species one.Jeremy wrote:On a tangent
Has anyone thought that the Borg might have started out as a networked Transhumanist society. The Queen would then have been some super evil person who cut herself off, developed a tapeworm and then replugged into the network. The Queen would have to have some kind of Skynet supercomputer backing her up so that she could slave all the Borg brains to that machine, makig her personality the expression of the entity of a desentientized Borg populace who are all now controlled from the supercomputer.
The Unimatrix may have started out as a one of the big brains of the network and later on the Borg through the will of the Queen developed thetechnology to have her free floating amongst their vast domain with backup locations. Ultimately the Queen could survive if all other locations were destroyed so long as two drones survived, each successive incarnation losing abilities.
This centralized personality might have eventually become bogged down or corrupted (stupified?) accounting for the decline in performance seen. It may account for why the Vaadwar were unimpressed with the Borg in their time as well.
EDIT: Very bad spelling, probably more to come.
Of course, this is all just tenuous speculation, at best, and the idea of a transhuman Federation analoge transforming into the Borg does fit with the theme of the Federation being proto-Borg themselves, as has been sugested around here. If we were talking about a different show, like Babylon 5, for example, where 'themes' are more then "Dur... That looks purty", this might even be a valid view out-of-universe. However, not only is this Trek we are discussing, but much of our information about the Borg comes from Voyager, of all shows.
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It seems pointless to me to pretend that you can construct a consistent theory of Borg behaviour and culture from both TNG and VOY when later Borg writing was so inconsistent with the earlier material. At best, you have to decide which precedents to ignore or marginalize.
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"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
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