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into punk AND Hippie...cutecuddlybuny wrote:I'm sorta into a lot of punk and hippie musiq right now so my favourites would have to be:
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Well, bringing up children 8 years of age when discussing your own musical preference doesn't make any sense to me, but ok.Hyperion wrote:No, I was NOT addressing that age level, I was simply giving the reason I rather strongly dislike jazz.
Yes, jazz is extremely complex. Perhaps your exposure to jazz has been out of the oridinary, since most big band/blues groups/combos don't have any cellos. Just being able to play the instruments takes skill, but if you knew how much music theory, how many chords, scales, modes, and transpositions one needs to know to solo even only for 20 seconds, you would know the basic level of how complicated it is. Trying actually being the one to solo, and you get a better idea.Complex? Someone honking away on a sax with trombones and a cello in the background is NOT complex. (to me at least, though I do know that to play such instruments takes tremendous skill)
Interesting school. How old were you when this was going on? This went on during academic classes? That's a shitty teacher right there, since obviously kids have different learning styles and some can't concentrate at all with any kind of music playing.Teacher had the radio on at all times, you would get detention if you touched it (heaven forbid you change the station), and if you asked him to change it cause it was driving you nuts he'd just put in a tape of jazz or blues, all that did was make the sound quality a wee bit better.
What does he listen to?Well that stuff I had to endure for 2 years sure sounds awfully similar to the junk my dad listens to in his hobby room, and that's considered "good" jazz...
Out of curiousity, how old are you?Needless to say this is one of the key reasons why no matter how hard he tries to get me to join in with his hobby (which is rather interesting, O-scale model trains) I won't.
Um....what?(that, politics, and religion, and the periodic bashing fest based on sexuality).
Or because people like your dad aren't trying to make you like it?Yeah there's a reason I'd have to choose between Metallica and jazz, Metallica is actually pleasant to listen to.
Right. How long did this kid sing 'Old MacDonald' to you again?It is meant to be a representation as to how I respond to having sounds shoved down my throat and not being able to do a damn thing about the source. Remember that things that happen early in life can affect you for your whole life, and your responces to certain stimulus when you're young are a good way to predict your responces to the same/similar stimuli when you're older.
Right, but you said it was all slow. I'm glad you like Beethoven, since he and his music were rather remarkable, even if you must listen to the cheapened dance mix version which happens to make my skin crawl. I'm not a classical music snob because I listen to techno/hard rock (hell, I was in the mosh pit at a Metallica concert one year)/jazz/folk/alternative/etc. To me, the techno versions of classical music are the dumbed-down versions, for people who refuse to go out of their way for actual culture.Some Beethoven is actually decent, when set to techno/rave music. Otherwise even if it's fast and complex, it tends to lack certain things that make music enjoyable to me, things I actually have yet to figure out...
IT'S NOT ALL SLOW!! Man, I hate generalizations. How accurate would it be for me to say that all Metallica songs are loud, thrashy, screaming rock songs with no musical quality whatsoever? Is that the case? No, some songs like "Mama Said," "Low Man's Lyric," or "Nothing Else Matters" disprove that, right?1) It's slow as hell and boring, I don't care how complex it is.
Dude, I'm sorry if this is coming across harshly, but you tried to completely obliterate one of my favourite types of music, of which I have worked VERY hard at which to become proficient, and you did it in a way which was barely intelligible with justifications such as 'seconds graders don't even like that shit.' WTF?! If you're going to put yourself out there with reasons such as that and then make generalizations that are clearly incorrect (such as that all classical music is slow), I in turn am going to generalize about you.2) Thanks for the complement on my intellegence, but you could have done that without a smashing attack.
This is unclear. What don't you dispute? The "old style" instruments (I assume you mean violins, violas, cellos and the like?) in your techno music don't save it from sounding like shit, but it's better, I suppose, than not having any real instruments in there at all.3) I do not dispute that, though classical tends to sound far better to me than jazz/blues, and sounds even better set to modern music as long as the old style instuments are retained in the remix, otherwise the remixes sound like shit (see the "bad techno" category).
*deep breath* It. Is. Not. All. Slow.4) Puts me to sleep because of the lack of speed,
Dynamics? Yes, real music does have those. See, those musicians actually have excellent control over their instruments and can play them in ways other than just at RFL ('really fucking loud--it's a technical term used in the music world).and a lot of classical tends to have "volume drops",
I see. That is unfortunate.which due to my hearing issues cause me to need to concentrate much harder than I should have to, which in turn makes me fall asleep.
How much have you heard? Because, frankly, there are quite a lot of classical pieces out there that wouldn't ever be classified as 'slow.' I spent five years in college studying music theory and music history (among many other music classes), and I have heard hundreds and hundreds of pieces of music. If you don't know any fast ones, you obviously didn't look very hard because they're everywhere.I would not be talking like this unless I had heard a hell of a lot more than 2 pieces of a given type of music.
Dude, you can't profess the speed of your brilliant mind and how it's so fast that things bore you oh-so-easily in one paragraph, and then say something about how listening to complicated stuff overworks said brain in the next one. I'm sorry.I don't care how fast it runs, it's VERY easy to overtax any kind of processing system, especially with external inputs, specifically incompatable inputs.
So, you like loud sounds that drown out all the other things your sensitive ears pick up? That to me makes sense. It explains things.On another note, one which may help clear this up slightly. I do have rather fucked up hearing, and that's to put it nicely and mildly. To start with is the hearing range, I've been tested (I can prove this actually) to have a hearing range approximately from 12Hz to 64.7kHz, normal human hearing range is considered to be from 20Hz to 20/22kHz (depends on the source). Yes that means I can and do hear dogwhistles...
Zaia, I hope this sheds some light on my taste in music.
Do you have Queen's Highlander soundtrack? I like it much better than Flash Gordon, particularly Princes of the Universe and Who Wants to Live Forever?. That's actually the only soundtrack I've ever gone out and gotten (though I'm a Queen freak anyway...have pretty much everything except Flash and their original albumSimon H.Johansen wrote: And as a side note, I also listen to film soundtracks of all kinds - from Queen's delightfully silly music for Flash Gordon <snip>.
).*grin* Well, technically, I play them all! I have to, since I'm a music teacher. As for the ones I play professionally (I do gigs from time to time--now I'm performing with a local theater doing 'West Side Story'), I mostly play classical percussion & piano, although I have done a couple gigs on bari sax (jazz) and trombone. And I played oboe for about 8 years. And I sing too, and play the guitar but not very well.Captain Kruger wrote:Zaia, what instruments to you play? I always love touching base with fellow musicians.
No No No no no...it's more likeWicked Pilot wrote:Nirvana
What else can I say, everyone else is gay.
Oh for the love of your prefered mythical deity.......why? Is it a crime to be successful and make some money......HemlockGrey wrote:System of a Down(SELLOUTS!)
I said the same of Metallica when they produced the black album, but then I was a fairly young man then and really only into speed metal. Bands "sell-out", because their purpose is to make money, which is done by broadening their fan base (as did Metallica with their release of the black album).Sokar wrote:Oh for the love of your prefered mythical deity.......why? Is it a crime to be successful and make some money......HemlockGrey wrote:System of a Down(SELLOUTS!)
This is why I quit listening to punk, I got tired of the poser attitudes of 'my band is more underground than your band' bullshit that permeates the entire punk scene. What are we now going to start this shit with rock and thrash bands ? I guess not everyone can be 'Fugazi' and martyr themselves for their musc......