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Trailer music like this is so painfully generic. I only recently discovered that there are actually companies dedicated to making trailer music, with in-house orchestra and choirs for the generic Latin chanting. Also kind of wish they wouldn't sell the game as some sort of action-movie, when we know that the game ain't anything like that.

But yeah, I'm not buying SC2. Totally not interested.

Ditto. I feel like the RTS genre has really moved on since Starcraft 1 and is better for it. But I'm sure a lot of holdouts from the old days will love it to bits.

Nuts, since I choose super saver shipping on my preorder, it probably won't arrive until August 2.

Oh well, I'll just go back to working for my shadowy masters at the Acheron Foundation.

The thought of three separate games makes my eye twitch. Greedy bastards. Honestly, is there a reason to get all expansions other than to just play the single-player campaigns, which probably won't even be good?

You can even watch the 'story' on youtube.

Stark wrote:You can even watch the 'story' on youtube.

Saved me tons of cash over the years. It's the fast way of getting out some games by demoing a level, realizing the game is that, watch the cinemas and get a good laugh from it all.

Exactly. If I feel like watching their wish-they-had-spent-this-much-effort-on-the-game-movies, I'll just use youtube.

And yet people say everyone in gears is huge

Well they are and they look ridiculous, but isn't there some plot reason for that?

it is called "they wear armour"

Considering the sheer volume of those who loved it, my guess would be that large armour + large men + bad guys + nostalgia overrides the Stark Value of any given event.

But we already knew that; it's why American football remains popular.

Stark wrote:Sorry, Blackhawk Down. Slowmo last stands with awful music = good, apparently. And it was played for emotion, so I guess people invested in the Starcraft story (if they exist) would love it.

This wasn't even a last stand. This was somebody just deciding to give up.

I mean, I am one of those who liked the Starcraft story simply because when compared to the other RTS of the time, it wasn't that much of a "TERRANS GOOD, OTHERS BAD" clicheé. For example, you join Mengsk because he might be a good guy and then it turns out he is worse than the Confederacy etc. That was pretty neat IMO.

But this....I dunno. Maybe I have moved on, maybe I don't like the cinematic choice....whatever.


I am also one of those who do not like multiplayer games, so I prefer SP with a storyline.

Thanas wrote:

Stark wrote:Sorry, Blackhawk Down. Slowmo last stands with awful music = good, apparently. And it was played for emotion, so I guess people invested in the Starcraft story (if they exist) would love it.

This wasn't even a last stand. This was somebody just deciding to give up.

Maybe she ran out of ammo, or maybe this is Raynor imagining what happened. He wasn't on the ground with her after all, and he's been beating himself up over it for years.

She was fighting as long as Magistrate was there to tell her what to do.
But seriously whatever happened to the Magistrate? He seemed like a cool and in control guy even if not too talkative.

Kerrigan giving up in that scene reminded me of the intro to Brood War, only this time it sucked. Color me unimpressed. My experience with the beta was equally underwhelming. The only thing left for me to care about is the story, which, given that Warcraft III was identical to Starcraft, means I'm not holding my breath.

Steel wrote:I'm not keen for the art style of a lot of that. That 'Prince' (?) guy with the blonde ponytail looked like one of my most hated 'generic anime aristocrat' forms. Didn't like the new faces of Raynor or Mengsk, how did they both get so fat? Voices are a little off, but I can't expect people to sound exactly the same after 15 years.

Not fat, just really big. That annoys me, they should have kept their big beefy people in Warcraft and stuck to realistic-sized people in SC. For God's sakes, they're not Space Marines.

At the end, there's what look likes to be a Ghost. Popped cartridge falls out and slams into the Earth - higher gravity?

I know SCII is being released in three installments, but how much content is going to be in Wings Of Liberty?

There's no way in hell i'm getting this if it's a glorified expansion pack with five missions.

Darksider wrote:I know SCII is being released in three installments, but how much content is going to be in Wings Of Liberty?

There's no way in hell i'm getting this if it's a glorified expansion pack with five missions.

I believe Blizzard stated that it will have 30 missions total. Now whether that is 30 for each part with the splits included, or 30 missions total is unknown. Also a full multiplayer with some changes from the single player.

Presumably the next two will follow a close case to this one in terms of single player. Multiplayer I believe they are adding more units unique to each race as an option, but not as much has been said about that yet.

Well, according to Gamestop they're charging full price for it, so I think i'll wait to see if there are 30 missions in WoL, or total before I buy it. I don't do Starcraft multi, and sixty bucks hardly seems worth it for ten missions.

There are about 20 to 26 or 29 missions (some are optional).

As for people being big, I believe the Terrans have access to genetic modification technology (a fair amount of the original convicts on the sleeper ships were probably genetically modified in some way, which probably included beefier body builds).

Stofsk wrote:Maybe she ran out of ammo, or maybe this is Raynor imagining what happened. He wasn't on the ground with her after all, and he's been beating himself up over it for years.

Given the way it was flashing between her last stand and Raynor sitting around mopey, I'm guess it was the bolded bit.

Anyway, them specs look like what I have, minus the processor. Of course this is a laptop so that may not mean as much. But we'll see.

adam_grif wrote:

But yeah, I'm not buying SC2. Totally not interested.

Ditto. I feel like the RTS genre has really moved on since Starcraft 1 and is better for it. But I'm sure a lot of holdouts from the old days will love it to bits.

Absolutely. I cut my teeth on Total Annihilation, so to me, RTSs without good queuing feel really limiting. RTSs without a rate-based economy bug me, and the 12-unit selection limit in Starcraft absolutely drives me up a wall.

From what I've been told, the unit selection limit in SCII is gone. Anyway, cinematics look nice. I'll likely give it a try; I'm not too bothered if it's old-skool, provided it's fun.

Pelranius wrote:As for people being big, I believe the Terrans have access to genetic modification technology (a fair amount of the original convicts on the sleeper ships were probably genetically modified in some way, which probably included beefier body builds).

This does not explain how the width of Raynor's head has doubled between SC1 and SC2.

Or why Kerrigan (both infested and Sarah) got a voice transplant (in the trailer, Raynor apparently had such a big head since New Gettysburg judging from the transmission of him, and Mengsk changed uniforms). Gotta love Blizzard's art department...

The Magistrate amicably parted ways with Raynor after escaping from Tarsonis. He's probably chilling with the UED captain from Episode V (there are UED Remnants in the Koprulu Sector after all).

Pelranius wrote:Or why Kerrigan (both infested and Sarah) got a voice transplant (in the trailer, Raynor apparently had such a big head since New Gettysburg judging from the transmission of him, and Mengsk changed uniforms). Gotta love Blizzard's art department...

The Magistrate amicably parted ways with Raynor after escaping from Tarsonis. He's probably chilling with the UED captain from Episode V (there are UED Remnants in the Koprulu Sector after all).

My bet is the magistrate is somewhere bumping uglies with his secretary.

Thanas wrote:

Pelranius wrote:Or why Kerrigan (both infested and Sarah) got a voice transplant (in the trailer, Raynor apparently had such a big head since New Gettysburg judging from the transmission of him, and Mengsk changed uniforms). Gotta love Blizzard's art department...

The Magistrate amicably parted ways with Raynor after escaping from Tarsonis. He's probably chilling with the UED captain from Episode V (there are UED Remnants in the Koprulu Sector after all).

My bet is the magistrate is somewhere bumping uglies with his secretary.

She was cute, in a cybernetic sort of way.
I do recall hearing that the Protoss player-character will actually be an in-game character this time around, though. Anyone able to confirm?

It's Zeratul.