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Posted: 2003-05-02 06:39am
by NecronLord
America's going to get nuked by a probe?

Isn't it interesting how it's perfectly habitable later? :roll:

Posted: 2003-05-02 07:17am
by RadiO
They had the chance to do something really interesting with Enterprise, but managed to completely piss it away before the mid-point of the first season! Do they honestly expect to turn the corner with this tired, seen-it-all-before space war bullshit? WTF is this show still in business for?

Posted: 2003-05-02 09:53am
by kojikun
Remember guys, this is an entirely new thing for startrek. Never before have we seen a threat to earths future like this borg, i mean, xindi invasion. when picard, i mean archer, blows the probe up and time travels to save montana, i mean the US, everything will be OK.

Posted: 2003-05-02 10:02am
by Posbi
What kind of first strike is that? I mean hitting the Carribean in an attempt to nuke a fully industrialized target, that's as if the Chinese started a nuclear assault with an attack against Punxatawnee (35 souls), Idaho... :roll:

Posted: 2003-05-02 10:03am
by Posbi
RadiO wrote:They had the chance to do something really interesting with Enterprise, but managed to completely piss it away before the mid-point of the first season! Do they honestly expect to turn the corner with this tired, seen-it-all-before space war bullshit? WTF is this show still in business for?
My words. My words.

Posted: 2003-05-02 11:11am
by Col. Crackpot
'we'll fight the comet empire, battle through the raging fire,
filled with the hope that earth will survive
and keep peace alive!
with our! star!....umm....trek.
:roll:

all B&B need to do now is make it so smoke and flame can exist in the vacuum of space. :roll:

and another thing! Daedelus class starships from the 'future' (earth-romulan war) weren't equipped with pho-torps yet! where the fuck are these ones coming from? :roll:

Posted: 2003-05-02 11:21am
by neoolong
hvb wrote:
neoolong wrote: Actually, they've already started to copy old Enterprise episodes. And they're only in the second season.
So you say Bunnies&Burrows, or someone on their team, has now started to watch pre-B&B TNG/TOS episodes :shock:

(If only to rip them off for new old plot ideas natch. :? , they do it not for continuity checking, I can tell you that much :roll: .)
No. I mean they are going back and reusing plots from Enterprise. Their own show.

Posted: 2003-05-02 12:18pm
by Montcalm
"I see in my crystal ball another Trek crossover,this time the Enterprise E will travel to the past with the help of the timeship USS Relativity." :roll:

Posted: 2003-05-02 12:25pm
by seanrobertson
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:"[Jolene Blalock] will sport a new cat suit and hairdo next season."

That is all. :roll:
Ohh, man...*gathers self*

I know some guys are turned off by her silicone-looking lips, but Jolene does it for me. That's not to say a Vulcanstrutting around in a catsuit makes any sense, though...

Somewhat off-topic but not really deserving its own thread, in "Progenitor," Malcolm Reed says a phase cannon has "a maximum output of 80 gigajoules."

In "Silent Enemy," he claimed each cannon had a "maximum firepower of 500 gigajoules." (They were only able to damage the enemy ship after they ramped that up by a factor of ten.)

What is WITH that guy? He can't even get the units for firepower right, but now their weapons are far weaker?

That's stupid. Based on the NX-01's asteroid-shattering in "Singularity," I figured a 500 GW cannon, or 1 TW fwd. firepower, would be about right, since some of the asteroids were pretty damn big (about 200m wide). It would also be nice from the standpoint of physics: the weapon's output actually matchesits effects.

Now, though, depending on how one reconciles that stupid fucking contradiction, phase cannons ARE basically phasers. So Pike and Kirk's early use of lasers, or Worf's comment that phasers are a 22nd century invention, are pissed all over.

I am one of the VERY few people holding out for ENT because I love Star Trek. I know thing because I do love it, I should go and piss on ENT, just as it pisses all over itself.

Posted: 2003-05-02 12:44pm
by seanrobertson
Posbi wrote:Allright, okay, who the hell are the Xindi?
Damn good question.

The article says that the "Xindi" attack because, 400 years in the future (around 2552), "Earth" forces will destroy the Xindi homeworld.

What the hell gives here? Archer's ship can reach their territory from Earth in fairly short order, so it'd be in a Picard-era Federation's front LAWN. It'd probably be in their blooming house under the kitchen cabinet!

The photorp thing I could ALMOST swallow, though that stands in opposition to what Spock said about the Earth-Romulan War being fought with nuclear weapons. But this distance thing...that's simply too much.

Or not enough, as the case may be. :roll:

Posted: 2003-05-02 12:53pm
by paladin
I think B&B idea would work better in TNG era. That way contunity wouldn't be screwed!

Posted: 2003-05-02 02:53pm
by El Moose Monstero
And, thinking logically, the only way that the atomisation of the East coast of America could possibily fit in with continuity anywhere else is by... its complete removal by a big magic reset button, most likely involving a bit of action by the time-cops.

Damn them.

Posted: 2003-05-02 03:23pm
by Typhonis 1
good grief could B+B have spawned RSA????

Posted: 2003-05-02 03:51pm
by Jason von Evil
I just had this odd idea, what if the rest of the series focuses on Enterprise traveling to the Xindi homeworld and at the end of the series, they have a prologue that Enterprise finally arrives at the Xindi homeworld, 400 years after it was sent (sans Archer and them of course)?

Re: North America to Be Ass Raped by Space Probe

Posted: 2003-05-02 04:31pm
by Peregrin Toker
[Obi-Wan] I have a very bad feeling about this. [/Obi-Wan]

Posted: 2003-05-02 05:48pm
by Luke Starkiller
Furthermore, the dangerous Delphic Expanse, likened to the Bermuda Triangle, causes those who enter to "become anatomically inverted (skin on the inside, organs on the outside)."
What The Fuck? :roll:

Posted: 2003-05-02 06:20pm
by neoolong
Luke Starkiller wrote:
Furthermore, the dangerous Delphic Expanse, likened to the Bermuda Triangle, causes those who enter to "become anatomically inverted (skin on the inside, organs on the outside)."
What The Fuck? :roll:
Somebody's been watching too much Simpsons Halloween specials.

Posted: 2003-05-02 06:49pm
by Posbi
Or Galaxy Quest. Remember the Pig Monster?

Posted: 2003-05-02 06:51pm
by Posbi
The question still remains: They have the means to send stuff through time, but they can't even aim at a bloody continent???

And even more so, if this is such a powerful weapon, why only one of them? As it does obviously hit - which means there are most likely no/nada/zilch defenses around Earth - why not send a squadron and end this misery by failing to hit any continent on the planet?

Posted: 2003-05-02 07:13pm
by kojikun
posbi, read the fucking article. the entirety of north AND CENTRAL america will be vaped, not just the caribean.They dont literally mean just between florida and venezuela or whatever, theyre just giving you an idea of how huge it'll be. Christ man.

Posted: 2003-05-02 07:28pm
by Burak Gazan
Reading the article, it does not specifically say that, just some reference to "epic" explosions and a "swath of destruction across N and S America" .
The only "obliteration" is stated to be between Florida and Venezuela.
But arguing over angels on pins aside, this is all bullshit; here we are, 2 years into the 1st ever warp 5 starship's mission, and the BEST they can come up with is the "war story" . Now, let me think......was that done before, oh yeah, some series called DS9! :roll:
Aside also from the minor nit that vaping N or S America would kill the effing planet (T-K impactor energy levels?) ....
Nuts.
This is the end
Season 3 will be the last
:(

Posted: 2003-05-02 07:32pm
by Posbi
I did read the fucking article, and it did say "everything between florida and venezuela", and guess what, that sounds pretty much like the centre of destruction, and hey, what's there? Right, there's nothing except warm water and a couple of shitty and totally unimportant isles. Surely the most logical target for a WMD. :roll:

And that still doesn't explain why there's only one of them...

Posted: 2003-05-02 08:37pm
by Gandalf
I found it funny that Kirk once said that Earth narowly avoided WW3. The fucked that in FC.

Posted: 2003-05-02 10:03pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
In the 1960s. With the 20th century Romans, Spock IIRC says there was WWIII.

Posted: 2003-05-02 10:05pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Wow, if North America is completely destroyed, guess how fucked the rest of the world is from that blast. Holy shit, B&B killed Earth!




And photon torpedoes? WHERE ARE THE NUKES?!