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Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 10:53am
by loomer
The rules for Caravan are really simple but make exactly no sense to me.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 11:16am
by Losonti Tokash
Skill books still exist, and give you 3 points instead of 1. Comprehension still just gives you the one extra point from those books and I think it makes the magazines last twice as long. The books are rare as hell, though, I've only found one so far.

Amending my last post, Hardcore mode is worth it just because ammo now has mass, so there's no carrying about 40 guns with thousands of rounds of ammo for each one. A lot of the interface improvements are relatively seamless, like the DT indicator when you're attacking. Character animations are a lot better.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 11:25am
by General Zod
I think I can safely say they've definitely tweeked the difficulty. I got ambushed by four radscorpions at once last night (it started with one), and while I was busy trying to avoid getting gangraped four feral ghouls appeared out of nowhere and joined in on the fun of sodomizing me without lube. What the Christ. It's not like I was very far into the game either, I was on my way to Fort Mojave.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 11:32am
by Losonti Tokash
Traveling at night tends to be a bad idea. Nightstalkers might come and rape you to death.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 11:33am
by General Zod
Losonti Tokash wrote:Traveling at night tends to be a bad idea. Nightstalkers might come and rape you to death.
I was traveling in the daytime. :?

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 11:43am
by Losonti Tokash
General Zod wrote:
Losonti Tokash wrote:Traveling at night tends to be a bad idea. Nightstalkers might come and rape you to death.
I was traveling in the daytime. :?
Oh, you said last night, and so I thought you meant in-game, for some reason. Still! It's good advice. :P

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 12:29pm
by The Dark
Losonti Tokash wrote:Skill books still exist, and give you 3 points instead of 1. Comprehension still just gives you the one extra point from those books and I think it makes the magazines last twice as long. The books are rare as hell, though, I've only found one so far.

Amending my last post, Hardcore mode is worth it just because ammo now has mass, so there's no carrying about 40 guns with thousands of rounds of ammo for each one. A lot of the interface improvements are relatively seamless, like the DT indicator when you're attacking. Character animations are a lot better.
According to the Fallout wiki, there are 3 books for Explosives and 4 books for every other skill, for 51 total books. There are 213 magazines.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 12:35pm
by Ghost Rider
Interestingly with only that many you are getting at max 12-16(9-12) extra points and that is if you hunt every single book down. Ouch.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 12:58pm
by Vendetta
Certainly a step down from "max out every skill with a starting Int of 3", which you could do in F3.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 12:59pm
by Ghost Rider
Vendetta wrote:Certainly a step down from "max out every skill with a starting Int of 3", which you could do in F3.
Especially that thought, which is a good thing.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 02:16pm
by SirNitram
Books do show up. No idea on Bobbleheads.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 02:18pm
by General Zod
SirNitram wrote:Books do show up. No idea on Bobbleheads.
There's no Bobbleheads this game. They've been replaced with Snowglobes instead, which don't give you any kind of real bonus. But you can sell them for 2000 caps apiece to Mr. House in Vegas.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 02:32pm
by Ghost Rider
SirNitram wrote:Books do show up. No idea on Bobbleheads.
There are replaced by chip enhancements...kinda. They don't give free bonuses as much as they give +1 and a couple extra bits, but at the cost of whether or not do you have enough ENDurance.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 03:31pm
by Zixinus
Has anyone saw the alien at the beginning of the game? I picked Wild Wasteland and it is supposed to show up at the doc's house.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 04:06pm
by General Zod
Zixinus wrote:Has anyone saw the alien at the beginning of the game? I picked Wild Wasteland and it is supposed to show up at the doc's house.
I picked the Wild Wasteland too, but so far I haven't noticed anything exceedingly strange or out of the ordinary. (Aside from getting gangraped by a bunch of radscorpions and feral ghouls all at once, mind you.)

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 04:35pm
by Zixinus
I've discovered two appearance in the starting locations alone. One is a bit obscure and unintelligible to anyone not a regular at the Something Awful forums and the other... well, let's just say its something that SHOULD have happened. :D

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 04:36pm
by Stark
Regardless of anything else, Beth should be congratulated for actually including simple game-changing options as tick boxes. Who knew it was that easy to please everyone?

We did. But anyway, it should be encouraged in future.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 05:06pm
by Bakustra
Stark wrote:Regardless of anything else, Beth should be congratulated for actually including simple game-changing options as tick boxes. Who knew it was that easy to please everyone?

We did. But anyway, it should be encouraged in future.
Obsidian developed New Vegas, not Bethesda.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 05:10pm
by Stark
Well, them then. :P

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 05:12pm
by General Zod
I have to admit though, it's starting to get to the point where I don't want to talk to any NPCs without names. They all say the same damn thing and it's like I'm playing an 8-bit NES game again.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 06:13pm
by Losonti Tokash
Bakustra wrote:
Stark wrote:Regardless of anything else, Beth should be congratulated for actually including simple game-changing options as tick boxes. Who knew it was that easy to please everyone?

We did. But anyway, it should be encouraged in future.
Obsidian developed New Vegas, not Bethesda.
You know, those Alpha Protocol dudes. Not that I blame him, since it's not on the front of the box and barely mentioned anywhere that it's an Obsidian game.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 07:20pm
by Vympel
General Zod wrote:I have to admit though, it's starting to get to the point where I don't want to talk to any NPCs without names. They all say the same damn thing and it's like I'm playing an 8-bit NES game again.
The fact that an NPC doesn't have an actual name is a good clue in any RPG that they are not worth talking to :P

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 08:13pm
by General Zod
Vympel wrote:
General Zod wrote:I have to admit though, it's starting to get to the point where I don't want to talk to any NPCs without names. They all say the same damn thing and it's like I'm playing an 8-bit NES game again.
The fact that an NPC doesn't have an actual name is a good clue in any RPG that they are not worth talking to :P
At least ass effect had the sensibilities to not give them any talking lines at all. :P

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 09:35pm
by SirNitram
Ooo. NCR two-way emergency radio. For summoning reinforcements. Apparently, they like me alot.

Also, dear Christ does guns from Gun Runners cost alot. They're awesome, but I don't have thousands of caps!

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall

Posted: 2010-10-21 10:33pm
by LadyTevar
At least the Gun Runners sell Primers for all ammo types, which is one of the harder items to scavenge.

I'm really starting to dislike the Legion. The decimation of Nipton made me wish I could slaughter every last one of the smug bastards. (Nit tells me it wasn't decimation, as only one out of ten survived.)