American Concentration Camps: Ashcrofts plan

[Enlightenment]

A Federal Court has already asked for the compelling evidence for why they are illegally holding a US citizen (Hamdi), and the Ashcrofts Justice Department told the court to essentially fuck off and deal with it.

It goes without saying that that there will be a constitutional crisis if Little Hitler doesn't believe in the authority of the judicial branch if and when the issue reaches the USSC and it rules against the government. IIRC there aren't any consitutional safeguards to dispose of an executive (branch) that doesn't abide by supreme court rulings; the only trap doors are Congress removing Ashcroft, the armed forces 'reminding' (at bayonet point if need be) the executive that everyone in uniform swears to uphold the constitution, or the consitution getting thrown out the window. My money is on the last option.

Thankfully I am not an American and under no circumstances will I set foot on US soil until well after the current authoritarian regime has been deposed.

[Mr. B]

Heil Ashcroft!

What do you expect from a ULTRA CONSERVATIVE FUNDAMENTALIST?

He wants nothing more than a police state to keep those evil liberals/atheist/non-white/foreigners/catholics/jews/non-christians from his perfect world. And he has just the president to help him.

BTW he LOST to a DEAD MAN in the senate race.

[Enforcer Talen]

Don't speak too soon. It's already happening, in the sense that American citizens are already being held without due process, in defiance of constitutional guarantees.

There's no need to worry. They're only taking left-wing Muslim men with long and/or strange hair styles. Us down home Christian white men with proper hair cuts have nothing to fear. After all, we all know, Father Bush knows best.

damn. I'm a white male christian who has long hair and dresses in arabic clothing.

this goes through, the fbi take me down in a month.

heil fuhrer ashcroft and his s.s. department of mental loyalty.

[Sea Skimmer]

Funny how a little ways down we currently have a thread going in which people questioned why Americans see a need for guns to protect freedoms…

Given that British Political leader has been proposing similar measures along with large anti privacy bills recently, I think there the ones who should be afraid, not the citizens of the literal Arsenal of Democracy..

[MKSheppard]

Funny how a little ways down we currently have a thread going in which people questioned why Americans see a need for guns to protect freedoms…

Given that British Political leader has been proposing similar measures along with large anti privacy bills recently, I think there the ones who should be afraid, not the citizens of the literal Arsenal of Democracy..

Yeah, It's so fucking funny......the liberals are whining that we don't need
guns, and then Asscroft comes along with this stupid bullshit plan, and they're
all abuzz with talk about assassinations......tee hee......

SEE HOW WE FELT DURING KLINTON?

We had to put up with crap every week about how Cliton was tearing the
bill of rights to pieces to promote his agenda, and now you're only waking
up to the fears of big government run amok? My god, this is priceless.

[NecronLord]

Alyrium, why write your Congressman when they probly won't respond or send you a bullshit letter saying "they're concerned", or if you're lucky they'll bullshit ya to other State Congressman and then they'll after sending it some one you'll end wrting to the same Senator in the end. Quite the Buerocracy, in my opinion.

So join and support me in my Rise to power as Emperor of Earth.

I think you'll find that I am the Emperor of Humanity, and the Earth. You can be govenor of somewhere though.

[Admiral Piett]

Funny how a little ways down we currently have a thread going in which people questioned why Americans see a need for guns to protect freedoms…

Given that British Political leader has been proposing similar measures along with large anti privacy bills recently, I think there the ones who should be afraid, not the citizens of the literal Arsenal of Democracy..

I suppose that the private militias are already preparing to take over the Capitol to protect the freedom of the US from the evil dictator...
OOOPS I forgot that even they are antiimmigrants and religious fundamentalists.Maybe they will enlist themselves in the SS...ehm concentration camps guards corps
Listen to me,if you invest your money in the stock market buy stock of corporations which manufacture barbed wire.These things tend to become larger...

[Mr Bean]

Trenchbukle? WTF is that?

A Trencbukle is a unqiue Verison of the Catabult using a Throwing arm though it can be equiped with a Dish, Per Pound its roughly two and a half times effective as a compartice Catapult, Much like a Compound Bow Vs a Normal Bow to give you some idea

A medium sized one has enough Power to Hurl a Volkswagen Beattle Roughly a half a Mile

[MKSheppard]

Trenchbukle? WTF is that?

A Trencbukle

don't you mean Trebuchet?

[Mr Bean]

If I wanted to know how to Spell Shepered I would try

[Raptor 597]

Alyrium, why write your Congressman when they probly won't respond or send you a bullshit letter saying "they're concerned", or if you're lucky they'll bullshit ya to other State Congressman and then they'll after sending it some one you'll end wrting to the same Senator in the end. Quite the Buerocracy, in my opinion.

So join and support me in my Rise to power as Emperor of Earth.

I think you'll find that I am the Emperor of Humanity, and the Earth. You can be govenor of somewhere though.

No no, I say we have a Global Civil War.
And I want America and Canada as my nuclear shield. j/k

[Mr Bean]

Long as as my ISP servers contiuies I shall be happy(And I would not say know to using forced labor(Crimrals ext...) to re-do the Nation's Phone lines into Fiber optec connections in the mean-time

(*Edit we have the tecnology, We have the capablity of Having a 40 MB Connection from the East Coast of America to Japan but no one wants to spend the money on converting)

[starfury]

Heil Ashcroft!

What do you expect from a ULTRA CONSERVATIVE FUNDAMENTALIST?

He wants nothing more than a police state to keep those evil liberals/atheist/non-white/foreigners/catholics/jews/non-christians from his perfect world. And he has just the president to help him.

BTW he LOST to a DEAD MAN in the senate race.

exactly, all his actions though fascist-like, are perfectly expected from these ultra-right conservative fundie, give money to the rich in the midist of a reccesion, and began setting up a police state.

[Mr Bean]

OH YEAH!

I forgot about that! I remeber that so clearly, Ashcroft won by default because his opposition died during the Campain, Plane-Crash right?

Well what did you except? The people of his stated would rather have a dead guy than him

[starfury]

Just like our friend bush won because of those nitwits who voted for nadar, they are caused that whole mess of counting and recounting votes for both bush and gore.

that appears to be the only thing both liberals and conservatives agree on, considering how close the election was.

[Admiral Piett]

Please,may someone explain me these references about Mr Ashcroft losing to a dead man?

[Mr Bean]

I forget his name but the Person Ashcroft was running aginst died in a Plane Crash a Week Before the Voting and the Dead Guy still got over 60% of the Vote(He won by default because the other guy died)

So the vote was a formality but still many people voted for that dead guy

[Wicked Pilot]

I forget his name but the Person Ashcroft was running aginst died in a Plane Crash a Week Before the Voting and the Dead Guy still got over 60% of the Vote(He won by default because the other guy died)

So the vote was a formality but still many people voted for that dead guy

Not quite. When Ashcroft's opponent died, the wife took over the campaign. In cases when someone dies during an election, their spouse takes over. Ashcroft lost to the widow, who ran on her husband's ticket.

[MKSheppard]

Not quite. When Ashcroft's opponent died, the wife took over the campaign. In cases when someone dies during an election, their spouse takes over. Ashcroft lost to the widow, who ran on her husband's ticket.

And then he got promoted to the AG position. Gotta love how things
work out...

[Alyrium Denryle]

All those who are of voting age write your congressmen and threaten not to vote for them unless they do something now.

That should get the attention of those vote vultures

[Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi]

I'm pretty sure Ashcroft's idea will get voted against in Congress unanimously. Perhaps when Ashcroft sobers up, he'll regret it. Perhaps if he keeps this up, he'll get impeached.

[Stuart Mackey]

Well well, this goes someway to confirming a theory of mine.
After Mcarthy's communist witch hunts, you could say that America would never fall to communism, but there is evry risk that America could fall to fascism, Ashcroft tends to confirm it.

[Enlightenment]

I'm pretty sure Ashcroft's idea will get voted against in Congress unanimously. Perhaps when Ashcroft sobers up, he'll regret it. Perhaps if he keeps this up, he'll get impeached.

Don't bet on it. The United States has always looked kindly on authoritarianism, particularly in cases where the associated abuses of power are directed towards leftists or groups on the edges of society. Ashcroft's position will be perfectly safe as long as he restrains himself to only locking up Muslims and arabs. The only way he'll get his head handed to him in Congress is if he engages in every fundamentalist zealot's fantasy of locking up Democrats as enemies of the state.

[oberon]

A catapult with a throwing arm? When did they not have throwing arms? Is this a trebuchet, i.e., one with a counterweight and slingshot?

[The Yosemite Bear]

That's it all of you Native Americans and you Folks of Japanese Ancestory. Make SURE this NEVER happens AGAIN!