That Girl Again, dammit... don't read if you get bored easy

[jenat-lai]

keep doing that don't I. hmm...

Yes Innerbrat bought the subject up first, and the end of IB's post was pretty much the point... I just responded to Boba Fett's post first because I guess I liked his wording better... I skimmed after the scentence about this guys penis size, and seemed to relate the second half of the post more to Boba fett. something like that.

I didn't sleep a damned wink last night kept thinking about it and her, and what I would say to her now if I was to meet her, and making plans on doing just that... Problem is I'v got a pilot's exam today too part of it is practical, so I'm not going to be in best form for that unfortunatley

[Alex Moon]

I sorta know how you're feeling as I'm in a similar situation myself, but not nearly as bad.

I agree with what some others have said, it's probably for the best that you not get in the middle of this situation. I would suggest talking to your friend. Make it clear that you consider her a friend, and that it's not your place to get involved with her love life. That said, you do have some concerns about the guy, at which point you relate the story you've just told us, and that you just hope that she's being careful.

[jenat-lai]

Alex Moon, that's about the best advice I'v heard so far I think... thank you so much. I know she's generally reasonable a girl, and I actually came up with a conclusion pretty much identical. Unfortunatley it took me all night to figure out... well I think i figured it out about 2:30am and spent the rest of the time roleplaying it in my mind to see what would happen... so far I think it will work.. it will at the very least re-establish our friendship, and if I do it right, will let her see that I'm actually concerned about her, rather than being just selfish about it. Yes... I can't do it today, and I know it will eat away at me untill I do it, but with Easter coming up... I think that's a good time.

[EmperorMing]

Hey! Remember, what goes around, comes around. Those two will get theirs...

On another note, your supposed 'friend' was probably saying this stuff within earshot of you to start some shite. Totally wrong if you considered him a friend. I heartily recommend some payback on your part. Nothing illegal, mind you ...

What are you talking about?

It was his friends boyfriend who said all those things! That guy is not a friend of jenat-lai...

Oops!! Misread that a bit. Thanks for pointing it out.

[His Divine Shadow]

Boba Fett is wise... I have decided what I shall do next time.

I dunno, given how she's treated you, I would really just ignore the whole thing and move on, she's deep in her own mess now and it's not your fault.

Edit:
Well if you really really like her that much, go ahead, but I think you're being too nice a person to her really.

Edit again:
Ofcourse the guy is an asshole so you could really beat him up based on that merit alone.

[Boba Fett]

Boba Fett is wise... I have decided what I shall do next time.

[cough COUGH] sorry, who's the wise one who siad exactly the same thing in the post BEFORE Mr. Fett?

Sorry, I didn't want to repeat you!

I read jenat-lai's story and immidiately pushed the reply button.

Just to make your soul feeling better I hereby rename you to Innerbrat the Wise! (sounds like an elfen sage' name )

Now that has been solved so let's get back and find a solution to the problem, shall we?

[CRUCIBLE]

Its only honourful to defend the innocent.

Be sure about her before you listen to the more violate advices.

[Rye]

Hit the guy really hard on the back of the head, make sure he doesnt know it was you...it'll be hella funny.

[jenat-lai]

April 18; 1pm Australian Eastern Standard Time

I'm driving to basair, and I decide I want to tell everyone that I'm going to go for my presolo exam test... so I send an sms to 4 of my friends, her included

"Hey everyone, I'm going flying today and for my pre solo test... might be flying by myself today, wheels up at 15;00. Happy easter every1"

big mistake... for I get a from a new number that sais:

Mate, <girls boyfriend> here Can you stop messgng <girl>? she doesnt feel the same way about things as you do and shes gettin worried about all these mesgs you send her. cool it eh!

When I read that message I get thrown into an outright rage of defensiveness... I know my flight instructor sais to detatch yourself from your personal life before you fly and keep problems on the ground, out of the cockpit. But I simply couldn't let that slide...

I Sent one very defensive and cutting message back feeling what I can only discribe as rage... I stop the car then, just 3 blocks away from my flight school, inside the airport grounds... then ring the guys mobile number... it makes a strange beeping noise and can't connect... I then ring a friend who is a friend of this guy, and give him an earfull "Get <name removed> to ring me... like now... asap.. I'v got a solo exam in like 10 minutes, and the *rude word* just smsd me with some very out of line information"

then I send this guy (her Boyfriend) a message

"She hate me or something eh? whats one or 2 sms a month between friends huh!" (I had a half a mind to put rude words at the end of that but didnt

reply

"No she doesn't hate you at all, She just thinks you like her, thats all and she doesnt know how to tell you that shes not interested"

I text

"Well then whats 'all these messages' about then, last time I smsd was march 27. I just wanna be her friend mate. i dont buy this 'friends but never talk ever' idea at all"

and then "Ring me NOW I dont have time for this smsing I'm going on a solo flight very soon. sort this issue out quick"

he sends 2 sms's in quick succession,

"ce Flying lesson"

and

"There arnt any issues to discus:"

I reply

"apparently there are if she wont talk to a friend"

then I finally get a response I'm looking for

"Fair enough, I am happy for you then. She was worried that you wantd something else from her more than a friendship thats all. I will tell her how u feel ok.

I say "Thank you mate. if she or u want to ring me I'm flying from 2 - 5"

he sais

"No problem buddy. Have a good flight!"

What do we make of this now? Situation is suddently looking quite different than it was before...


(on a side note, I didn't go solo... but I did pass the exam. weather was wind at 160 20knots gusting 30 (runways at the airport are ruwnay 11 and 29... so a crosswind of 15 up to 25 knots... cloud ceiling 2000ft with scattered rainshowers starting to appear; too crappy windy and rough for first solo, but went up with the instructor to a different airport (with a runway 16) to shoot some approaches in the high winds... gona do the solo next saturday instead weather permitting)

[Boba Fett]

Seems to me the only one who wasn't sure about your feelings for the girl was Antonio, her new boyfriend.

It's quite strange that you had/have a friendship with Claire and she asked her boyfriend to ask about the matter in an sms...

I think Claire didn't even read your message. Antonio picked up the phone, read your sms and erased it.

...and since he is a stupid, jealous, sick fuck, he asked those questions from you, just to be sure you're not a competitor.

Ring Claire, ask her to meet you personally and discuss the whole situation in a quiet place.

...and good luck for your solo test!!!

[InnerBrat]

Huh.

I'm beginning to think a lot of her 'btichy' behaviour in the last thread might be becasue of her evil boyfriend.

Next time you get into a fight like that, SMS her phone again, and tell her what he's been saying behind her back. Do that soon, though, else you'll have to let it slide.

[jenat-lai]

Yeah, now that you mention it, that scenario does make sense. It ceartainly wouldn't be the first time thats happened with a boyfriend of an ex. last time though I'd only known the girl a few weeks before we went out... not years... like this case. And even in that case, when I rang her she said sorry, but her bf had had her phone and she didn't even know I'd messaged her... I agree that this is a likley probability in this event also. but the last guy just abused me... This guy actually said he'd talk to her about it... or at least implied so. I'd like to give him the benifit of the doubt...

Another complication is this:

On Monday I fly out of Sydney on an orchestal tour to Regional and Outback Australia, and am away for 5 days. (till friday) so I won't have any way to contact anyone involved here till I get back... travelling with 60 people all musitians... one of whom is this girls best friends sister. Aah, and this orchestras just lost all it's good string players, leaving a brass and woodwind section with an average age of 20, and a string section with an average age of 16. and some 15 year olds in the First violins. Most of them, girl in question included, dropped out at the end of last year for a new Youth orchestra which last year impressed people with a very high standard of performance... I found this out yesterday:


Shmitee says:
guess who's joined sbs
jenat-lai sais:
who?
Shmitee says:
whats her face, antonios girly
jenat-lai sais:
cle (edit: this is her nickname)
Shmitee says:
<her full first name> ? (ie Xxxxxx?)
jenat-lai says:
yueh
jenat-lai says:
I'll have to talk to her about that.
jenat-lai says:
yeah
Shmitee says:
lol
jenat-lai says:
I'll have to talk to her about anything



This implies she joined only reicently... ie in the last week or two... not that I blame her... it's a good orchestra, and she's a good player... I'd join it too, But the way to get into that orchestra is very strange and mysterious, it's all about who you know first, then your skill second. Their audition process is this, and has been discribed to me by some people I know in that orchestra. They have 'talent scouts' who float around at various youth orchestra concerts, and chamber group concerts at the universities. They then have a list... they need such and such of what instrument. they then pick out the ones they like and approach them at the end of a concert, or have some of their orchestral members approach them, and then they ask you to join... if you say yes, your in. if you say no, they'l ask you again in a few months, untill that position is filled with someone they want there. so it's not an orchestra I'm likley to get into, since I'v been on the scene for a whyle, and havn't been asked... unlike the SYO orchestra which holds legitimate auditions every year and pick the best in the auditions. Remember uni students often don't come to auditions... particularly if you have to pay for the 'privelage' of an audition... therefore SYO seems to be left to pick the best, from what's left over after SBS and AYO have taken their choices. All of the SYO people from when I first joined, at least in the string section. have left. but since that's now got nothing to do with the girl, I'll stop here... The girl being my friend is more important than me being in such and such an orchestra, or even an orchestra with her. so lets stay focoussed and get my friend back eh...

[jenat-lai]

Huh.

I'm beginning to think a lot of her 'btichy' behaviour in the last thread might be becasue of her evil boyfriend.

Next time you get into a fight like that, SMS her phone again, and tell her what he's been saying behind her back. Do that soon, though, else you'll have to let it slide.

I was thinking this all along... she's never been a bitch before... actually she's always been one of the far more agreeable people in my life for near 4 years... even before we were close friends, she was by far the most understanding person I'd ever encountered. I remember being at a concert in 1999 of Verdi's requiem, and one of the trumpeters who was on 1st was giving me crap... for good reason I might add... and she came up and defended me, when I didn't really deserve it... and during the break between rehersal and concert, she came up to me and was talking to me for ages... one of her friends came up to her and demanded something or other, and she said "wait" to her friend, and then she touched my arm and said, "I'm sorry but I have to talk to her for a moment, don't go away!" and then she talked to her friend for a whyle, and came back rather flustered looking and with a slightly reddened face and sort of sighed and said "oh, well... where were we again?" and I looked at her eyes, and fell in love right there and then... though didn't do anything about it for over 2 years. we were just friends for quite long after that... including a tour to Albury which I think iv discribed before in previous thread. Yeah, I was a friend who was in love with her... for 2 years.

[jenat-lai]

Some interesting new Assets have been developed on the tour... One girl was asian, and apparently a good friend of hers... dressed alot like her actually (not the photo, just the glamour/expensive taste type) and I was talking to her on an 8 hour busride like non-stop... yay.

[Zaia]

Sweet! Just so long as this friend isn't so much like the girl in question that you're using her as a replacement, that's fabulous news!

[jenat-lai]

Sweet! Just so long as this friend isn't so much like the girl in question that you're using her as a replacement,

damn. To be honest... yes... I just saw my ex in her... I know I did. In fact thats why I started talking to her. I didn't even know they were friends before Tuesday. I just noticed she looked something like her, just more, asian, and less Irish... damn.

[jenat-lai]

On Monday I fly out of Sydney on an orchestal tour to Regional and Outback Australia, and am away for 5 days. (till friday) so I won't have any way to contact anyone involved here till I get back... travelling with 60 people all musitians... one of whom is this girls best friends sister. Aah, and this orchestras just lost all it's good string players, leaving a brass and woodwind section with an average age of 20, and a string section with an average age of 16. and some 15 year olds in the First violins. Most of them, girl in question included, dropped out at the end of last year for a new Youth orchestra which last year impressed people with a very high standard of performance... I found this out yesterday:


Shmitee says:
guess who's joined sbs
jenat-lai sais:
who?
Shmitee says:
whats her face, antonios girly
jenat-lai sais:
cle (edit: this is her nickname)
Shmitee says:
Claire
jenat-lai says:
yueh
jenat-lai says:
I'll have to talk to her about that.
jenat-lai says:
yeah
Shmitee says:
lol
jenat-lai says:
I'll have to talk to her about anything



This implies she joined only reicently... ie in the last week or two... not that I blame her... it's a good orchestra, and she's a good player... I'd join it too, But the way to get into that orchestra is very strange and mysterious, it's all about who you know first, then your skill second. Their audition process is this, and has been discribed to me by some people I know in that orchestra. They have 'talent scouts' who float around at various youth orchestra concerts, and chamber group concerts at the universities. They then have a list... they need such and such of what instrument. they then pick out the ones they like and approach them at the end of a concert, or have some of their orchestral members approach them, and then they ask you to join... if you say yes, your in. if you say no, they'l ask you again in a few months, untill that position is filled with someone they want there. so it's not an orchestra I'm likley to get into, since I'v been on the scene for a whyle, and havn't been asked... unlike the SYO orchestra which holds legitimate auditions every year and pick the best in the auditions. Remember uni students often don't come to auditions... particularly if you have to pay for the 'privelage' of an audition... therefore SYO seems to be left to pick the best, from what's left over after SBS and AYO have taken their choices. All of the SYO people from when I first joined, at least in the string section. have left. but since that's now got nothing to do with the girl, I'll stop here... The girl being my friend is more important than me being in such and such an orchestra, or even an orchestra with her. so lets stay focoussed and get my friend back eh...

New info... I have a chance to be in SBS orchestra now. Oh fun... playing in the same section (ie brass) from Antonio the new boyfriend... 2 metres away from it... err... him. and about 10 metres away from Cle herself.

Shmitee says:
guess what?
pilot says:
what?
Shmitee says:
You may be doing a few gigs with sbs this year
pilot says:
ooh
pilot says:
ooh...
Shmitee says:
in the next couple of week simon wants u to come in and audition
pilot:
ok. roger that.
Shmitee says:
and it may be possible that u might be doing mahler 5, but if not there are still other things which u'll be needed for
pilot says:
nice
Shmitee says:
thought u'd like that
pilot says:
yeah
Shmitee says:
so I'll keep u informed with what u need to do
Trent. Pilot Log: 11.1hrs Returned from YPAD says:
okkie.
Shmitee says:
but yeah expect to come in and play for them in a couple of weeks

[aphexmonster]

Heh, i've given up on relashonships completely. IM destined to be lonely forever

[jenat-lai]

I wrote a poem today sort of 'to' her....


My Heart Breaks for You

I Saw you today. Only it wasnt you
I'v been missing you so much. I see you wherever I go,
But today I felt at once adoration for you and fear
The heart in a flurry, a panicked rush.
Felt the heart beat quicker, but more anguishing than the rush of exhiluration.

Someone else, you, yet not you, but like you in almost every way.
Her conversation was you, her manner was you, her physique was you
even her voice was you.
How I miss you so much!

My Heart Breaks for you.

Where is the Girl I loved and lost
Who has replaced her? and where did she go?
I love you more than I have ever told
I need to hold you, whisper your name;
I love you I love you I love you.

My Heart Breaks for you.

I need not the passion of love and romance
nor even the attention singulaire and love strong
I ask only that I remain part of your life
And forever be it known that you are my greatest friend.
In life they say youv found true love, when truth is found that
One cannot live without another

My Heart Breaks for you.

Did I ever know you in truth?
Or was it all fantasy?
Is the Girl I love the girl you were once? Or
the Girl I once loved, but never you were.
But the girl you are now, I love by default.
(please don't misinterpret the word love, it remains many different things)
Do I know you at all, Have you hidden yourself from me?
I want to know you more, for

My Heart Breaks for you.

To let live and let go, I have faith in you
I ask not for romance or romantic love
I ask only this, that we remain friends
'cos I found I could not at all
Live without you.

[weemadando]

Wooo!

The SDnet angst poetry continues!

Nice poem man.

[jenat-lai]

Thanks. Depression and heartbreak is pretty good at making one poeticize

[aphexmonster]

Cool poem. I write, but i haven't in a while.

[Stampede]

off the topic here, but put some music to your poem. it has the potential for a pretty cool song. on the topic....sorry about your troubles. there was this girl that i kinda liked.....til i found out some things. now i just avoid all contact with her all together. shes the inspiration for my last quote on my sig.

[jenat-lai]

off the topic here, but put some music to your poem. it has the potential for a pretty cool song. on the topic....sorry about your troubles. there was this girl that i kinda liked.....til i found out some things. now i just avoid all contact with her all together. shes the inspiration for my last quote on my sig.

My Former Ex did a bit of the one night stand stuff... she stopped talking to me because she said I was starting to stalk her. (a few sms's and phonecalls too many and mentions of the words 'still love you'. She said she'd never talk to me again and for me to never contact her again and to get a life. 12 months later, I ran into her on an internet message board, and I gave her an open line to contact me if she wanted to. She did, and wev even met again since...

Or in otherwords... there are some times when friends are more prescious than ego, and I'd rather be a friend for life with someone I really admire and love, than to go out with them a whyle, and after a few nights together, part and go our seperate ways. I want to know the real them, and see them live their lives, fulfill their dreams, become who they want to be.