Dave wrote:Could you share, Shroom? Granted this would require more lucid prose than you normally write, but I think we would all appreciate having read the results. Maybe a new topic in OffTopic, or a series of blog posts, or something?
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Maybe some legislative support from voters might be needed?
Let him land on any Lyran world to taste firsthand the wrath of peace loving people thwarted by the myopic greed of a few miserly old farts- Katrina Steiner
Depends on your age, I think. I know someone who beat lung cancer even after being pronounced terminal through a combination of horrific last-ditch experimental science and sheer lunatic force of will. But she was only 32 when she was diagnosed, so of course going full Klingon berzerk on cancer beat throwing in the towel. A year of agony bought her the rest of her life.
But man if you're like 72 and that shit comes at you? Maybe it's time to write your will and go for that thing with the motorcycle and the rocket engine that you were never quite crazy enough to try.
Old people can and do often succumb from the strains of hip replacement which the medical establishment promotes. How much more chemo.
Fun story actually, my grandma fell the other year and fractured her hip. The doctors wanted to surgerize her, but she was afraid. So we didn't go through with the surgerization. So she was in bed, and in pain, for a while but we applied this ancient Chinese bruise ointment, and after that while, she can walk fine and go to the market and haggle with people at the fish stall. Her x-rays now show her fracture as healed, and her bones didn't need to get screws screwed into it or chopped off and replaced with metal bits. Who knows if it was ancient Chinese secret medicinal tai chi sorcery, or if her body was just able to heal by itself, or if the Chinese shits helped promote circulation and allowed her body to heal better. But it was easier for her to heal like that, than it would've been for her body if she had been cut open and surgerized.
There are other ways to invasive procedures. And by their nature, invasive procedures carry all sorts of risks and the physical strain of being cut open and poked and prodded and sawed and stitched and bled, etc.
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
You know better than that. Any illness or what have you, you can have a couple people with remarkable turn around or heal in some miraculous ways. Doesn't mean the other 99.9% of people will.
They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
Knife wrote:You know better than that. Any illness or what have you, you can have a couple people with remarkable turn around or heal in some miraculous ways. Doesn't mean the other 99.9% of people will.
Yes, not all people could've healed naturally (or unnaturally with weirdo Chinese elixirs?) like my grandmother in her/their old age.
But wasn't it also part of nuersing or healthcare doctrines that the less invasive and less disruptive procedures should be done first, before resorting to more invasive procedures (drugs, operations) when it becomes necessary?
I'm not saying that people shouldn't resort to surgery. But that it's a very invasive, and stressful, process that particularly for old people would be hard. And that maybe other less-invasive methods would be tried first before that. Of course, if those other methods fail, then go surgerize.
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
Knife wrote:You know better than that. Any illness or what have you, you can have a couple people with remarkable turn around or heal in some miraculous ways. Doesn't mean the other 99.9% of people will.
Yes, not all people could've healed naturally (or unnaturally with weirdo Chinese elixirs?) like my grandmother in her/their old age.
But wasn't it also part of nuersing or healthcare doctrines that the less invasive and less disruptive procedures should be done first, before resorting to more invasive procedures (drugs, operations) when it becomes necessary?
I'm not saying that people shouldn't resort to surgery. But that it's a very invasive, and stressful, process that particularly for old people would be hard. And that maybe other less-invasive methods would be tried first before that. Of course, if those other methods fail, then go surgerize.
I have an ethical dilemma with placebos. While I'm all for anything that helps my patients 'get better' I seriously worry about things marketed in such a way as to straddle the line. Few people say 'take this elixir, it'll cure you' for legal issues, but plenty say 'take this elixir, for legal reasons it won't cure you, but for thousands of years it cured people' when all it is is a placebo. Selling people false hope is... well immoral as hell. Sure, every once in a while someone either gains some benefit from it, or despite it pulls through remarkable. And it's always trumpeted as a success for the product.But in the end it's a placebo no better or worse than a sugar pill.
I don't know, I guess I just deal with death and dying enough that it really urks me to see people gaming off of the guilt and fear of they dying or their families.
They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
I'm not talking about placebos. The main point was that her body was able to heal by itself and she was able to walk again without us having to resort to terribly invasive and strenuous cutting-person-open bone-sawing-off metal-ball-joint-replacing operation. A positive nursing/medical outcome, wherein the patient made a full recovery, was had with non-invasive non-strenuous interventions.
(The Chinese elixir, actually a bruise ointment, was just that. An ointment. For bruises. I don't think it did any real bone mending, because duh it's not a "real" drug with tested FDA shits, and it's most likely her body just healed by itself. Amongst other things we gave her were pain relievers and calcium supplements. The calcium probably helped a lot in her healing.)
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
I don't see the problem with "well, try to treat her so that the joint heals up without need for surgery," even if part of that treatment is some kind of bruise ointment that's got wacky Chinese traditional medicine stuff going on. If you've got a non-life-threatening injury that can be fixed either with surgery or by waiting for it to heal, it might be best to try letting it heal first on general principles. That's what we do with normal broken arms and legs: sure, a good orthopedic surgeon could probably go in there with screws and glue and whatnot and patch things together quickly, but it makes more sense and is less risky to just stick the thing in a cast and wait for it to grow back together on its own. Only if it looks like a sure bet to not heal, or heal crooked, would it make sense to intervene more radically.
Getting plenty of calcium and bed rest and painkillers (and optionally bruise ointment) is just part of that process.
Anyway, she was on aspirin prior to her injury and so the initially planned operation got postponed (and then later cancelled) because of the bleeding risk.
On an unrelated note, I have this uncle who took aspirin because he wasn't that well educated and thought that it would prevent heart attacks or whatever (wasn't the whole an aspirin a day thing for people who already had heart attacks?). Anyway, he fell and landed on his groin, and because of the aspirin's anti-platelet action, blood pooled into his nutsack and made his balls bloat up to the size of a huge mango.
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
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