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Funny. Brian Daley made a fun and believable setting that carried the same 'feel' of Star Wars I got with the Prequels in the Han Solo novels. No Jedi at all.

Aaron Allston managed to tell some great stories in SW without resorting to Jedi/Sith being involved significantly too.

Trying to tie down Star wars to 'one thing' and then repeating ad nauseum is part of the problem with the setting, its not the recipie for success, unless that 'successs' is 'bleed franchise slaves of all their money.' In that respect its succeeded brilliantly.

That's why Hav and I had a chat once about how not only should there be no Jedi, but following the Empire people shouldn't even REMEMBER the Jedi. Luke should fart around as a space hobo trying to find redemption and heal a galaxy that forgot not only his religion but the horror it bought about. The people trying to rebuild a society after ROTJ should have to deal with the kind of problems that resonate today, like nation-building and terrorism, centralism vs federalism, crime and punishment, race and creed pressures, etc. The movies could be exceptionally relevant to contemporary times and at the same time have a literal Jesus present in the narrative trying to create a better future with his unknowable powers while the galaxy he can't let himself help is in all kinds of peril.

The Romulan Republic wrote:I don't want the Empire to exist after Return of the Jedi. Having the same villain is repetitive and the war dragging on is anti-climactic.

But conflict would continue. The Rebellion was to small to be able to control the entire galaxy immediately. So after the Empire collapses the galaxy would probably be divided between the New Republic and a bunch of little factions, at least some of whom would probably be belligerent.

Most of these factions probably wouldn't be strong enough to be a major threat to the New Republic, although Kuat probably would be if they use the EU's depiction of it.

Hmm...this would meant the rebellions wasn't able to re-capture the Galaxy despite having defeated the empire 30 years ago.

Darksider wrote:I think "treatments" is code-word for "shit Lucas scribbled on a cocktail napkin while he was making Episode IV."

I'm sure he had some basic idea of maybe doing 9 movies at some point, but that obviously went out the window with RotJ. Whatever these "treatments" are, they're probably from the period before Lucas decided to kill the Emperor in RotJ, which means they probably won't hold up well.

Usually, the things that survive from a rough draft/story treatment into a filming script is the overall plot and themes. You can still tell the same story while updating it for a more modern audience.

ray245 wrote:

Darksider wrote:I think "treatments" is code-word for "shit Lucas scribbled on a cocktail napkin while he was making Episode IV."

I'm sure he had some basic idea of maybe doing 9 movies at some point, but that obviously went out the window with RotJ. Whatever these "treatments" are, they're probably from the period before Lucas decided to kill the Emperor in RotJ, which means they probably won't hold up well.

Usually, the things that survive from a rough draft/story treatment into a filming script is the overall plot and themes. You can still tell the same story while updating it for a more modern audience.

I thought this was an interesting article regarding the sequel trilogy and the so-called "treatments."

The Complete History of the Sequel Trilogy: Episodes VII, VIII and IX