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That one's a gem between "Death to the opposition!" and O'Brien's scotch-flavored chewing gum.

Of all 5 shows, DS9 always did the best with comedy and humor, IMO.

Gandalf wrote:I'll champion the episode Badda Bing, Badda Bang. It was a more lighthearted, fun episode, which was a pleasant change from everyone trying to out grimdark one another.

The crew rob a make believe 1960s casino. What's to dislike?

That, and it's one of the few holodeck mishap episodes where it actually makes logical sense that physically unplugging the stupid thing isn't an option (in this case because the holodeck program is working exactly as intended by its programmer, albeit not by the cast). DS9 in general was a lot better about the holodeck than any of the other series.

EDIT: I liked "Our Man Bashir" for that reason, too, as well as the fact that it's a great double act between Julian and Garak. Avery Brooks' deliciously hammy performance as Doctor Noah was just icing on the cake.

What was the episode where they go back in time to "The Trouble with Tribbles"? That certainly was a good somewhat light-hearted episode stuck somewhere in the Dominion War story arc.

Wing Commander MAD wrote:What was the episode where they go back in time to "The Trouble with Tribbles"? That certainly was a good somewhat light-hearted episode stuck somewhere in the Dominion War story arc.

"Trials and Tribble-ations", and yes, that was hilarious. Especially the part where the two Temporal Investigations guys start complaining about Kirk's rap sheet. Also, the part where Ben admits to having inserted himself into the old timeline so he could talk to Kirk, and then the DTI guy basically waves it off with "Eh, I'd've done the same."

I just admire the very good way the DS9 footage was mixed in with the TOS stuff. And O'Brien's reaction at realising "I just lied to Captain Kirk!"

Eternal_Freedom wrote:I just admire the very good way the DS9 footage was mixed in with the TOS stuff. And O'Brien's reaction at realising "I just lied to Captain Kirk!"

And my favorite Odo line of the entire series:

"Tell me, do they still sing songs of 'The Great Tribble Hunt'?"

It's the way Rene Auberjonois delivered that line which cracks me up every time.

Damnit. Gotta start a DS9 marathon now.

I know it's bandwagon jumping, but Garak and Dukat really elevated any scene they were in. And the scenes they shared were truly something to behold. And it ended up being a coup for the show when they had Weyoun become a semi-regular to play off of Dukat.

That bit in The Die is Cast where Garak tortures Odo and finally breaks him still gives me shivers.

JME2 wrote:

Eternal_Freedom wrote:I just admire the very good way the DS9 footage was mixed in with the TOS stuff. And O'Brien's reaction at realising "I just lied to Captain Kirk!"

And my favorite Odo line of the entire series:

"Tell me, do they still sing songs of 'The Great Tribble Hunt'?"

It's the way Rene Auberjonois delivered that line which cracks me up every time.

I also like how they admitted that the difference between the smooth-forehead Klingons and modern Klingons is not simply a matter of makeup budget.

Like Chuck (I think) I would have really liked it if Worf had a smooth forehead while in the past and nobody commented on it.

NeoGoomba wrote:I know it's bandwagon jumping, but Garak and Dukat really elevated any scene they were in. And the scenes they shared were truly something to behold. And it ended up being a coup for the show when they had Weyoun become a semi-regular to play off of Dukat.

And then later Damar. Biggs and Combs also played off each other well and it helped sell Damar's growing discontent with the alliance.

The decision to clone the Vorta so as to bring back Combs (following his death in Season 4) was also one of the smartest decisions in the entire show.

IIRC, part of the reason the Vorta weren't used much after their introduction was that Behr wasn't happy with the acting choices and that it

Combs being cast salvaged the Vorta -- and led to one of my all-time favorite Trek villains.

I recently rewatched 'A Time to Stand', which, aside from driving home how badly the war was going, gave us a delicious scene where Dukat calls Kira to his office and tries to... well... impress her, I suppose. He somehow thinks (probably the result of his huge ego) that Kira should fall to her knees in admiration of him, and somehow can't sense the boiling anger radiating off Kira, that only gets worse the more Dukat speaks. Great scene.

Then there's his 'why isn't there a statue of me on Bajor?' remarks to Weyoun in 'Sacrifice of Angels'.

darth_timon wrote:Then there's his 'why isn't there a statue of me on Bajor?' remarks to Weyoun in 'Sacrifice of Angels'.

I love the look Weyoun's giving Dukat as that scene goes on.

It's like the Vorta's finally realizing that Dukat has an ego the size of a spiral galaxy.

JME2 wrote:

darth_timon wrote:Then there's his 'why isn't there a statue of me on Bajor?' remarks to Weyoun in 'Sacrifice of Angels'.

I love the look Weyoun's giving Dukat as that scene goes on.

It's like the Vorta's finally realizing that Dukat has an ego the size of a spiral galaxy.

Well he explained the look directly.


D: [picks up the baseball and stares at it in his hand] "Take Captain Sisko. An otherwise intelligent, perceptive man, mm?"

W: Nods with his eyes

D: "Even he refuses to grant me the respect [lets the ball drop from his fingers] I deserve."

W: Heh heh.

D: You find that amusing?"

W: "Not at all. [laughing] I find it it ... ...[lip tries to form a word, he's unsure exactly what he's thinking] ... fascinating [laughing]"

JME2 wrote:That one's a gem between "Death to the opposition!" and O'Brien's scotch-flavored chewing gum.

Of all 5 shows, DS9 always did the best with comedy and humor, IMO.

I also keenly remember Nog trying to tag a Vulcan and Worf bellowing 'find him and kill him!' Not to mention Rom somehow being responsible for injuring Worf...

True.

I wonder if Weyoun realized at that point that Dukat would have to be eliminated in the long run lest he cause trouble for the Dominion war effort.

Of course, ensuing events removed Dukat from that aspect of the playing field, so it didn't really matter.

JME2 wrote:True.

I wonder if Weyoun realized at that point that Dukat would have to be eliminated in the long run lest he cause trouble for the Dominion war effort.

Of course, ensuing events removed Dukat from that aspect of the playing field, so it didn't really matter.

I often wondered, had the reinforcements successfully reached the Alpha Quadrant, how much would the Dominion really need Cardassia? They were useful in the short-term as a beach head, but would they have any long-term use?

It might be seen as wasteful to destroy them, and it may well send the wrong message to the rest of the Alpha Quadrant, but who knows?

I think it was alluded to several times that the Cardassians were to eventually end up as subjects of the Dominion, similar to the races in the Gamma quadrant.

Borgholio wrote:I think it was alluded to several times that the Cardassians were to eventually end up as subjects of the Dominion, similar to the races in the Gamma quadrant.

Diane Carrey's novelization of the initial DW arc had Dukar acknowledge this problem to Damar.

She also had an implication that Dukat was deliberately taking his time with dismantling the minefield so as to give the Cardassian military time to rebuild itself.

NeoGoomba wrote:That bit in The Die is Cast where Garak tortures Odo and finally breaks him still gives me shivers.

Great scene.

Havok wrote:

NeoGoomba wrote:That bit in The Die is Cast where Garak tortures Odo and finally breaks him still gives me shivers.

Great scene.

I've always loved the final scene in Garak's shop.

Aside from the acting, the staging's great so that you only see Odo's darkened reflection in the mirror.

I wish DS9's producers had been given the chance to fully realise their vision. S3 was supposed to introduce Founders to earth and the Klingon arc in S4 wasn't really supposed to happen. Apparently it set the writers back by a year on their planned ideas.

darth_timon wrote:I wish DS9's producers had been given the chance to fully realise their vision. S3 was supposed to introduce Founders to earth and the Klingon arc in S4 wasn't really supposed to happen. Apparently it set the writers back by a year on their planned ideas.

With the Alternate Reality, I expect to see DS9 revisited somewhere down the road.

And the Klingon arc, while throwing the show off balance, ultimately worked out in the long run:

1. DS9 Worf is much more interesting than TNG Worf.

2. The continuation and expansion of TNG's Klingon Politics arc -- leading to a fitting end during the close of DS9.

3. The invasion came flowed naturally from what had come before (the destruction of the Obsidian Order) and came back to haunt everyone in Season 5.

4. Martok!

JME2 wrote:

darth_timon wrote:I wish DS9's producers had been given the chance to fully realise their vision. S3 was supposed to introduce Founders to earth and the Klingon arc in S4 wasn't really supposed to happen. Apparently it set the writers back by a year on their planned ideas.

With the Alternate Reality, I expect to see DS9 revisited somewhere down the road.

And the Klingon arc, while throwing the show off balance, ultimately worked out in the long run:

1. DS9 Worf is much more interesting than TNG Worf.

2. The continuation and expansion of TNG's Klingon Politics arc -- leading to a fitting end during the close of DS9.

3. The invasion came flowed naturally from what had come before (the destruction of the Obsidian Order) and came back to haunt everyone in Season 5.

4. Martok!

Each point is very true!

Am watching 'Dax' now. Interesting legal situation- is the host responsible for the symbiote?

Yeah,

#4's my personal favorite (Martok!), but I like #2 equally.

The Klingon Politics arc kinda petered out on TNG and was never really resolved (well, resolved enough, but there was potential for more).

And I just love how far Worf had come since "Sins of the Father" by the time we go into his final confrontation with Gowron.

In TNG, he had been willing to tolerate corruption on the Empire's government for the good of the Empire. Now, he finally took a stand against it -- and killed the very man he'd put into power in the first place.

I do love me some dramatic irony.