Star Wars. Blu-Ray. Confirmed. 2011.

[Azron_Stoma]

I could stand the VSDs, even if its unnessissary, but the bombardment of Geonosis is pointless. It is very easy to rationalize the lack of orbital bombardment as a desire to avoid collateral damage. If anything, showing multi-Gigaton blasts hammering Geonosis would make less sense.

I was thinking the bombardment would be spread out, with each shot thousands of km from another, the Idea being that while they would not fire at the Arena/Spire area the various droid factories across the planet would be getting taken out in precision, coordinated, rapid strikes.

I can't remember, does the current version actually show it taking out the whole tower?

Drooling Iguana fielded that, but just to have it be more explicit that the tower survived.

Where would you add in these "aiming skills" other than aboard the Tantive IV? Most of the time they're shooting at heros, and have to miss. In fact, the only other point in the entire series where you could showcase their aiming skills would be Endor.

Mostly Endor yes, but also the Hoth battle of the Snowtroopers in the rebel base, which is something I always wanted to see, though I guess it would just be a repeat of the Tantive IV scene in some ways, would like to see maybe an E-web used on screen, as well as a grenade or two tossed around.

Showing more Ewoks getting killed might add realism, but I suspect there's a strong element of fanboyish Ewok hate there.

Sorry, that was unintentional, since I also would like to see more ferocious behavior from the Ewoks, seeing the people in the furry suits faking that they are hitting a Stormtrooper over the head replaced with a CG Ewok hitting them full force and seeing the trooper's head turn in a direction that the neck never meant it to go in, I was thinking that when i mentioned more ewok deaths, but I forgot to add it.

Showing the attack on the Sandcrawler adds pretty much nothing to the film.

True, it would be rather superfluous, scratch that idea then.

Some of the above is pointless, and its all needless. Hard-core Trekkies would just dismiss any new evidence anyway if it didn't fit their theories, and altering a cinematic classic for the purpose of scoring points in a vs debate frankly strikes me as the height of shallow pettiness.

As the great David Xanatos once said "Reason not the Need".

However the vs edit comment was meant more as a joke than anything else, since I had seen similar concepts mentioned in the vs edit thread, so pissing off Trektards or doing it for the vs debate isn't the reason for it all, just the rule of cool and make the Empire more threatening, which would heighten the excitement even though we all know how it goes.

I don't care about the Sarlacc beak, but I agree about Han shooting first. That was a change that should never have been made, and it should now be undone.

To me the beak just added problems to the Sarlacc design, and made it less of a "Living Pit" and more of a "subterranean octopus" in a way. It also had a weird thing where creatures could fall in it and land in the fleshy area between the beak and the spikes, like when foot is between the lip and the teeth, forcing it to use the tentacles as a sort of toothpick to put it in it's mouth, rather than just drag them into the fleshy, tooth filled maw of hell.

I know they added it to make it seem more "alive" but the extra tentacles did that well enough imo, maybe have there be more movement around the gullet and teeth instead.

But, to each their own.

Oh, and if the DVD version hasn't already done it or someone has found a way to explain it, make the Galaxy seen at the end of Empire Strikes back static rather than rotating.

Maybe even remove allot of the star field (since it's outside the galaxy) and add the Rishi maze and other Dwarf galaxy to the shot, though I've heard some explanations that it WAS the Rishi Maze we saw at the end of TESB, in which case the other adjustments aren't necessary.

[The Romulan Republic]

I was thinking the bombardment would be spread out, with each shot thousands of km from another, the Idea being that while they would not fire at the Arena/Spire area the various droid factories across the planet would be getting taken out in precision, coordinated, rapid strikes.

That could work, I suppose, though it would have to be done carefully and not using the main guns.

Drooling Iguana fielded that, but just to have it be more explicit that the tower survived.

Then this is another of those changes that wouldn't seriously hurt the film but isn't really needed.

Mostly Endor yes, but also the Hoth battle of the Snowtroopers in the rebel base, which is something I always wanted to see, though I guess it would just be a repeat of the Tantive IV scene in some ways, would like to see maybe an E-web used on screen, as well as a grenade or two tossed around.

Interesting. I wonder why weren't any of those included in the original. I can't imagine they'd increase the effects budget by that much.

Sorry, that was unintentional, since I also would like to see more ferocious behavior from the Ewoks, seeing the people in the furry suits faking that they are hitting a Stormtrooper over the head replaced with a CG Ewok hitting them full force and seeing the trooper's head turn in a direction that the neck never meant it to go in, I was thinking that when i mentioned more ewok deaths, but I forgot to add it.

Hmm. At least this would make the both the Ewoks and the troopers seem like a more credible threat.

I tend to be quick to defend the Ewoks because frankly I find the hatred a lot of people have for them rather overblown.

As the great David Xanatos once said "Reason not the Need".

However the vs edit comment was meant more as a joke than anything else, since I had seen similar concepts mentioned in the vs edit thread, so pissing off Trektards or doing it for the vs debate isn't the reason for it all, just the rule of cool and make the Empire more threatening, which would heighten the excitement even though we all know how it goes.

You have a point. On the other hand, I have deep reservations about editing old films in general. Certainly the originals have both a historic and nostalgic value unaltered. But at least your changes would, by and large, be better than the whole Han shoots first debacle.

The part of the series for which I'd be most likely to support heavy editing is Episode One (its just that bad), but that's not really the topic of this thread.

To me the beak just added problems to the Sarlacc design, and made it less of a "Living Pit" and more of a "subterranean octopus" in a way. It also had a weird thing where creatures could fall in it and land in the fleshy area between the beak and the spikes, like when foot is between the lip and the teeth, forcing it to use the tentacles as a sort of toothpick to put it in it's mouth, rather than just drag them into the fleshy, tooth filled maw of hell.

It doesn't bother me, though I can see how it might bother some people. Just a matter of personal taste.

I know they added it to make it seem more "alive" but the extra tentacles did that well enough imo, maybe have there be more movement around the gullet and teeth instead.

But, to each their own.

Oh, and if the DVD version hasn't already done it or someone has found a way to explain it, make the Galaxy seen at the end of Empire Strikes back static rather than rotating.

Maybe even remove allot of the star field (since it's outside the galaxy) and add the Rishi maze and other Dwarf galaxy to the shot, though I've heard some explanations that it WAS the Rishi Maze we saw at the end of TESB, in which case the other adjustments aren't necessary.

That's interesting. I didn't recall the galaxy actually visibly rotating, but its been a while since I watched the end of Empire Strikes Back.