Species 8472 v.s The Protoss

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Re: Species 8472 v.s The Protoss

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Lord Relvenous wrote:
Imperial528 wrote:Oh and NecronLord, I just looked up the image you mentioned-it's there. (I'm surprised I didn't notice it when I installed SC II) And the ships in it definitely seem to be carriers.
Do you have a link to the image?
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At 0:56:00 or so. Someone recorded the story slide show that plays during the installation. Upon watching it again, I noticed that there are Carrier interceptors flying around.
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the protoss would win. they have the tech nology to kill at least a few dozen 8472 ships. and as you see from voyoger if you kill 4 or 5 ships they run away.
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lordofchange13 wrote:The protoss would win. they have the technology to kill at least a few dozen 8472 ships. And as you see from Voyager if you kill 4 or 5 ships they run away.
/fixed in bold and underlined.

PS: I may be on the Protoss' side, but: prove it.
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Imperial528 wrote:
lordofchange13 wrote:The protoss would win. they have the technology to kill at least a few dozen 8472 ships. And as you see from Voyager if you kill 4 or 5 ships they run away.
/fixed in bold and underlined.

PS: I may be on the Protoss' side, but: prove it.
Voyager shot only a fuw nanit missles at there fleet all gaining a kill, and i do not belive the borg were ever abill to kill a bioship on there own. Meaning the deaths at the hands of voyager were the only deaths of that war, leading me to the idea that there big pussys. Also protoss fire power exsed the borg so i thank thed git a dozen or so kills at least. PS: sorry about technology my space bars realy tempermental.
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lordofchange13 wrote:
Imperial528 wrote:
lordofchange13 wrote:The protoss would win. they have the technology to kill at least a few dozen 8472 ships. And as you see from Voyager if you kill 4 or 5 ships they run away.
/fixed in bold and underlined.

PS: I may be on the Protoss' side, but: prove it.
Voyager shot only a fuw nanit missles at there fleet all gaining a kill, and i do not belive the borg were ever abill to kill a bioship on there own. Meaning the deaths at the hands of voyager were the only deaths of that war, leading me to the idea that there big pussys. Also protoss fire power exsed the borg so i thank thed git a dozen or so kills at least. PS: sorry about technology my space bars realy tempermental.
also they've weaponized black holes, can rapidly jump to warp (starcraft universe warp), and can blow up planets on there own.
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I remember the black holes. But that demands a mothership, which are in short supply. And I already mentioned the Protoss' mobility.

As to blowing up planets, unless there was a book I didn't read (I've not been lucky enough to find any SC books near me...) when did that happen?
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Demiurgas wrote:Star Trek Online.
Meh,

S8472 was one thing Voyager did right. They were an actual alien species. Anthropomorphism them is counterproductive.
I was never keen on the name S8472 myself, ok for the Borg, but for voyager to keep refering to this race as 8472 (a name given to them by a race that tried to assimilate them) seemed more likely in offending that race even more when they could have tried when they had the chance to ask them for their actual race name.
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Korgeta wrote:
Sarevok wrote:
Demiurgas wrote:Star Trek Online.
Meh,

S8472 was one thing Voyager did right. They were an actual alien species. Anthropomorphism them is counterproductive.
I was never keen on the name S8472 myself, ok for the Borg, but for voyager to keep refering to this race as 8472 (a name given to them by a race that tried to assimilate them) seemed more likely in offending that race even more when they could have tried when they had the chance to ask them for their actual race name.
And how would the human crew of Voyager pronounce the name of a race that communicates by telepathy ?
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Imperial528 wrote:I remember the black holes. But that demands a mothership, which are in short supply. And I already mentioned the Protoss' mobility.

As to blowing up planets, unless there was a book I didn't read (I've not been lucky enough to find any SC books near me...) when did that happen?
It's shown in one of the older starcraft videos. it happened on severl acations. If i remember right one of those times was the first time the terrans met the zerg, then the protoss came and shot up the planet.
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Yes, but it was a BDZ-style operation, not a Death Star 'shatter the planet' thing, unless that's what you mean.
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Sarevok wrote: I was never keen on the name S8472 myself, ok for the Borg, but for voyager to keep refering to this race as 8472 (a name given to them by a race that tried to assimilate them) seemed more likely in offending that race even more when they could have tried when they had the chance to ask them for their actual race name.
And how would the human crew of Voyager pronounce the name of a race that communicates by telepathy ?[/quote]

They had clear dialogue with the human disguised 8472 when they were simulating starfleet HQ didn't they?
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Korgeta wrote:
Sarevok wrote:And how would the human crew of Voyager pronounce the name of a race that communicates by telepathy ?
They had clear dialogue with the human disguised 8472 when they were simulating starfleet HQ didn't they?
Why would they have a verbal name for yourself. Imagine trying to transliterate 'human' to a being that communicates by tapping another of its kind on the head.
On the topic of Protoss firepower I don't believe those resemble carriers very closely. They look very different to them in fact, fully covered in exterior armour. This is a carrier, along with what may be the cancelled-unit 'Tempests' or a tempest painted blue.

Other ships that resemble carriers are shown firing on a planet here however.
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The carrier represents the generic "protoss capital ship", while the battlecruiser represent the generic "terran capital ship" in the game. The authors of the game didn't give carriers beam weapons because BC's had, so they had to give a different skill for them in the game.
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Srelex wrote:Yes, but it was a BDZ-style operation, not a Death Star 'shatter the planet' thing, unless that's what you mean.
Less than BDZ, in BDZ they melt the crust of the Planet. The Protoss only bombed all the surface, but Mar Sara was recolonized a few years after. Therefore, the planet's crust wasn't melted.

The scale of destruction was comparable to the terran nuclear attacks on Korhal, with transformed the planet into a desert.
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Srelex wrote:Yes, but it was a BDZ-style operation, not a Death Star 'shatter the planet' thing, unless that's what you mean.
Yes I did not mean blast it in to tiny tiny chunks ,I remember it being a little more suvere then BDZ, the planet seemed to be coming apart.
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lordofchange13 wrote:
Srelex wrote:Yes, but it was a BDZ-style operation, not a Death Star 'shatter the planet' thing, unless that's what you mean.
Yes I did not mean blast it in to tiny tiny chunks ,I remember it being a little more suvere then BDZ, the planet seemed to be coming apart.
You may be thinking of this - it's a fan-vid.
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lordofchange13 wrote:
Srelex wrote:Yes, but it was a BDZ-style operation, not a Death Star 'shatter the planet' thing, unless that's what you mean.
Yes I did not mean blast it in to tiny tiny chunks ,I remember it being a little more suvere then BDZ, the planet seemed to be coming apart.
You may be thinking of this - it's a fan-vid.
That was thevideo i was thinking of didn't know it was fan-made , but planet blasting happens with in the cannon back story at severial times.
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As far as I know it's generally just said to be 'destroyed.' Unless you're thinking of Redstone? But that's not attributed to any known faction.
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Iosef Cross wrote:
Srelex wrote:Yes, but it was a BDZ-style operation, not a Death Star 'shatter the planet' thing, unless that's what you mean.
Less than BDZ, in BDZ they melt the crust of the Planet. The Protoss only bombed all the surface, but Mar Sara was recolonized a few years after. Therefore, the planet's crust wasn't melted.

The scale of destruction was comparable to the terran nuclear attacks on Korhal, with transformed the planet into a desert.
The problem with using Mar Sara as an example of protoss fire power as it is clearly evident that Tassadar was holding back when he attacked the planet.
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May I note that Chau Sara had its atmosphere completely burned off, and so was not able to be easily terraformed by the Terrans (or simply not able to be terraformed at all), thus it was not colonized about five years later like Mar Sara had been.
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NecronLord wrote:As far as I know it's generally just said to be 'destroyed.' Unless you're thinking of Redstone? But that's not attributed to any known faction.
redstone died from natural couses
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