What part will Dooku play in Ep3?

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SPOOFE wrote:It's the end of the movie. Anakin's been mortally wounded. He's turned to the Dark Side. He's been rescued by Palpatine/Sidious's forces. He's been treated for his wounds, his damaged lungs/organs/whatever replaced with synthetics. He's revived by the doctors, who inform him of his predicament. They hand him his Vader mask. We see a dark-gloved hand take it. Then, in pure, pitch darkness, we hear the mask snap into place.

A moment later, we hear, for the first time, Darth Vader drawing his first breath.

Roll credits. No fanfare. No music. Just Vader's breathing.
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After a ground battle Dooku escapes getting Padme. Anakin follows him on an Acclamator despite what Yoda and Obi van tell him. The desperate Anakin tries to follow Dooku through hyperspace with an extremely risky maneuver. The two ship collide and immediatley leave the hyperspace in the Dagobah system. Dooku leaves his ship with Padme in an escape pod before it is exploding. He manages to land on Dagobah safely and the pod just start to dive. Anakin arrives and attack Dooku imediately. And of course loose. Looses his sword maybe with his mechanical hand but not the left one. Dooku start to torture Padme and prepares to kill her. Anakin yield his anger and starts force ligthings to the comletely surprised Dooku and kills him. (Then a scene showing how the force turbulence abrorbing into the surrounding vegetation.) Anakin gets totally frightened of himself and run not to Obi but Palpatine forguidance. Palpatine still hiding his true identity tells him that he can use his anger (the dark side) as long as he uses it for good ...

Of course it is just a wild fiction ...
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Why would Anakin be on what is basically a troop transport? We wanna see Dreadnaughts and Victory Star Destroyers.

There are many things we want to see in EpIII i doubt we'll all get out way. But one thing is sure Lucas better take note of some of the things we are saying. A franchise like SW is based on the sufferance of the fans and if he pulls another Jar Jar on us then a lot of that fanbase will disappear. I hope some guy from Lucasarts is actually reading this.
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You mean LucasFilm.

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Darth Pounder wrote:Why would Anakin be on what is basically a troop transport? We wanna see Dreadnaughts and Victory Star Destroyers.
I wrote Acclamator because it is already canon and can withstand a collision. Personally I am not interested whether there will be Victorys or just some kind of carriers filled with clone piloted early Ties when it become clear that the Acclamators are vulnerable to the newest starfighters (Y- wings).
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Dooku might get dumped by Sidious in favor of Anakin and he might end up on Dagobah. I think that it is Dooku that Yoda kills when he goes into hiding on Dagobah. I think that the it is the perfect way to kill off Dooku especially since, in the EU, we know Yoda fought a Dark Jedi on Dagobah.
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Boba Fett wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:will anakin fight dooku before or after he chooses a new suit?
Of course before!!!

Think about it...

Now Dooku is the sith apprentice and there's always one apprentice.
Probably Anakin will let his anger free which will help him to defeat Dooku so he'll turn to the dark side.

...and I'd bet on it that Mace will be fried by Palpy in a very-very dramatic action scene!!! ("...so be it, Jedi!") :twisted:
I think Boba Fett will kill Mace Windu to avenge is father`s death.
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Montcalm wrote:
I think Boba Fett will kill Mace Windu to avenge is father`s death.
NO NO NO. Unggggggggggh. That's all I can say.

JEDI MASTER Mace Windu getting killed by a 13 year old kid is the very definition of going out like a punk. Samuel L Jackson has already said he won't be going out like a punk.

It's an incredibly awful idea. With any luck, we won't see Boba at all.
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Montcalm wrote:
I think Boba Fett will kill Mace Windu to avenge is father`s death.
NO NO NO. Unggggggggggh. That's all I can say.

JEDI MASTER Mace Windu getting killed by a 13 year old kid is the very definition of going out like a punk. Samuel L Jackson has already said he won't be going out like a punk.

It's an incredibly awful idea. With any luck, we won't see Boba at all.
By the time it will Boba Fett will be an adult
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By the time it will Boba Fett will be an adult
No he won't. He'll be in his early teens. Only 3-5 years pass between Episode II and III. This is official starwars.com information.
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SPOOFE wrote:
Roll credits. No fanfare. No music. Just Vader's breathing.
No Imperial March (aka Darth Vader's Theme, I remind you) in the end credits? Surely you jest.
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TrekWarsie wrote:Dooku might get dumped by Sidious in favor of Anakin and he might end up on Dagobah. I think that it is Dooku that Yoda kills when he goes into hiding on Dagobah. I think that the it is the perfect way to kill off Dooku especially since, in the EU, we know Yoda fought a Dark Jedi on Dagobah.
The Dark Jedi that was defeated by Yoda on Dagobah was part of the Dark Jedi uprising on Bpfassh.

The uprising on Bpfassh occured about 75 years before the events of Episode III, while the Lost Twenty separated from the Jedi Order shortly before the events of Episode I. Your theory is totally false, based on a lack of knowledge, and frankly smells like a wank-wish.

Montcalm: Wank, wank, wank.

NO. That's a retarded idea.
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I'd like to see Mace and Dooku fight it out. Whoever dies, that'd be quality watching.
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TrekWarsie wrote:Dooku might get dumped by Sidious in favor of Anakin and he might end up on Dagobah. I think that it is Dooku that Yoda kills when he goes into hiding on Dagobah. I think that the it is the perfect way to kill off Dooku especially since, in the EU, we know Yoda fought a Dark Jedi on Dagobah.
I cannot see Palpatine tolerating Dooku for long, he is too smart and ambiious, a future threat to Palpy. Vader is easier to manipulate.
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Yoda has to take out Dooku. It'd follow the pattern Lucas seems determined to follow.
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Darth Pounder wrote:Yoda has to take out Dooku. It'd follow the pattern Lucas seems determined to follow.
What pattern would that be?
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Darth Pounder wrote:Yoda has to take out Dooku. It'd follow the pattern Lucas seems determined to follow.
Actually, if Anakin kills Dooku, it would serve as a link to the OT (specifically ROTJ):

EMPEROR: Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey toward the Dark Side will be complete.

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EMPEROR: Good! Your hate has made you powerful. Now, fulfill your destiny and take your father's place at my side!
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I was thinking in the round about way that every body seems to get a re-match. Luke fought vader twice, Anakin/Vader will fight Obi-Wan twice, Qui-Gon fought Maul twice. Maybe i'm thinking about this too much. :?
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Of course...you know GL could just royally fuck up the EU and do as he pleases in this movie. For instance he can give another reason why Yoda is invisble on Dagobah or have Anakin injured in a fight with Dooku and not Obi Wan. There's alot of possibilities that he can do as he pleases and I wonder where that will put the EU in terms of true canoncity.

I would not be surprised is all I'm saying.
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Darth Pounder wrote:I was thinking in the round about way that every body seems to get a re-match. Luke fought vader twice, Anakin/Vader will fight Obi-Wan twice, Qui-Gon fought Maul twice. Maybe i'm thinking about this too much. :?
Any rematch between Yoda and Dooku would end with Dooku shiskabobs. However, Anakin and Obi-wan should get a re-match too, right?

In most of the other re-matches, the other guy won the second time around. Luke loses to Vader and then beats him. Anakin loses to Obi-wan (at least thats whats supposed to happen in Ep3) and then Obi-wan throws the fight in ANH. I guess you could say that Qui-gon won the first match with Maul since he got away with the queen alive.

I really don't see a Yoda-Dooku re-match fitting in any kind of pattern.
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Hate to burst your bubble Spoofe, but I guess you missed the thread about Vader's 5 mins of dialogue provided by James Earl Jones.
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Dooku interests me and I'm torn between a couple of possible scenarios for this character:

1. Would like to see him confront Yoda again. Hell, Yoda trained the guy and in part screwed up--let the little green guy 'fix' his mistake. Dooku pursuing Yoda at the bequest of Sidious (who fears Yoda as the only Jedi left who possesses the power to defeat him) and having a last titanic battle on Dagobah would be fine. Of course Yoda wins, but it so drains him that he no longer poses a threat...winds up ignored thereafter or even presumed dead. Sidious turns to Anakin to replace Dooku. In this version, Dooku's the up-front loyal apprentice to the end. Focus is on Yoda's determination to correct his failure.

2. Dooku turns on his master, while Sidious is in Palpatine mode, and Anakin races to the rescue. Mace Windu also jumps in to protect Palpatine at the cost of his life, but weakens Dooku enough that Anakin is able to finish him off. Anakin does not believe what Dooku was raving about as he dies...some nonsense about the Supreme Chancellor being a secret Sith. Windu might hear it too, only he dies believing it because 'Palpatine' reveals himself (in a subtle way) just before the end. A sad last image for Windu to take with him. Focus here is on a heroic albeit ironic death for Windu and lotsa cool lightsaber action between Windu/Dooku before Anakin takes his revenge.

Either way, Dooku croaks and Anakin still gets to have his big show-down with Obi-Wan. Unless he goes the weapons inspector route. In this very special version, created just for those of us who can't get enough of Geonosis, Anakin actually receives his terrible life-threatening injuries while inspecting supposed service drones on the construction line in a rebuilt Geonosian factory, and Poggle the Lesser trips and accidently knocks him into a vat of molten ore... :P
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Darth Servo wrote:
Darth Pounder wrote:I was thinking in the round about way that every body seems to get a re-match. Luke fought vader twice, Anakin/Vader will fight Obi-Wan twice, Qui-Gon fought Maul twice. Maybe i'm thinking about this too much. :?
Any rematch between Yoda and Dooku would end with Dooku shiskabobs. However, Anakin and Obi-wan should get a re-match too, right?

In most of the other re-matches, the other guy won the second time around. Luke loses to Vader and then beats him. Anakin loses to Obi-wan (at least thats whats supposed to happen in Ep3) and then Obi-wan throws the fight in ANH. I guess you could say that Qui-gon won the first match with Maul since he got away with the queen alive.

I really don't see a Yoda-Dooku re-match fitting in any kind of pattern.
Vader and Obi DID get a rematch in episode 4. 8)

I was expecting Dooku to be the dark jedi killed on Dagobah, but since there's already an EU expanation for the cave I guess the duel with Anakin part way through the movie is more likely. Plus dumping the old pupil for the new one seems to fit Palpatine's MO pretty well.

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I would really like to see Sidious whip out HIS lightsabre and duel with Mace Windu. He'll die a dramatic death this way.

Dooku would be killed by Sidious, since he shall see the potential Anakin has. Sidious would cloud Anakin's mind with more Dark Side is Better thoughts, and slowly bring him to the Dark Side. Being someone who wants to be the most powerful Jedi in the world, I'm very sure he would resort to the Dark Side to satisfy his power-hunger.
Palpatine would continue praising Anakin, will go on telling him how great he is, and maybe even suggest to him to prove his worth to Obi-Wan by duelling with him. He'll reveal his true identity in front of Anakin, and use the Dark Side to influence Anakin, just like it had to Luke in one of the EU media. Anakin resisted, but failed and fell deeper into the Dark Side.

And we'll finally get to the molten pit. How he'll survive that is beyond me. Really, I don't understand this part. How can someone falling into a lava or molten pit survive?

I really hope Lucas would show Sidious and Mace have a duel. But I doubt this would happen, since making Sidious that active and powerful NOW might ruin the end of the movie. But if mirroring the OT was true, it would really be appropriate after all, since the end of the PT and the end of the OT would both have the Emperor unleashing his Dark Side powers.
IF palpatine = sidious, of course.

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You know, maybe the movie will end with Anakin simply falling into the pit.... and we're left to speculate what happens.

Then roll the "breathing" over the credits.

That'd be an interesting way to do it, then the next time we see him, its in ANH on the blockade runner... somehow he survived.

If this were any other movie but star wars, it'd show him falling in slow motion and after the credits would be a short clip showing a closeup of a hand thrusting painfully out of the molten pool while ominious music played.


Buuuuuut, as others have pointed out, we have five mins of JEJ dialouge, so probably not.

Dooku dying on Dagobah and becoming the "dark cave" shadow could very well prove to be true. Who cares if there's already some EU explanation, that hasn't stopped GL from violating it before. So anything is possible...
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