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Re: Were Worfzooka during Siege of AR-558

Posted: 2011-04-10 10:35am
by Enigma
JasonB wrote:
Alyeska wrote:To remotely stay on topic. As bad a design as the Worfzooka was, it did have one thing going for it. Concussive damage. In the relatively close quarters combat that was AR-558, a couple of these could certainly have been useful for disrupting clusters of Jem'Hadar. I say clusters because there were no formations of any sort and any grouping was pure coincidence.
If the Worfzooka had real long range it is possible that they used we just did not seen it on screen. If they had able fire beyond visual and they trying lower number cut number Jem Harder that reach that chook point. We would have never even notice the different. The amount blast gave off was extreme smell and even if it had higher setting it not per say most likely great deal light when hit target and not even big bag either. While it just another possible I am adding.
And they probably had anti-matter fueled catapults that launched puppies and kittens towards the Jem'Hadar so therefore we probably didn't see it onscreen. Maybe....MAYBE, they they sent some men over to the Jemmie's camp and sang them some Celine Dion songs like "My Heart Will Go On" and watch them die, obviously we wouldn't see it onscreen due to the carnage wrought from the song.

Unless it is shown or mentioned then there is no proof of its use in that episode. :roll:

Re: Were Worfzooka during Siege of AR-558

Posted: 2011-04-10 11:33am
by PREDATOR490
When phaser rifles are SUPPOSED to have settings that can vaporise people and AOE nuke an area at longer engagement ranges in a smaller, accurate package. It seems rather pointless to have a shoulder mounted cannon that pales in comparrison.

I would lean far more to the idea that thing was basically a botched prototype that got shit canned similar to the bullet gun. Wouldnt be surprised it Worf just brought it along as part of the 'RAWR' aggression thing he was going through on the planet. Naturally Worf isnt too bright when he could have replicated an actual cannon or something with more bang... but whats new ?

Re: Were Worfzooka during Siege of AR-558

Posted: 2011-04-12 08:12am
by Rommel123
Or it was designed to shut down enemy weapons. Makes most sense, when you consider petard-level explosive force.

Re: Were Worfzooka during Siege of AR-558

Posted: 2011-04-12 11:37pm
by JasonB
Enigma wrote:
JasonB wrote:
Alyeska wrote:To remotely stay on topic. As bad a design as the Worfzooka was, it did have one thing going for it. Concussive damage. In the relatively close quarters combat that was AR-558, a couple of these could certainly have been useful for disrupting clusters of Jem'Hadar. I say clusters because there were no formations of any sort and any grouping was pure coincidence.
If the Worfzooka had real long range it is possible that they used we just did not seen it on screen. If they had able fire beyond visual and they trying lower number cut number Jem Harder that reach that chook point. We would have never even notice the different. The amount blast gave off was extreme smell and even if it had higher setting it not per say most likely great deal light when hit target and not even big bag either. While it just another possible I am adding.
And they probably had anti-matter fueled catapults that launched puppies and kittens towards the Jem'Hadar so therefore we probably didn't see it onscreen. Maybe....MAYBE, they they sent some men over to the Jemmie's camp and sang them some Celine Dion songs like "My Heart Will Go On" and watch them die, obviously we wouldn't see it onscreen due to the carnage wrought from the song.

Unless it is shown or mentioned then there is no proof of its use in that episode. :roll:
Other painful fact Jem Harder nearly over ran UFP. Form what I can see good part people wear combat UFP uniform were not being shown on screen during that time. One person and picture early part episode of them and fact just before Sisko knock out we saw Jem Harder pretty much over run starfleet defenses. Something had happen between after Sisko get knock out and before any reinforcement have arrived. So like answer for that to how battle change just after a Jem Harder foot soldier get knock out. My theory is Worfzooka but very interest other how battle change so quickly in UFP favor.

Re: Were Worfzooka during Siege of AR-558

Posted: 2011-04-13 01:06am
by Enigma
JasonB wrote:Other painful fact Jem Harder nearly over ran UFP. Form what I can see good part people wear combat UFP uniform were not being shown on screen during that time. One person and picture early part episode of them and fact just before Sisko knock out we saw Jem Harder pretty much over run starfleet defenses. Something had happen between after Sisko get knock out and before any reinforcement have arrived. So like answer for that to how battle change just after a Jem Harder foot soldier get knock out. My theory is Worfzooka but very interest other how battle change so quickly in UFP favor.
Prove it! You've bullshitted your way in ASVS and you are bullshitting your way here. Show your proof or get the fuck out of here!

Re: Were Worfzooka during Siege of AR-558

Posted: 2011-04-13 01:08pm
by PREDATOR490
JasonB wrote: Other painful fact Jem Harder nearly over ran UFP. Form what I can see good part people wear combat UFP uniform were not being shown on screen during that time. One person and picture early part episode of them and fact just before Sisko knock out we saw Jem Harder pretty much over run starfleet defenses. Something had happen between after Sisko get knock out and before any reinforcement have arrived. So like answer for that to how battle change just after a Jem Harder foot soldier get knock out. My theory is Worfzooka but very interest other how battle change so quickly in UFP favor.
The only painful fact is your continual posting of text that might as well have been put in a blender. Nevermind that you continue to post worthless bullshit without evidence except "my theory". Folks tell you otherwise and you continue to bullshit harder.

Maybe Q came down and clicked his fingers. Ironically that is more likely a situation than the idea the Federation magically conjured up a weapon system that seemed woefully ineffective and turned the tide of battle...
There is no evidence that weapon was even deployed for official use. By the reasoning that iT magically showed up ONCE, maybe the TR-116 is what magically saved the day...
Lots of Jem Hadar getting shot through walls might change the course of a battle alot quicker than using an oversized-shoulder mounted pop gun.
Spoiler
Incidentally, yes I am aware this episode took place after the Siege and the shoot-through-walls aspect was a 'new' innovation to the original design.
Alternatively, Starfleet individual realised their phasers have wide arc-settings and decided to use them at maximum setting or a stun shot from orbit knocked everyone out... cause they totally did that in TOS.

Re: Were Worfzooka during Siege of AR-558

Posted: 2011-04-14 12:25am
by Darth Fanboy
He has some classics on asvs. But if you want to keep feeding the troll by all means continue participating in these threads like there is an actual discussion.

Enigma didn't he say that the UFP could simply beam all of the MACOs they wanted onto the death star?

Re: Were Worfzooka during Siege of AR-558

Posted: 2011-04-14 01:15am
by Enigma
Darth Fanboy wrote:He has some classics on asvs. But if you want to keep feeding the troll by all means continue participating in these threads like there is an actual discussion.

Enigma didn't he say that the UFP could simply beam all of the MACOs they wanted onto the death star?
Yeah, he also said that they could kill Darth Vader.

Re: Were Worfzooka during Siege of AR-558

Posted: 2011-04-14 11:28pm
by JasonB
Rommel123 wrote:Or it was designed to shut down enemy weapons. Makes most sense, when you consider petard-level explosive force.
While starfleet seem have weapon does that it not Worfzooka it the tetryon pulse launcher.
In DS9: "Blood Oath", Klingon disruptor banks were modulated to fire tetryon particles in order to neutralize all directed energy weapons in the blast area.

Re: Were Worfzooka during Siege of AR-558

Posted: 2011-04-15 10:06pm
by Darth Fanboy
Jason what other uses could the Worfzooka have outside of its depicted usage, could Worf in a spacesuit use one to shhot down enemy shuttles or fighters?

How many MACOs with Worfzookas does it take to overrun borg cube?