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Re: Super Bowl XLIX

Posted: 2015-02-02 11:05pm
by Ziggy Stardust
Flagg wrote: I'm sure you were doing that every time Brady had the ball. Did your SO add weight to the scrotum ring every time an interception was thrown?
Hey, good thing she didn't add weight every time a touchdown was thrown, because it turned out there were way more of those! Who knew.
Highlord Laan wrote: The moment the Pats got caught cheating again should have disqualified them from game. If the NFL had any integrity, that is.
You mean the whole thing where only one football was actually found to be deflated, and it was replaced by halftime (after which the Patriots only scored 28 points)?

In other words, nothing happened, get over it. You don't like the Patriots, but they were the better team.

Re: Super Bowl XLIX

Posted: 2015-02-02 11:13pm
by Flagg
Ziggy Stardust wrote:
Flagg wrote: I'm sure you were doing that every time Brady had the ball. Did your SO add weight to the scrotum ring every time an interception was thrown?
Hey, good thing she didn't add weight every time a touchdown was thrown, because it turned out there were way more of those! Who knew.
Highlord Laan wrote: The moment the Pats got caught cheating again should have disqualified them from game. If the NFL had any integrity, that is.
You mean the whole thing where only one football was actually found to be deflated, and it was replaced by halftime (after which the Patriots only scored 28 points)?

In other words, nothing happened, get over it. You don't like the Patriots, but they were the better team.
Yeah... No. They are past and current cheaters who got lucky that the offensive coordinator for the Seahawks and Russel Wilson are both apparently THAT stupid.

Re: Super Bowl XLIX

Posted: 2015-02-02 11:59pm
by Flagg
http://www.thenation.com/blog/196697/co ... socialflow#

This explains a lot, but I'd need a lot more evidence to buy into it. Still, it "sounds right" for the Seahawks to me. But again, needs more evidence.

Re: Super Bowl XLIX

Posted: 2015-02-03 12:25am
by Thanas
C'mon man. Let this patriot stuff go, its unhealthy to dwell on it and doesn't really matter.

Re: Super Bowl XLIX

Posted: 2015-02-03 02:28am
by GuppyShark
Flagg wrote:http://www.thenation.com/blog/196697/co ... socialflow#

This explains a lot, but I'd need a lot more evidence to buy into it. Still, it "sounds right" for the Seahawks to me. But again, needs more evidence.
Eh, coaches outsmarting themselves by not wanting to call the obvious play has been happening forever.

Re: Super Bowl XLIX

Posted: 2015-02-03 07:32am
by LaCroix
I thought it was simple - everyone knew that Lynch would have been the first choice, and they would have thrown everything including the kitchen sink at him to stop that - which might have caused the clock to run out - there were only 20 seconds left. So they tried a trick, and held Lynch in reserve for 2nd or 3rd... The intercept was as lucky as their own almost incomplete/fumbled/caught catch that brought them to the endzone.

I thought it almost karmically just that their huge luck was negated by a lucky intercept.

To me, (not having any team preferences) the Patriots were clearly the better team. They were consistent, steady in their advance, and their defence almost always had a hand on the ball at each pass. A wonder they didn't have more intercepts. They were almost German in their play style - a short pass to gain 10-12 yards. Stop. Repeat. Include an occassionl trick to confuse the Seahawks. They made turnover after turnover, only stopped when there was a brief moment of brilliance within the Seahawk defence.

Seahaws were all over the field - their drives were routinely stopped with an almost boring routine, only Lynch seemed to be a way to gain any room. Time and again, they had a small bink of brilliance when one of their wagers paid off by the skin of their teeth, and they gained 50 yards in one lucky pass or rush. But they only made progress by random events, I never had the feeling they had any strategy beyond "try getting a lucky long pass, or in doubt, send Lynch".

Re: Super Bowl XLIX

Posted: 2015-02-03 09:55am
by Thanas
Thing is though, the clock would not have run out. They had a timeout to stop it if necessary. Besides, at that distance, you could just as well sneak it three times and it would work in the vast majority of cases.

Re: Super Bowl XLIX

Posted: 2015-02-03 10:00am
by Ziggy Stardust
Flagg wrote: Yeah... No. They are past and current cheaters
Prove they are current cheaters. The weight of evidence in this farce of a "deflategate" scandal is against the Patriots having done anything wrong. You know, what with the fact that the league didn't actually measure the balls before the game anyway, only one ball was found to be slightly underinflated, and that ball was removed from the game by halftime, after which the Patriots played BETTER.
Flagg wrote: who got lucky that the offensive coordinator for the Seahawks and Russel Wilson are both apparently THAT stupid.
Of course, you can also say that the Seahawks were incredibly lucky to even be in that 2nd and goal situation what with the insanely unlikely "catch" made a couple of plays earlier, when a ball managed to bounce off of two separate people's hands, and then one person's feet, and then his hands again, and somehow falling basically right on top of him.

If you really want to appeal to luck, you can't cherry pick the one part of the game that you have sour grapes over. Football games are always decided by a large quantity of luck one way or the other. The Seahawks were lucky that the Packers are coached by an incompetent moron who literally handed them the game. The Patriots were lucky to get past the Ravens. And so on and so forth.

Seriously, get the fuck over it. Your life will be a whole lot better if you just accept when the team you dislike wins and move on with your life, instead of desperately grasping to moronic conspiracy theories and whining about bad luck.

Re: Super Bowl XLIX

Posted: 2015-02-03 10:51pm
by Flagg
Ziggy Stardust wrote:
Flagg wrote: Yeah... No. They are past and current cheaters
Prove they are current cheaters. The weight of evidence in this farce of a "deflategate" scandal is against the Patriots having done anything wrong. You know, what with the fact that the league didn't actually measure the balls before the game anyway, only one ball was found to be slightly underinflated, and that ball was removed from the game by halftime, after which the Patriots played BETTER.
Flagg wrote: who got lucky that the offensive coordinator for the Seahawks and Russel Wilson are both apparently THAT stupid.
Of course, you can also say that the Seahawks were incredibly lucky to even be in that 2nd and goal situation what with the insanely unlikely "catch" made a couple of plays earlier, when a ball managed to bounce off of two separate people's hands, and then one person's feet, and then his hands again, and somehow falling basically right on top of him.

If you really want to appeal to luck, you can't cherry pick the one part of the game that you have sour grapes over. Football games are always decided by a large quantity of luck one way or the other. The Seahawks were lucky that the Packers are coached by an incompetent moron who literally handed them the game. The Patriots were lucky to get past the Ravens. And so on and so forth.

Seriously, get the fuck over it. Your life will be a whole lot better if you just accept when the team you dislike wins and move on with your life, instead of desperately grasping to moronic conspiracy theories and whining about bad luck.
What a cowardly fuckface to respond knowing a mod just told me to stop talking about the Patriots. :lol:

Re: Super Bowl XLIX

Posted: 2015-02-07 08:00am
by Havok
Keep in mind the Seahawks ran a ton of time off the clock. They didn't have to have only 20 seconds, they chose too.
Worst Playcall in the History of Superbowls and Championship Games. Worst QB Decision in the History of the Superbowl and Championship Games. Forever. End of story. Most heartbreaking loss too. Used to be the Bills, maybe the Bengals. Possibily even the Rams or my Niners. Now, absolutely this, hands down. 3 downs, a timeout and Marshawn Fucking Beast Mode Lynch from the one. Come the fuck on.

Everyone from Robert Kraft down to the Patriots towel boy thought they were about to lose. EVERYONE. Except Pete Caroll, Darell Bevel and Russell Wilson. Just fucking wow. A week later and still... wow.

That said, that was THE Interception. Amazing defensive play. The break he got on that ball was perfect. He knew it was coming. I'll never proclaim Brady the GOAT, but Belichick? Make a case against him.

Congratulations you annoying fucking Patriots fans. At least you aren't Pittsburgh.

Re: Super Bowl XLIX

Posted: 2015-02-07 08:53am
by Ziggy Stardust
Flagg wrote: What a cowardly fuckface to respond knowing a mod just told me to stop talking about the Patriots. :lol:
I actually hadn't seen Thanas' post at all when I wrote that.

Re: Super Bowl XLIX

Posted: 2015-02-07 04:39pm
by Flagg
Ziggy Stardust wrote:
Flagg wrote: What a cowardly fuckface to respond knowing a mod just told me to stop talking about the Patriots. :lol:
I actually hadn't seen Thanas' post at all when I wrote that.
All is cool then. :) :P :lol: