Heh Heh.....USS Robert E Lee?

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2003-02-18 01:12pm

Stormbringer wrote:
ArmorPierce wrote:I see, you have no point, just want to gloat. I don't even know why you would care about it to gloat though.
This Shep, he masturbates to battle accounts.

That may be going too far Shep....

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-02-18 01:30pm

Captain tycho wrote: That may be going too far Shep....

Nah, it's no problem, considering the source; the cumgargling cockrocket
known as Stormbringer

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-02-18 01:55pm

SB/MK lets keep this civil

argh pun demon

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-02-18 02:08pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:SB/MK lets keep this civil

Why should I be civil to him? He sent me a very inflammatory
PM during the entire mess last week, so he can go fuck himself
and the horse he rode in on....

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-02-18 02:17pm

MKSheppard wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:SB/MK lets keep this civil
Why should I be civil to him? He sent me a very inflammatory
PM during the entire mess last week, so he can go fuck himself
and the horse he rode in on....

That particular flame war is over and buried. Don't ressurrect it (and I'm not talking only to you). Anyway, any more of this and I'll throw the thread into the HOS.

Setzer · Post by **Setzer** » 2003-02-18 04:30pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I think the point is that the PC people wouldn't approve of that, because they'd say Lee was racist.

I'd find if funny if there was a USS Bill Clinton, though.

It would actually be somewhat appropriate. Think of what a torpedo is shaped like. Now think of Bill Clinton. Both a warship and Bill CLinton want to sink their torpedoes into whatever they can.

Captain Kruger · Post by **Captain Kruger** » 2003-02-18 05:00pm

Everyone likes to assume that everyone who fought for the CSA was a raving, hatemongering racist. Lee was not in favor of secession at all. His only reason for wearing that uniform was that he would not fight against his home state, period. Does anyone have any evidence that he was a racist? Did he personally own slaves?

The American Civil War was not about slavery. Hell, half the time, free Blacks in the North were treated worse than slaves in the South.

Regardless of your personal opinions on that war, he was an American, and one of the greatest generals of all time.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2003-02-18 05:53pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:True but they won't do it, because the Hunley didn't exactly survive it's first contact with the enemy.

Uh, yes it did. The first attempt too sink a Union ship failed when the explosive charge didn't goff. They tried a week later.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-02-18 07:24pm

MKSheppard wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:SB/MK lets keep this civil
Why should I be civil to him? He sent me a very inflammatory
PM during the entire mess last week, so he can go fuck himself
and the horse he rode in on....

If you want a flame war the Hall of Shame is there. I won't interfere with your posts but then again I can't say I really give a damn.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-02-19 02:19am

Because WE don't want flame wars, threatening pms or anything else for a while.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2003-02-19 04:48am

Captain Kruger wrote:Everyone likes to assume that everyone who fought for the CSA was a raving, hatemongering racist. Lee was not in favor of secession at all. His only reason for wearing that uniform was that he would not fight against his home state, period. Does anyone have any evidence that he was a racist? Did he personally own slaves?

In point of fact, the general did not own slaves, nor did he approve of slavery. Towards the end of the conflict, it was Lee himself who put his weight behind a measure to enlist blacks as combat troops in the CSA, with the promise of emancipation in exchange for their battlefield service.

The American Civil War was not about slavery. Hell, half the time, free Blacks in the North were treated worse than slaves in the South.

It would be more accurate to say that slavery was not the sole reason for the war, but was part of the fabric of issues between the two sides in the war. And the Confederate constitution did incorporate the Federal Fugitive Slave Law of 1850 in its articles and thus did put its government in defence of the "peculiar institution".

Regardless of your personal opinions on that war, he was an American, and one of the greatest generals of all time.

Of that there is no doubt.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-02-19 05:10am

Bill Clinton would be an appropriate sub name.

"Captain, the Clinton has shot its Torpedo Load, We're going down like a white house intern!"