Worst creationist tactic

[victorhadin]

Oh gee. Let me think.

1) Misunderstanding the burden of proof and assuming that God is unfalsifiable and therefore true.

2) The mentioned idiocy about 'if we evolved from apes why are apes still around? eh?'

3) 'Well x friend knew y person who had never walked for years and then in his church he stood and walked for the first time!!!'

4) Repeatedly making references to 'evolutionists' and hinting at a grand conspiracy of 'evolutionists'.

5) Taking books on 'creation science' seriously and expecting me to check through the wild 'facts' therein. (I came across one which tried to prove the Earth was young by making references to 'high levels of Th230 and U236 on the moon; both short-lived elements'.)

6) Gesturing wildly at statistical blips and ignoring the actual trend. (See 'person walked in church after being crippled for years' or 'some guy I knew recovered from an illness when we prayed for him'.)

7) 'If there are an infinite amount of universes then an omnipotent being must exist in one of them and if he does then by definition he exists in all of them!' (Those of a Spacebattles descent will recognise this particular piece of highly creative idiocy.)

Making wild statements and expecting me to have to go and disprove them. ('There are remains of the Ark on Everest!' 'There are authentic Roman documents speaking of Jesus!')

9) Resorting to assumptions of superior morality.

10) Accusing Atheists of Communist tendencies.

11) Claiming that Atheism caused more evil than any other belief system and pointing to Soviet Russia, China and (laughably) NAZI germany.

[HemlockGrey]

...you know, Wong, there are Christians who realize that Genesis isn't to be accepted as straight fact...

[Shadow WarChief]

And you know Cyril, Wong has gone to extreme legnths to make this so abundantly clear on his web-page. So clear in fact, that any fuckwit with a computer could tell you that he knows there are christians that don't believe in literal Genesis.

I mean, Christ dude, he wrote a God-damned Essay on it

[Kuja]

laugh...cough....god=infallible.....giggle

[Setesh]

For Captain Lennox:

Instead of pissing them off the conventional way, at some point when someones quoting the bible (see Skeptics annoted bible, they have a website, for a good point to do this), stand up and start to walk off, if you are stopped or later when asked why you left, look at them right in the eye and say as calmly as possible:

"Because I refuse to associate with racist, lying, amoral, genocidal maniacs."

They will either be A)shocker or B) ask what the hell your talking about

Memorise the biblical 'proofs' and when challenged:

"I believe in God I just refuse to worship mass murders"

[SPOOFE]

Am I the only one who's heard of the "Eye Argument"? It claims that the human eye is too complex and - ahem - "beautiful" an organ to have just "happened randomly".

It's just another version of the "life can't come from non-life!" argument, but why it focuses specifically on the eye, I'll never know. It's not like eyes are the only photo-sensitive objects in existence.

[Kuja]

Mike goes over that in the Creation v evolution website.

[Singular Quartet]

7) 'If there are an infinite amount of universes then an omnipotent being must exist in one of them and if he does then by definition he exists in all of them!' (Those of a Spacebattles descent will recognise this particular piece of highly creative idiocy.)

I was part of that thread. He just wouldn't listen to either his own illogic, our logic, and our illogic. It was disgusting, and I think it wound up as a giant flame war before a mod closed it.

[Kuja]

flame war.......*drool*

[ArmorPierce]

When they say the same thing over an over again say you are wrong and use lies.

Thats pretty much the tatic that they all use.

[Kuja]

straw men

[Alyeska]

7) 'If there are an infinite amount of universes then an omnipotent being must exist in one of them and if he does then by definition he exists in all of them!' (Those of a Spacebattles descent will recognise this particular piece of highly creative idiocy.)

There is ofcourse a fundamental problem with that assumption.

There are also an infinite number of universes that there are no God's.

Its simple really. With there being an infinite number of universes, you can have an infinite number of universes with god AND an infinite number of universes without god. Either way, that doesn't prove the existance of god in THIS universe.

[Iceberg]

Just say no. Or, simply skip the sessions and go to the arcade. Your parents obviously won't listen to reason on this, so there's no point debating.

Yeah, except the arcade is miles away I'm in the middle of nowhere, and if I don't go they'll call my parents.
And Teen Life is Catholic Tennage stuff too make "God" look fun. But the upside there is pizza & donuts at the end It isn't that bad because of the food

OK, alternate tactic: go, but loudly and aggressively steer every discussion into a debate over the morality of the Medieval Inquisition and the Pope's declaration to invade, conquer, and enslave all those of other religions in the 15th century. And wear an Iron Maiden T-shirt (the "Number of the Beast" shirt), or an inverted pentagram pendant around your neck. Your parents will soon pull you out to spare themselves the embarrassment in front of their religious friends.

In other words, basically reinforce every negative stereotype people may have about atheists, just to get out of going to fucking CCD. WAY TO FUCKING GO. *slow, sarcastic applause*

Problem: Unless he forms a silly little commune of only atheists that never ever interacts with the outside world (we call people who do shit like this around religious leaders cults, BTW), he's going to have to deal with these people again. Only after this silly little plan, they're going to think of him as an obnoxious, contrary son of a bitch. AT BEST. That's going to make them react negatively to him, because he's proven he's a stupid little dick who can't look outside his own little navel and interact constructively with anybody who disagrees with him.

Seeing the irony yet?

[The Yosemite Bear]

Reading the hate mail, I just have one question, could making statements so garbled that you can't understand them count as a tactic or just plain illiteracy?

[Tosho]

worst creasonist tactic:

decay rates can change. the timescale their obviously supporting ::cough:: 10,000 year old earth ::cough:: would disprove itself if this was true, assuming that the rates were changing at a constant rate that would mean in order to figure out how much they were changing we'd have to divide 4,600,000,000 by 10,000. want to guess whether we've noticed a change like that?