Re: We have Matter meeting Antimatter, then ????? then POWER!
Posted: 2009-12-15 08:39am
Fun thought: What if the M/AM reactors were a massive internal combustion engine? WITH PISTONS! 

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I just re-watched the movie this weekend, and though the label there says inert reactant, the computer voice also says, "Turbine release valve activated" when Kirk opens the hatch for Scotty to escape. Then, on the bridge, Chekov says: "Captain Spock, detecting unauthorized access to water turbine control room."Bounty wrote:It wasn't cooling fluid.
My first guess is that the turbine is actually driving the flow, not tapping it for power, but that's probably ridiculous for some reason.McC wrote:I just re-watched the movie this weekend, and though the label there says inert reactant, the computer voice also says, "Turbine release valve activated" when Kirk opens the hatch for Scotty to escape. Then, on the bridge, Chekov says: "Captain Spock, detecting unauthorized access to water turbine control room."Bounty wrote:It wasn't cooling fluid.
As an engineer aboard a real ship, I can say you're half right. On real ships, seawater can usually be used to cool off most machinery components - except the main engine, which usually uses a closed loop system. Coolant fluid (water and glycol mix) circulates through the engine and then back out, where that fluid is cooled off by seawater. It usually goes to a fresh water generator of some kind to take advantage of the "free" heat, but either way, after it gets hot in the engine, it cools down somewhere else.Darth Wong wrote:If it was cooling fluid, Scotty would have been boiled alive. Despite the superficial implication of the name, cooling fluids are actually hot; that's the whole point of them.
Very true.Darth Wong wrote:It's entirely possible that the ship simply has an onboard plumbing system for showers and drinking water, and that's what he fell into.If it really is water and the ship really uses turbines, they would need a crap load of water. You can make the future as efficient as you want, but you'd still need a ridiculous amount of feed water...
Well, that setteles that.Bounty wrote:It wasn't cooling fluid.
Well, then it's a pump. Not a turbine.Simon_Jester wrote:My first guess is that the turbine is actually driving the flow, not tapping it for power, but that's probably ridiculous for some reason.McC wrote:I just re-watched the movie this weekend, and though the label there says inert reactant, the computer voice also says, "Turbine release valve activated" when Kirk opens the hatch for Scotty to escape. Then, on the bridge, Chekov says: "Captain Spock, detecting unauthorized access to water turbine control room."Bounty wrote:It wasn't cooling fluid.
Couldn't be! HAB already has the exclusive patent on that related to our Atomic Ignition Engine technology. Speak of this further and you owe us a quarter.Shroom Man 777 wrote:Fun thought: What if the M/AM reactors were a massive internal combustion engine? WITH PISTONS!
Nope not at all, turbine pumps are very very common things. In fact in the modern age pumps which are not some kind of turbine are probably a minority. A modern car easily has four or five different turbine pumps in the engine and transmission already.Simon_Jester wrote:My first guess is that the turbine is actually driving the flow, not tapping it for power, but that's probably ridiculous for some reason.