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A little off-topic, but make a big meeting, and get 95% + of the Jedi to attend. Then do a BDZ with a fleet of ISD's, to make sure noone escapes. Then hunt down the rest of the Jedi. This way is much easier.

Let the Jedi come to a meeting hall, and inform them I'm going to be late getting there because of something elsewhere (i.e a riot I have staged, or something else that is semi-legit, like an emergency session or something, I don't care on the specs)

Then have the secret droid in the basement with the high power bomb as it's main weapon detonate and kill them all

and I think getting all the Jedi in one place and a BDZ order will show up in Episode 3

Nukes, lots of nukes.

What part of squad against one or two Jedi and company/regiment against 20-200 Jedi didn´t you understand?

FTeik wrote:What part of squad against one or two Jedi and company/regiment against 20-200 Jedi didn´t you understand?

Tactical nukes, lots of tactical nukes.


Seriously, I think a high number of heavy automatics (both of energy and projectile types) on repulsor-sleds, and supported by Genosian-type sonic weapons, would be best.

Besides nukes, of course, LOL.

YT300000 wrote:A little off-topic, but make a big meeting, and get 95% + of the Jedi to attend. Then do a BDZ with a fleet of ISD's, to make sure noone escapes. Then hunt down the rest of the Jedi. This way is much easier.

The problem here is getting them to the meeting with all their prerecgonition skills and the force. It's a big trap after all, right? Hopefully the Jedi won't sense your intent or the crewers of the ISDs...

Have we saw Jedi deflect multiple projectiles in the air? Or more accurately, over 100 bullets in the air at one time.

We still haven't seen Jedi display the ability to stop the huge amount of lead a squad of MGs can deal out. He can run, but that doesn't stop him from being able to stop me from hunting him down.

There are a couple of logical reasons for why we don't see general use of projectile weapons.
For one, compared to energy based weapons, they have less ammunition and are more bulky.
Also, it will appear that energy based weapons don't suffer the dangers of malfunctioning power packs, jams and other similar problems a ammunition based weapon has.
Last but not least, energy based weapons appear to be a one size fits all, thus negating the problems of calibre and ammunition concerns.

Also, I guess Jedi can use Force pull and pull away weapons. If I can concentrate weapons fire on him though, I doubt he can evade my weapons fire and pull away weapons at the same time.

PainRack wrote:Have we saw Jedi deflect multiple projectiles in the air? Or more accurately, over 100 bullets in the air at one time.

A simple force-shield(official power) is easier, you only need to focus on one thing.

There are a couple of logical reasons for why we don't see general use of projectile weapons.
For one, compared to energy based weapons, they have less ammunition and are more bulky.

Which are irrelevant anyhow as it's not a general use weapon but for a special mission.
And it's claimed efficiency would more than make up for those downfalls.

Also, it will appear that energy based weapons don't suffer the dangers of malfunctioning power packs, jams and other similar problems a ammunition based weapon has.

No they can overload with enough power to blow up a building.
Again this is also irrelevant, you're counting reasons why a military would not want projectile weapons as it's main small-arm, they are utterly irrelevant to people who want weapons for killing jedi.

Last but not least, energy based weapons appear to be a one size fits all, thus negating the problems of calibre and ammunition concerns.

Again irrelevant to someone hunting jedi as this is not general use, but for a special jedi killing mission.

A squad of normal schmucks vs 1-2 jedi is almost certainly suicide anyway. If I have my people trained to Navy Seal standards, or maybe if I scounged up a dozen Noghri, this might be workable.

Or I could implant my people with several anti-personnel bombs, which will go off if they are killed by a lightsaber, ruining the jedi's day.

consequences wrote:Or I could implant my people with several anti-personnel bombs, which will go off if they are killed by a lightsaber, ruining the jedi's day.

Unless the Jedi make them go off early, that'll ruin your day.

If we are giving Jedi that sort of obnoxious capability, there's no reason to even bother. Go straight to the BDZ and have done with it.

Deal with pesky Jedi by training/hiring Sith bodyguards.

FTeik wrote:What part of squad against one or two Jedi and company/regiment against 20-200 Jedi didn´t you understand?

Look up the Davy Crocket; a squad could haul around a couple launchers and plenty of ammo.

PainRack wrote:Have we saw Jedi deflect multiple projectiles in the air? Or more accurately, over 100 bullets in the air at one time.

We still haven't seen Jedi display the ability to stop the huge amount of lead a squad of MGs can deal out. He can run, but that doesn't stop him from being able to stop me from hunting him down.

While it's true that you might eventually hunt him down, it wouldn't be impossible for a Jedi to deflect projectiles in the air. Kyle Katarn, as of Jedi Outcast, could redirect rockets, rifle-launched grenades, and shotgun-like flechette blasts.

Robert Treder wrote:While it's true that you might eventually hunt him down, it wouldn't be impossible for a Jedi to deflect projectiles in the air. Kyle Katarn, as of Jedi Outcast, could redirect rockets, rifle-launched grenades, and shotgun-like flechette blasts.

Don't forget that the Reborn, lacking the dicipline and experience of Kyle and others of Luke's Jedi Academy, can do the same kind of thing.

Lord of the Farce wrote:

Robert Treder wrote:While it's true that you might eventually hunt him down, it wouldn't be impossible for a Jedi to deflect projectiles in the air. Kyle Katarn, as of Jedi Outcast, could redirect rockets, rifle-launched grenades, and shotgun-like flechette blasts.

Don't forget that the Reborn, lacking the dicipline and experience of Kyle and others of Luke's Jedi Academy, can do the same kind of thing.

Not only that, but anyone above the lowest initiate will do it without fail every time. Granted, you can get them to redirect a rocket into a wall if you're fighting in close quarters, but that usually backfires on you.

His Divine Shadow wrote:
A simple force-shield(official power) is easier, you only need to focus on one thing.

Then we spray him from various angles as well. The WEG force shield doesn't allow for protection from the rear. Or we shoot him until he can't focus anymore and finally crumble under a wall of lead.

Which are irrelevant anyhow as it's not a general use weapon but for a special mission.
And it's claimed efficiency would more than make up for those downfalls.

If its a more specific, special mission, we do see bounty hunters use projectile based weapons against Jedi in the EU, and canon if you count Jango Fett poison dart against the shape-shifter.

However, my point is more like this. Most people in the SWU don't count on having their operations disrupted by a couple of jedi. Are you going to trade the advantages of a energy based weapon to have a heavy, cumbersome slugthrower MG just on the oft chance of a jedi popping by? Especially when a multitude of blaster weapons can also do the job?

Then we spray him from various angles as well. The WEG force shield doesn't allow for protection from the rear. Or we shoot him until he can't focus anymore and finally crumble under a wall of lead.

Assuming you'd ever get to that stage, once the shield is up I don'tsee whats stopping him from yanking away the weapons, you're operating under the assumption that a Jedi can only do one thing with the force at any time, i.e. no multi-tasking.
Or he could just do a saber throw, bang, everyone in the room are in pieces.

If its a more specific, special mission, we do see bounty hunters use projectile based weapons against Jedi in the EU, and canon if you count Jango Fett poison dart against the shape-shifter.

Please show me evidence of these instances in the EU as amongst my 1400 official references and quotes I have found none. And in the movie the dart wasn't used against any Jedi.

However, my point is more like this. Most people in the SWU don't count on having their operations disrupted by a couple of jedi.

This is a incorrect situation, an appropriate situation would be someone trying to Kill jedi as a goal, like this thread here.

If you go for the chemical weapons idea, make sure you get a gas that does not need to be inhaled to be lethal, can be scrubbed off or is rendered inert after a while, and make sure your troopers have multiple levels of protection against it. Or better yet, recieve a dose of the anitdote regularly.

Chemical weapons? Against someone who can detox by closing his eyes and thinking about it?

SirNitram wrote:Chemical weapons? Against someone who can detox by closing his eyes and thinking about it?

He can only do one thing at a time, nit.

MKSheppard wrote:

SirNitram wrote:Chemical weapons? Against someone who can detox by closing his eyes and thinking about it?

He can only do one thing at a time, nit.

Shep, the Jedis were in the midsts of the gas cloud fighting off the droids thus using the detoxify abilties, precog and reflexes for blaster bolt deflection and senses to actually see the droids since the cloud was pretty thick in there and you could only see their sabers with any kind of clarrity. The novels also state that Jedi when they deul use the force to inhibit each other coupled with their lightsaber duleing skills and precog makes it fairly obvious that Jedi can use more than one ability at a time with the proper concentration.

Yes, but i think the chemical toxin seen in TPM would have killed them onyl if they breathed it in, not by skin-contact.

So they only had to keep their breath.

MKSheppard wrote:

SirNitram wrote:Chemical weapons? Against someone who can detox by closing his eyes and thinking about it?

He can only do one thing at a time, nit.

Wow, a completely unproven assumption put forth as inalienable fact. I'm getting kinda sick of those.