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Posted: 2003-08-13 05:09pm
by Thirdfain
I doubt the entire Pheonix navy would be in system at this time. As the GM, Stormbringer, I figure you are the guy to ask as to how many vessels they have in place.
Posted: 2003-08-13 05:20pm
by Stormbringer
Thirdfain wrote:I doubt the entire Pheonix navy would be in system at this time. As the GM, Stormbringer, I figure you are the guy to ask as to how many vessels they have in place.
You mean Asgard? I assume you have no objects to the OOB i posted for them?
Pheonix is on the other side of known space, it's connected to Manticore and Erewhon.
Posted: 2003-08-13 05:40pm
by Thirdfain
I meant Asgard. How many vessels do they have in-system with the wormhole?
Posted: 2003-08-13 05:53pm
by The Dark
Thirdfain: the only BB assault through the Junction was a wargame played out by Manticoran forces to simulate the damage Peep BBs could cause to the fort system by transferring from Trevor's Star to Manticore. I believe it's in SVW, mentioned because Honor was part of the wargames. They were notable because the battleships caused damage far out of proportion to their capabilities, but I believe only 50 were "allowed" through at a time.
Posted: 2003-08-13 07:09pm
by Thirdfain
Hell, 50 BB sized craft at a time? 16 DNs could EASILY fit through for that amount.
Posted: 2003-08-13 07:29pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Thirdfain wrote:Hell, 50 BB sized craft at a time? 16 DNs could EASILY fit through for that amount.
White Haven could have gotten 22 SDs through Manticore. 16 DNs would fit.
Posted: 2003-08-14 02:39pm
by Stormbringer
Thirdfain wrote:I meant Asgard. How many vessels do they have in-system with the wormhole?
Forces in system:
- 28 SD
6 DN
7 BB
44 Vasa-class CA
72 Sabre-class CA
40 CL
60 DD
12 FG
Posted: 2003-08-14 02:40pm
by Stormbringer
Thirdfain wrote:Hell, 50 BB sized craft at a time? 16 DNs could EASILY fit through for that amount.
And shut down the Junction for 15-16 hours.
Posted: 2003-08-16 02:07pm
by consequences
Thanks Stormbringer, I somehow missed that bit about Mesa. Certainly explains how they have survived as long as they have. *begins plotting to form a grand alliance to attack the Sollies, is distracted by shiny ribbon, promptly forgets plan*
Posted: 2003-08-16 02:17pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Fuck. That giant power outage not only erased a giant post, but parts of the OOB I was writing!
Posted: 2003-08-16 02:52pm
by consequences
That means it erased those parts of your fleet, too, right? So we don't have to worry about them?
Or not, sorry to hear about that. don't worry, it'll be years before any of us can even get completely wasted and think about attacking you seriously, much less plan soberly.
Posted: 2003-08-16 09:33pm
by Stormbringer
consequences wrote:Thanks Stormbringer, I somehow missed that bit about Mesa. Certainly explains how they have survived as long as they have. *begins plotting to form a grand alliance to attack the Sollies, is distracted by shiny ribbon, promptly forgets plan*
No problem, the details are buried in a single story in the anthology collection so it's easy to overlook. I've just read the Honorverse books a time or two too many.
Posted: 2003-08-16 11:16pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Darn, Dahak's messages is to Dark! Stupid frontier.
Who will write the combat in Asgard?
Posted: 2003-08-16 11:43pm
by Stormbringer
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Who will write the combat in Asgard?
I guess as GM I am.
Posted: 2003-08-17 01:36am
by Stormbringer
About my edited post:
I just changed the system name since I realized the two wormhole in Andy space are in different systems.
Posted: 2003-08-18 09:02am
by Dahak
Stormbringer, what does
[B - xxx PT - xxx} in your order of battle stand for? I can't really decipher it
Posted: 2003-08-18 09:05am
by Dahak
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Darn, Dahak's messages is to Dark! Stupid frontier.
You're free to negotiate with me
Posted: 2003-08-18 12:27pm
by Stormbringer
Dahak wrote:Stormbringer, what does
[B - xxx PT - xxx} in your order of battle stand for? I can't really decipher it
Is the total building.
[PT - XX] Is the projected total of ships in the class
Posted: 2003-08-18 12:46pm
by Dahak
Stormbringer wrote:Dahak wrote:Stormbringer, what does
[B - xxx PT - xxx} in your order of battle stand for? I can't really decipher it
Is the total building.
[PT - XX] Is the projected total of ships in the class
So I'm encouraged to update the OOB with thingsunder construction, as well?
Posted: 2003-08-18 12:52pm
by Stormbringer
Dahak wrote:Stormbringer wrote:Dahak wrote:Stormbringer, what does
[B - xxx PT - xxx} in your order of battle stand for? I can't really decipher it
Is the total building.
[PT - XX] Is the projected total of ships in the class
So I'm encouraged to update the OOB with thingsunder construction, as well?
If you want to be adding ships to your fleets it'd help to know. Help avoid power gaming, though I doubt that'll happen here.
Posted: 2003-08-18 01:05pm
by Dahak
Stormbringer wrote:Dahak wrote:Stormbringer wrote:
Is the total building.
[PT - XX] Is the projected total of ships in the class
So I'm encouraged to update the OOB with thingsunder construction, as well?
If you want to be adding ships to your fleets it'd help to know. Help avoid power gaming, though I doubt that'll happen here.
So, added my projected plans. (Haven's still going strong for military)
Posted: 2003-08-18 01:16pm
by Stormbringer
Building hundreds of capital warships at once seems very excessive to me. Especially since Bolthole was working for years just to make the few hundred ships Haven has.
Posted: 2003-08-18 01:22pm
by Dahak
Stormbringer wrote:Building hundreds of capital warships at once seems very excessive to me. Especially since Bolthole was working for years just to make the few hundred ships Haven has.
I just used what WoH offered me.
White Haven says that they have seen close to 200 SD(P)s (excluded the SD(P)s used against Sidemore), and then said that the conservative estimation is that they'd have at least another 300 SD(P)s under construction...
Posted: 2003-08-18 01:30pm
by Stormbringer
Dahak wrote:Stormbringer wrote:Building hundreds of capital warships at once seems very excessive to me. Especially since Bolthole was working for years just to make the few hundred ships Haven has.
I just used what WoH offered me.
White Haven says that they have seen close to 200 SD(P)s (excluded the SD(P)s used against Sidemore), and then said that the conservative estimation is that they'd have at least another 300 SD(P)s under construction...
I know. But I think White Haven's working under the wrong assumptions. He is making that in ignorance of the actual situation. From the numbers we the readers have it seems that Bolthole building fifty or so SD(P)s a year and it'd had simply been working for longer than White Haven believed.
Since I realy don't want to argue this to the detriment of the game perhaps a compromise?
Posted: 2003-08-18 01:35pm
by Dahak
Stormbringer wrote:Dahak wrote:Stormbringer wrote:Building hundreds of capital warships at once seems very excessive to me. Especially since Bolthole was working for years just to make the few hundred ships Haven has.
I just used what WoH offered me.
White Haven says that they have seen close to 200 SD(P)s (excluded the SD(P)s used against Sidemore), and then said that the conservative estimation is that they'd have at least another 300 SD(P)s under construction...
I know. But I think White Haven's working under the wrong assumptions. He is making that in ignorance of the actual situation. From the numbers we the readers have it seems that Bolthole building fifty or so SD(P)s a year and it'd had simply been working for longer than White Haven believed.
Since I realy don't want to argue this to the detriment of the game perhaps a compromise?
Technically, I would think Paxton and Givens knew what they were talking about
Basically, I had already redused those 300 SD(P)s under construction to 250, would 200 be acceptable? I really wouldn't like to go any much lower...