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I say don't give him a title, since I don't think he hasn't done enough to deserve one, or at least yet. And if we do give him one, he might go on and say that he only got it for his political views, which was the case with Azeron.

I say we give Stas a custom title: Brainwashed Moron. He seems to be brainwashed by the education system (denying allied contrubutions to WWII), the current propaganda system (his views on the war in Iraq), and Putin's government (there is independant media in Russia, etc.).

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Given the rather split decision, I guess I'll pull back for now and keep quiet. Maybe I was a bit hasty, so I'll just shut up and keep debating for a while.

Just one response, not to be snippy, just answering Stas' question:

Hey, I noticed... What are you angry at? I never advised you to read anything. This post you are referring to at is adressed to Darth Fanboy.

You kept telling DF to read Zhukov, yet misintepreting (whether accidentally or deliberately I neither know nor care) the quotes I posted from him where he said Russia would not have had sufficient gunpowder to fight without American support. However, that's beyond what this thread is for, so I look forward to seeing you back in the Politics Forum. I just wish I had my books with me so I wasn't running off what I've memorized and what I can find online .

fgalkin wrote:I say we give Stas a custom title: Brainwashed Moron. He seems to be brainwashed by the education system (denying allied contrubutions to WWII), the current propaganda system (his views on the war in Iraq), and Putin's government (there is independant media in Russia, etc.).

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

I like your idea, fgalkin.

fgalkin wrote:I say we give Stas a custom title: Brainwashed Moron. He seems to be brainwashed by the education system (denying allied contrubutions to WWII), the current propaganda system (his views on the war in Iraq), and Putin's government (there is independant media in Russia, etc.).

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Sounds good to me...

As I read through this thread I came to the conclusion that I think fgalkin vote would carry a lot of wieght and that he should decide the custom title And low and behold, on the second page is his post.

I second, or third or whatever it's at, what fgalkin said.

Ill go with that.

I say we VI him, just because his name is Bush...
Other than that, I don't know

Stas Bush wrote:US was hoped to be merciful to refugees. Instead, they killed refugees by firing a missile in their bus.
Casualties of war, what can I say?

Boldtext mine.

I'd give it to him just for that. Or at least some kind of bad title. He makes it sound like they deliberately went out of their way to blast it, instead of an accident with those two sentences.

Don't know if it was the intent, but definately came across like that.

fgalkin wrote:I say we give Stas a custom title: Brainwashed Moron. He seems to be brainwashed by the education system (denying allied contrubutions to WWII)...

Read the related thread again fgalkin!

He never denied Allied contributions.
Some said the Lend-Lease program was the only reason that the Red Army managed to continue war and break the Third Reich's neck.
Stas Bush just questioned that idea...

On the other hand most of us don't agree with his opinion on the war with Iraq but that's not give us the right to call him VI.

I've read far more extreme commentaries on several important topics and those persons were not titled VI...

Sometimes the SD.net reminds me of a "science and history club" where old professors gather and argue about their point of view but none of them is open enough to accept or even think about wether the opponent's idea is right.

Most of the time we just keep swinging facts and numbers like a baseball bat and "hit" each other with them instead of seeing all the facts and numbers as a whole and then make a conclusion.

The last problem is misunderstanding the poster person's story.
In the related thread there are several cases like that.

Come on dudes, what kind of forum is that where everyone is thinking the same way?

What a f*ck should we do if we wouldn't have to argue anymore?

Argue is fuel for our brain!!!

So let Stas Bush be.

fgalkin
Back up your insult, brainwashed by the Holly tales!!!
Shit, he accuses me of being brain-washed! Maybe he'll also say that I support the Russian policies in Chechnya or post-war Germany. Wow... I can't stand those insults.
I don't insult people for nothing. You claimed:

He seems to be brainwashed by the education system (denying allied contrubutions to WWII)

I can't help saying this... Sorry... YOU IDIOT, I STUDIED THE WHOLE WWII CASE ON MYSELF USING FUCKING AMERICAN, GERMAN AND BRITISH BOOKS. Fuck, I hate when someone lies without any sence...

the current propaganda system (his views on the war in Iraq)

One more time: you may go to hell, it's not the propaganda it's the fucking UN and INTERNATIONAL RIGHT, the first principle INDEPENDENCE... ;(

and Putin's government (there is independant media in Russia, etc.).

Another lie. Fucker, I said I disagree with Chechnya policy although it's not illegal... Liar.
And above all else, there is independent media in Russia. NTV was fucked but there is a shitload of programs and the TV6 which fuck ANYTHING Putin said...

I GOT TIRED OF LIES. Take some time, look what I say. Not just insult me like fgalkin did.

Enough flames. Stas Bush doesn't deserve a VI (that and other titles of its ilk is reserved for assholes who won't debate properly), I think that this thread has no further purpose. Locked.