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Posted: 2003-02-13 08:27am
by Einhander Sn0m4n
LordChaos wrote:Darth Wong wrote:
When I was in school, we used to call it "murderball". I can only imagine what these hyper-sensitive parents would think of that.
Reminds me of a game we called simply "deaht"... (main rule : try not to do anything perminent to the other players).
W00t. Anything that's called "Murderball" has to be phun. I still can't get over the fact that dodge ball ever got banned. Or this fucking insane shit about the word "gun" banned. Ahh if only I was a real Black Mage, I'd Hadoken the asshat fucktards for thinking of doing such a lowlife-stupid thing...
Posted: 2003-02-13 08:27am
by Solid Snake
NF_Utvol wrote:Grr, Politically Correct Idiots....
I hear that they are now taking the word 'War' out of most history books and referring to it as 'Conflict'.
Wonder how long it will take for complete revisionist history to take over.
Ooo! How long till the Ministry of Truth and memory holes?
I remember in 7th grade where a kid almost got expelled because his keychain was an AK-47. Or was he expelled? I dont remember.
That was right after the first school shooting in Jonesboro, Arkansas
Posted: 2003-02-13 08:32am
by Lagmonster
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:I still can't get over the fact that dodge ball ever got banned.
It DID? Jeez. When I was in elementary school, we didn't have cigarettes or booze or kids with guns to establish our aggressive macho behaviour, and we didn't play soccer or baseball or football.
We played Dodge Ball. That's right. We all lined up in the snow and hurled basketballs at each other's heads at near-supersonic speeds. And you didn't DARE dodge, because all the girls were watching and, it turned out, carefully planning who they were going to sleep with when they turned 16.
Posted: 2003-02-13 08:35am
by Montcalm
Lagmonster wrote:We played Dodge Ball. That's right. We all lined up in the snow and hurled basketballs at each other's heads at near-supersonic speeds. And you didn't DARE dodge, because all the girls were watching and, it turned out, carefully planning who they were going to sleep with when they turned 16.
Do you remember girl you did after that
Posted: 2003-02-13 08:45am
by Einhander Sn0m4n
Lagmonster wrote:Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:I still can't get over the fact that dodge ball ever got banned.
It DID? Jeez. When I was in elementary school, we didn't have cigarettes or booze or kids with guns to establish our aggressive macho behaviour, and we didn't play soccer or baseball or football.
We played Dodge Ball. That's right. We all lined up in the snow and hurled basketballs at each other's heads at near-supersonic speeds. And you didn't DARE dodge, because all the girls were watching and, it turned out, carefully planning who they were going to sleep with when they turned 16.
Ahh I couldn't care less about the girls at all so I'd jink left and right. It's fun till you get railed in the head. Not because you get hit, but because ya gotta sit out. We had these small 5-inch-diameter balls that weighed a good 4-5 pounds too. They were soft, but if one hits you you're definitely gonna get knocked back a couple feet with the insane speeds some of the guys could spit 'em at you. Murder Ball is PHUN!!!!
Posted: 2003-02-13 09:55am
by SAMAS
Darth Wong wrote:Perinquus wrote:I recently read a book wherein the author asserted that these zero-tolerance policies were doing a lot more harm than good. The problem, he said, is that human beings have certain inherent traits, like aggressive feelings, and emotions like anger. These feelings were formerly allowed a constructive, or at least harmless outlet via competitive games in PE class, and games like "cops and robbers" or "Cowboys and Indians" during recess.
With the adoption of zero-tolerance, however, even the smallest and most innocuous expression of these feelings, such as, in some cases, merely drawing a picture of a soldier with a rifle, or bringing a little GI Joe figure to school, with it's tiny pistol in hand, have received draconian punishments. So now these agressive feelings, instead of being expressed in some healthy, harmless way, are bottled up and suppressed. Well, that's not healthy for human beings to do. The pressure builds and builds, until finally, it bursts forth in a very unhealthy exression of violence. This may, at least partly, be why shocking examples of school violence, including school shootings, seem to be getting more common, not less.
I think it's quite a stretch to blame those policies for school shootings. Bullying and overdoses of anti-depressant drugs tend to be implicated in most of those cases, and I'd consider that a much less tenuous link.
True, but I know that
I'd be a lot less likely to shoot someone if I had the opportunity to bean them in the head with a ball first.
Posted: 2003-02-13 10:58am
by Knife
Darth Wong wrote:Perinquus wrote:I recently read a book wherein the author asserted that these zero-tolerance policies were doing a lot more harm than good. The problem, he said, is that human beings have certain inherent traits, like aggressive feelings, and emotions like anger. These feelings were formerly allowed a constructive, or at least harmless outlet via competitive games in PE class, and games like "cops and robbers" or "Cowboys and Indians" during recess.
With the adoption of zero-tolerance, however, even the smallest and most innocuous expression of these feelings, such as, in some cases, merely drawing a picture of a soldier with a rifle, or bringing a little GI Joe figure to school, with it's tiny pistol in hand, have received draconian punishments. So now these agressive feelings, instead of being expressed in some healthy, harmless way, are bottled up and suppressed. Well, that's not healthy for human beings to do. The pressure builds and builds, until finally, it bursts forth in a very unhealthy exression of violence. This may, at least partly, be why shocking examples of school violence, including school shootings, seem to be getting more common, not less.
I think it's quite a stretch to blame those policies for school shootings. Bullying and overdoses of anti-depressant drugs tend to be implicated in most of those cases, and I'd consider that a much less tenuous link.
Actually, wouldn't it be the same mindset? The schood doesn't want to deal with the idea that some kids 'feel' inadaquate and they don't want to deal with the idea that some kids are not as 'good' as other kids in some area's and they sure as hell don't want to deal with serieous issues like 'guns' and the like so they just ban them.
Parents and gardians don't want to deal with children who
want to play instead of sit in a chair like a zombie and learn the dribble that passes as a curriculum, so they drug them. Doctors just want the $ from selling the drugs and boom, everyones happy.
Are not all of these just the quick easy answer that seems to be the sickening norm in the world today?
Posted: 2003-02-13 05:39pm
by Mark S
Darth Wong wrote:Knife wrote:There has been stories of kids not being able to play dodge ball because someone might get hit by the ball.
In case there are people who don't know what dodge ball is, your suppost to hit people with the ball.
When I was in school, we used to call it "murderball". I can only imagine what these hyper-sensitive parents would think of
that.
I remember Murderball when I was little. Though I think it's just an Ontario name because when I moved out of province it was always called Dodgeball.
I also remember huge snowpiles being called murder mountain. Point being basically to throw people off.
I remember a game we used to play at recess where you would bounce a tennis ball off of a wall and everyone else would try to catch it. If the person attempting the catch fumbled, he had to run and touch the wall before someone else got the ball, threw it, and hit the wall before they could get there. If the ball beat you, you had to stand facing the wall while the thrower did his best to peg you in the back.
Posted: 2003-02-13 05:41pm
by The Dark
Mark S wrote:I remember a game we used to play at recess where you would bounce a tennis ball off of a wall and everyone else would try to catch it. If the person attempting the catch fumbled, he had to run and touch the wall before someone else got the ball, threw it, and hit the wall before they could get there. If the ball beat you, you had to stand facing the wall while the thrower did his best to peg you in the back.
I remember that one, though not the name. I got a lot of bruises playing that game. I didn't have good hands until I started playing percussion. Which is ironic since I was the catcher on our baseball team.
Posted: 2003-02-13 05:44pm
by HemlockGrey
I thank God my school isn't one of those pussy districts that are popping like up daisies nowadays.
Posted: 2003-02-13 05:47pm
by Mark S
The Dark wrote:Mark S wrote:I remember a game we used to play at recess where you would bounce a tennis ball off of a wall and everyone else would try to catch it. If the person attempting the catch fumbled, he had to run and touch the wall before someone else got the ball, threw it, and hit the wall before they could get there. If the ball beat you, you had to stand facing the wall while the thrower did his best to peg you in the back.
I remember that one, though not the name. I got a lot of bruises playing that game. I didn't have good hands until I started playing percussion. Which is ironic since I was the catcher on our baseball team.
We used to call it 'Bums Up' (no jokes), if I remember correctly. That was in British Columbia.
Posted: 2003-02-13 05:58pm
by DPDarkPrimus
So now the poor kid got an 'F' on his drawing he was trying to make about world peace, which reads "Gonnes are bad. Say no to gonnes. Then the world will be paeceful."
At least, that's what I think should have happened. Would have been a good twist.
Posted: 2003-02-13 07:07pm
by Rob Wilson
Darth Wong wrote:Knife wrote:There has been stories of kids not being able to play dodge ball because someone might get hit by the ball.
In case there are people who don't know what dodge ball is, your suppost to hit people with the ball.
When I was in school, we used to call it "murderball". I can only imagine what these hyper-sensitive parents would think of
that.
In the British Army, murderball is a game where you damn near try to murder the person with the ball. It's a release valve for all the aggression, a game is only considered to have been good if a few people suffer broken arms and legs.
Posted: 2003-02-13 07:27pm
by Raptor 597
NF_Utvol wrote:Grr, Politically Correct Idiots....
I hear that they are now taking the word 'War' out of most history books and referring to it as 'Conflict'.
Wonder how long it will take for complete revisionist history to take over.
Actually, these days countries are too pussy too declare war uppon one another. Now they one destroy each other, but if anyone make a Declaration of War you're a bad, bad asshole.
Posted: 2003-02-13 07:30pm
by aerius
Mark S wrote:I remember a game we used to play at recess where you would bounce a tennis ball off of a wall and everyone else would try to catch it. If the person attempting the catch fumbled, he had to run and touch the wall before someone else got the ball, threw it, and hit the wall before they could get there. If the ball beat you, you had to stand facing the wall while the thrower did his best to peg you in the back.
That would be the most excellent game we called "Red Ass", because when you're standing against the wall we'd whip the ball at your ass as hard as we could. It gets really interesting in the winter when the tennis balls freeze up and become hard as rock.
School was great when I was a kid, not only was "murderball" allowed in school, it was actually a part of our gym class. We had massive snowball fights everyday and we'd playfight and wrestle in the snow, and as long as nobody got hurt too bad we could do almost anything we wanted.
Posted: 2003-02-13 07:44pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
Heh, I remember a game commonly referred to as "snow war" at my old school. During the winter, either the 4th or 5th graders would build a snow fort. Then the opposing grade and them would literly line up, run at each other full speed and fucking startdeckingeach other until one side lost enough numbers and ran off. If the builders team lost you got to wreck their fort. The snow was, I shit you not, red with all the bloody noses and cut arms and legs from all the fighting.
And ya wanna know what the teachers did? They sat back and watched, laughed had a good tiem watching us kick the crap out fo each other. And I'm a tiny guy too, I fought dirty, biting, clawing, kicking (not below the belt, thatwasagainst the rules thank god)wherever it hurt most, and I go tbeat up bad too. Good times, good times indeed.
Posted: 2003-02-13 07:48pm
by Darth Wong
Mark S wrote:I remember Murderball when I was little. Though I think it's just an Ontario name because when I moved out of province it was always called Dodgeball.
Too bad. Murderball is a better name IMHO.
I also remember huge snowpiles being called murder mountain. Point being basically to throw people off.
We called that "King of the Hill".
Posted: 2003-02-14 02:27am
by Gandalf
Did anyone here play "Brandings", where basically you play tag, but you throw a tennis ball at each other instead of tagging. It was great to play about the school buildings as it was terrainous, and other people made good reasons to hide in there.
EDIT: We got banned because the kindergarten children were playing their own game of it and hurt themselves.
Posted: 2003-02-14 08:18pm
by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi
Sure, the story has been reported here before, but it's so damn stupid that it's worth reporting again.
Anyway, I'm glad my school district isn't run by PC pussies that ban just about anything in school. Sure, we don't play games with cool names like "Red Ass", and "Murderball", but at least we still have tag and dodgeball.
On the topic of zero-tolerance policies, I believe that they don't work, and blow things out of proportion (Did you hear of the story of the kid who was charged with "terrorist threats" for dreawing a picture of his teacher with an arrow through her head? Or how about all those cases where kid draws a picture of a weapon and is treated like just used one?)
Posted: 2003-02-14 08:35pm
by Iceberg
King of the Hill is the quintessential northern "boy" game. All you need is winter, a large pile of snow (like a plow drift), and a few (preferably a half-dozen or so) preadolescent boys.
When I was 7-9, I lived in a cul-de-sac, and we had the biggest, most perfect plow drifts in the cul-de-sac for that game. I remember falling down and hitting my head in the street and immediately getting back up to shove the kid who just pushed me back into the street in the other direction.
No game of King of the Hill was complete without a fistfight and at least one bloody nose, by the way. Hard feelings, of course, were left by the wayside as soon as the blood flow dried up. In this day and age, of course, you'd never have a fistfight because those kids would be inside playing on their Playstations, not outside working off all that energy. *sigh* What happened? Where did we err?
Ah, for the days when children were allowed to be children and not drugged-up little zombies.
Posted: 2003-02-14 08:37pm
by Iceberg
"Some of my readers felt it inexcusable to show a child fantasizing about blowing up his elementary school. Apparently some of my readers were never children themselves." - Bill Watterson
Posted: 2003-02-14 08:43pm
by Nathan F
I dare you to find a kid that HASN'T dreamed of their school being sunk into the ground by an earthquake or buried in an avalanche....