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Admiral Valdemar wrote:D'oh! I fell into the naming trap of referring to the Black Eagle as the T-95 like some online have. Now I know why I forgot, I kept thinking the damn Black Eagle was the T-95.

It's one of those days...
Ah yes, that mistake really irks me :)
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I wonder what he thinks the M1A2's fire control computer uses. I doubt it even has anything better than an i80386-class processor.
Hehehe. Even the F-22 doesn't use anything better than the equivalent of a 486, IIRC? Or was that 386?
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Vympel wrote:
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I wonder what he thinks the M1A2's fire control computer uses. I doubt it even has anything better than an i80386-class processor.
Hehehe. Even the F-22 doesn't use anything better than the equivalent of a 486, IIRC? Or was that 386?
Actually, I think the F-22 has the equivilant of an early P5 (Pentium I) inside of it. It's MFDs actually use the VSA-100 GPU (used in the 3dfx Voodoo 5) though.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:Yeah, they seem to forget that these computers are meant to be simple and only run a machine of death, not the latest 3DFX copy of Counterstrike.
Indeed - the calculations are trivial to undertake. My graphing calculator could do it with the right sensor hardware, and that only has a 10MHz 68000 - which is likely overkill.
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whoa whoa whoa!

Vympel, you totally missed what i was trying to say, and took it out of context....which is partially my fault for quoting myself out of context. First i never once said that Russia would invade the US or Englad or Israel. i was just pointing out that this tank will never be made, nor can Russia afford to make any new MBT in great numbers. i was criticizing the remarks made in the guest book, Da, Russia good Amerikkka bad and the big wet dream wankfest about MiG 31's and hoards of Russian tanks crushing M1's by the thousand.
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Col. Crackpot wrote:whoa whoa whoa!
Chill, I wasn't flaming you :lol:

Vympel, you totally missed what i was trying to say, and took it out of context....which is partially my fault for quoting myself out of context. First i never once said that Russia would invade the US or Englad or Israel. i was just pointing out that this tank will never be made, nor can Russia afford to make any new MBT in great numbers.[/quote]

Not until the end of this decade anyway .... *sigh*

Presently, Omsktransmash (where the T-80 is built) is fulfilling a Russian Arms order for upgrading T-62 and T-72 tanks, which was made in April 2002. Don't ask me why the hell they're bothering to upgrade T-62s, but that's what the few articles on the subject say- along with the cost of the upgrade being 25% of the cost for buying a new tank, and bringing them up to a level of T-80U/T-90 capability- don't ask me what they mean by that.

Meanwhile, Uralvagonzavod (where the T-90 is built) is building small numbers of T-90s.
i was criticizing the remarks made in the guest book, Da, Russia good Amerikkka bad and the big wet dream wankfest about MiG 31's and hoards of Russian tanks crushing M1's by the thousand.
Just call em dumbasses :)
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phongn wrote: Actually, I think the F-22 has the equivilant of an early P5 (Pentium I) inside of it. It's MFDs actually use the VSA-100 GPU (used in the 3dfx Voodoo 5) though.
Total F-22 processing power is 700 million operations/sec. However there is a bunch of room for future expansions, though I believe the FLIR turret is taking up some of that.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:
phongn wrote:
Vympel wrote: And this guy is a grade-A dumbass from the other side of the wall. Russian tank technology owes little, if anything to the West.
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I wonder what he thinks the M1A2's fire control computer uses. I doubt it even has anything better than an i80386-class processor.
Yeah, they seem to forget that these computers are meant to be simple and only run a machine of death, not the latest 3DFX copy of Counterstrike.
Yes, about the fastest, most sophisticated hardened military/space version of a consumer chip you're going to find is an i80386. The newer chips tend to be harder to harden, owing to the much smaller feature sizes, IIRC.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
phongn wrote: Actually, I think the F-22 has the equivilant of an early P5 (Pentium I) inside of it. It's MFDs actually use the VSA-100 GPU (used in the 3dfx Voodoo 5) though.
Total F-22 processing power is 700 million operations/sec. However there is a bunch of room for future expansions, though I believe the FLIR turret is taking up some of that.
Really? I wasn't aware that it had 700 MIPS or so on that thing...I'll have to look around to see what commerical processor compares. Any idea how much of that is eaten up by the GPUs and such?
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phongn wrote: Really? I wasn't aware that it had 700 MIPS or so on that thing...I'll have to look around to see what commerical processor compares. Any idea how much of that is eaten up by the GPUs and such?
No. Only other thing I can tell you is that the total power is the combination of two identical CIP's.
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So an article that claims that the Challenger was attacked by a soviet "Space Gun"
In October 1984, the USA launched its Challenger shuttle for the 13th time. When the shuttle flew over Lake Balkhash (in Soviet territory at that time), it suddenly lost contact with the Earth, devices on board the shuttle were lost and the astronauts themselves felt ill. The Americans held a thorough investigation of the incident and learned that the crew and the space vessel had suffered from something arising from the USSR. An official protest followed. After that, American space objects never suffered such faults over Soviet territory.
Is claiming that they have a "Super Tank" that is superior to everything else, but no one wants to buy? I assume they will claim next that they have turned the moon into a "Death Star" and are going to hold Washington hostage.

I think I am going to treat this with a mild dose of skepticism and wait for more credible evidence.
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