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Posted: 2003-07-15 03:49pm
by kojikun
Mitth-raw-nuruodo wrote:Agreed. But it is very good practice, and a great learning tool to figure out HOW to hack. And I've heard that at lvl 7 and above, you have to do what's considered "real hacking", but uh, I'm on 5 right now, so I dunno. I DO know that on the last level you have to hack an IRC bot...
People are suggesting using flash decompilers and shit for level 2 (only just started, gimme a break). Honestly I think its cheating. Yeah, its exactly what a hacker would do in this situation, but a hacker CAN'T decompile a remote computer, so I think it's a cop-out to decompile it. Problem I'm finding, tho, is that all the common passwords and usernames aren't being used. So off to find a decompiler I go! :D

Posted: 2003-07-15 04:00pm
by Mitth`raw`nuruodo
kojikun wrote:People are suggesting using flash decompilers and shit for level 2 (only just started, gimme a break). Honestly I think its cheating. Yeah, its exactly what a hacker would do in this situation, but a hacker CAN'T decompile a remote computer, so I think it's a cop-out to decompile it. Problem I'm finding, tho, is that all the common passwords and usernames aren't being used. So off to find a decompiler I go! :D
heh. An .swf file isn't a remote computer. You just wait, it gets harder. Oh, and here ya go, a flash decompiler (hard to find these damn things free, but that one should work)

Posted: 2003-07-15 04:04pm
by kojikun
Mitth-raw-nuruodo wrote:heh. An .swf file isn't a remote computer. You just wait, it gets harder. Oh, and here ya go, a flash decompiler (hard to find these damn things free, but that one should work)
i know a flash program aint remote, but my point was that if you act like it is then its real practice, decompiling it is only cheating yourself, because youre not acting like its a real computer. btw i already got to level 3. thing is, i cant get further ;D

Posted: 2003-07-15 04:16pm
by Zoink
Ace Pace wrote:
where do I get a flash decompiler?

forgive my total VB, flash and IRC stupidity.

Just use a text editor. Notepad will work fine.

Posted: 2003-07-15 04:18pm
by kojikun
Zoink wrote:Just use a text editor. Notepad will work fine.
Hey that it does. Interesting.

Posted: 2003-07-15 04:20pm
by Mitth`raw`nuruodo
kojikun wrote:
Mitth-raw-nuruodo wrote:heh. An .swf file isn't a remote computer. You just wait, it gets harder. Oh, and here ya go, a flash decompiler (hard to find these damn things free, but that one should work)
i know a flash program aint remote, but my point was that if you act like it is then its real practice, decompiling it is only cheating yourself, because youre not acting like its a real computer. btw i already got to level 3. thing is, i cant get further ;D
HAHAHA! I'll have to redo that myself, cause I forgot what that one is.. I know it took awhile tho. I could give you the passwrod, but that's cheating. Instead, I wish you luck!

Posted: 2003-07-15 04:31pm
by Beowulf
Mitth-raw-nuruodo wrote:HAHAHA! I'll have to redo that myself, cause I forgot what that one is.. I know it took awhile tho. I could give you the passwrod, but that's cheating. Instead, I wish you luck!
You could give us a clue...

Posted: 2003-07-15 04:32pm
by Mitth`raw`nuruodo
Beowulf wrote:
Mitth-raw-nuruodo wrote:HAHAHA! I'll have to redo that myself, cause I forgot what that one is.. I know it took awhile tho. I could give you the passwrod, but that's cheating. Instead, I wish you luck!
You could give us a clue...
ALPHABET!

Posted: 2003-07-15 06:19pm
by Beowulf
I tried that... it doesn't work... I've looked at the code, and I can't figure it out...

Posted: 2003-07-15 06:59pm
by kojikun
the page source says AbCdE as the PW, but that doesnt work for me. and the "correctsite" or whatever says it aint correct. so im clueless.

also i tried "PASSWORD" because the code says if(pwd==PASSWORD). the double equals means the equals as we know it to be (literally, pwd==PASSWORD means that the pwdvariable has "PASSWORD" in it), whereas the a single equal would just check of the variable pwd and the variable PASSWORD have the same content.

Posted: 2003-07-15 09:01pm
by namdoolb
kojikun wrote:the page source says AbCdE as the PW, but that doesnt work for me. and the "correctsite" or whatever says it aint correct. so im clueless.

also i tried "PASSWORD" because the code says if(pwd==PASSWORD). the double equals means the equals as we know it to be (literally, pwd==PASSWORD means that the pwdvariable has "PASSWORD" in it), whereas the a single equal would just check of the variable pwd and the variable PASSWORD have the same content.

right at the beginning of that big lump of script you've got this:

<!--

Which basically means "ignore this".

I believe the real javascript is in a remote file of some kind,

but I'm still stuck... 'cause I can't find the remote location of the javascript.

Posted: 2003-07-15 09:05pm
by Beowulf
namdoolb wrote: right at the beginning of that big lump of script you've got this:

<!--

Which basically means "ignore this".
That's there so that non-javascript capable browsers won't attempt to render the code.

Posted: 2003-07-15 09:15pm
by Xenophobe3691
I found a guide that shows everything about hacking this, it's really sad...

It even gives step by step instructions :shock:

Posted: 2003-07-15 09:30pm
by TrailerParkJawa
Ive been to this site. It was more than a year ago. It seems he is rebuilding it after messing up something. Anyway, I got to level 7 or 8 then got stuck. If you look closely this site is more about learning how things work than actually practicing hacking. Although I suppose they are one in the same in some respects.

Posted: 2003-07-15 09:36pm
by Beowulf
Ahem... a clue...

Note that the variables at the end are assigned after the comparison is done. They must therefore not be correct.

Posted: 2003-07-15 09:39pm
by Andrew J.
When I started Level 1 I entered "password" as the passowrd, and when that didn't work I gave up. :oops:

Posted: 2003-07-15 09:56pm
by Jadeite
I got past Level 1, then got stuck trying to figure out the login on level 2, altho I got the password for it.

Posted: 2003-07-15 10:23pm
by kojikun
Beowulf wrote:Ahem... a clue...

Note that the variables at the end are assigned after the comparison is done. They must therefore not be correct.
Thats what I was thinking, I assumed that javascript might be more fluid then other languages tho.

I found it tho. I hadn't noticed the thing to look for before. Very inconscpicuous. Now im stuck on 4. I tried a .class decompiler, no passwords. =\

*edit* sneaky sneaky..

Posted: 2003-07-16 12:21am
by Beowulf
Level 5 done... on to level 6...

kdsvbd

And shouldn't this be in G&C?

Posted: 2003-07-16 12:57am
by Mitth`raw`nuruodo
Beowulf wrote:And shouldn't this be in G&C?
Probably. Anyone want to move it?

Posted: 2003-07-16 01:14am
by Exonerate
Level 4...

Heh, I self-taught Javascript. I had to read the third one a couple times before I caught it...

Unfortunately, I have close to no experience with Java.

Posted: 2003-07-16 01:23am
by Mitth`raw`nuruodo
I'm on level 5 myself, never did find the damn VB3 decompiler

Posted: 2003-07-16 04:51am
by The Third Man
Mitth-raw-nuruodo wrote: I'm on level 5 myself, never did find the damn VB3 decompiler
If you don't want to run the risk of downloading a decompiler from dubious sources, I can PM you the text output from mine, since I've already done it. That is of course, if you are sure that decompiling is the way to solve this one! :)

Posted: 2003-07-16 03:42pm
by Mitth`raw`nuruodo
The Third Man wrote:
Mitth-raw-nuruodo wrote: I'm on level 5 myself, never did find the damn VB3 decompiler
If you don't want to run the risk of downloading a decompiler from dubious sources, I can PM you the text output from mine, since I've already done it. That is of course, if you are sure that decompiling is the way to solve this one! :)
Already have to decompiler. Thanks anyway

Posted: 2003-07-16 04:06pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Stupid fucking computer. I had to click view sourse about 50 fucking times before it worked because my computer kept on crashing.

Piece of Shit!