These forums could be a lot more respectable.

[SPOOFE]

One of the purposes of this board is to have fun.

And it's kinda impossible to have fun when you have someone constantly breathing down your neck and shouting "DON'T DO THAT!" whenever you get a tad raunchy.

Therefore, DocMoriartty, you may kindly eat out my asshole and call it candy, you plegmatic smattering of freshly-felched goatcum.

[Mr Bean]

Well if it is not SPOOFE, our old long missing friend, and I'm have tempted to edit that one out there...

Anyway onto the orgional posters comments, few of us use such language normaly, While I'm slow to call someone somthing say like *A useless hatfucker, I've done it a time or two.... normaly when refering to Darkstar, but otherwise you will find me loathed to call anyone an idiot, while some such as the Evil Ass Warsi group specficly goes out of thier way to make SURE you get the point

As the others said, as long as one acutal incudles a point in the rant of swearing its fine by most of us

[Master of Ossus]

That thing in Dear Doctor was Paramount Execs - they actually had Archer order Phlox and Phlox refuse (the end) but the Paramount execs didnt want the crew to fight so it was ordered to be rewritten.

So? Just because Paramount was responsible for some of Archer's inconsistency does not make him more consistent. Also, all of the characters seem to hate Vulcans, but no one ever seems to do anything differently around them.

[Howedar]

Good God, you have almost 4000 posts?!?!

[Master of Ossus]

Good God, you have almost 4000 posts?!?!

Bean is the unquestioned ruler of the Post Count.

[Daedalus]

Of course that would require a rather large number of the people who post on this forum to grow up.

Every time I come here to see what is going on I leave in disgust ove rthe pathetically juevenile comments made here. Its either crude sexual comments about Star Trek writers or cheap profanity that only gets more tedious and boring with time.

Can people please try growing up here, I doubt it. I fully expect now to get attacked and electronically abused left and right by knuckle draggers who cannot post without their crude jokes or profanity.

I really would have expected more from Mr. Wong. He runs a great site and is letting it get debaced by the people who post here.

Bit of a generalization, don't you think?

[Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi]

It's an unfair generalization. This forum didn't start this way. We've seen the likes of Loser099, DarkStar, and others. It's just that we have nothing else to say. And, profanity and crude ual comments don't seem to make up most of this forum to me.

[His Divine Shadow]

Well I think that there are people who could cool it down a notch, I've seen some people calling newbies trekkies or making condescending remarks about SB as a whole due to some of it's posters and so on, it's not very good for the group you represent.

Some more niceness and cool-headedness would be appreciated I think.

[Darth Wong]

Well I think that there are people who could cool it down a notch, I've seen some people calling newbies trekkies or making condescending remarks about SB as a whole due to some of it's posters and so on, it's not very good for the group you represent.

Some more niceness and cool-headedness would be appreciated I think.

Do they still dismiss any argument as soon as my name is mentioned over there?

[Enlightenment]

Do they still dismiss any argument as soon as my name is mentioned over there?

There is no 'they.' SB is no more a monolithic bloc of opinion than this place is.

[Coyote]

DocMoriarity, you doth generalize a bit much, I think. People here get what they dish out. I almost never use profanity and when I do, I rarely ever apply it to a person as an insult. In return, no matter how heated a debate gets, I've never been the object of profanity myself. I'm sure if I started flinging profanity at people I'd get the same in return, and that' proper. But if a Trekkie gets on here and starts talking crap or getting arrogant, pushy or whiny, they get what they deserve.

Look around more. Some Trekkers come here and address issues in rational ways and debate on their hind legs they way its supposed to be done. They get treated with more respect and are also adble to shrug off the occassional "yer fulla shit" comment that comes back at them. Jerks get flamed, debaters get addressed as peers-- and nowhere does it say that we are operating under Robert's Rules of Order or Duchess of Queensbury Chivalric Code.

[Darth Wong]

Besides, what would be the fun in that? It's a little tiresome dealing with DocMoriarty here or Daedalus in the Hall of Shame, demanding that we play nice or the forum is somehow invalidated as a result. When in Rome, do as the Romans do, instead of whining about it. Right at the top of the page, the ground rules are laid out:

"Get your fill of sci-fi, science, and MOCKERY OF STUPID PEOPLE."

I wrote that, and I meant it. Anybody who comes here, sees mockery of stupid people going on, and is surprised or dismayed can always turn around and leave. Go in peace. But if they decide to stick around for the purpose of chastising us for not living up to their fine standards of etiquette, they can go fuck themselves.

[Slartibartfast]

Of course that would require a rather large number of the people who post on this forum to grow up.

Every time I come here to see what is going on I leave in disgust ove rthe pathetically juevenile comments made here. Its either crude sexual comments about Star Trek writers or cheap profanity that only gets more tedious and boring with time.

Can people please try growing up here, I doubt it. I fully expect now to get attacked and electronically abused left and right by knuckle draggers who cannot post without their crude jokes or profanity.

I really would have expected more from Mr. Wong. He runs a great site and is letting it get debaced by the people who post here.

Hey dude, you totally misspelled "interspecies porn" in your post.

[His Divine Shadow]

Do they still dismiss any argument as soon as my name is mentioned over there?

I can't say I've seen any such happenings, but I believe the Peanut Gallery would, thats our name for them.

[His Divine Shadow]

Besides, what would be the fun in that? It's a little tiresome dealing with DocMoriarty here or Daedalus in the Hall of Shame, demanding that we play nice or the forum is somehow invalidated as a result. When in Rome, do as the Romans do, instead of whining about it. Right at the top of the page, the ground rules are laid out:

"Get your fill of sci-fi, science, and MOCKERY OF STUPID PEOPLE."

I wrote that, and I meant it. Anybody who comes here, sees mockery of stupid people going on, and is surprised or dismayed can always turn around and leave. Go in peace. But if they decide to stick around for the purpose of chastising us for not living up to their fine standards of etiquette, they can go fuck themselves.

I've never said that, but I have noticed people here who in disagreements are immediatly chastisied as trekkies or SB'ers when they are none of those, or even stupid for that matter, so some more level-headeness would be great so people don't embarras themselves in the process.

And lumping SB into a, as Enlightenment said, "monolithic bloc of opinion" isn't mockery of stupid people, it's prejudice.

Even when a newbie appears one should first attempt to correct him for some time to see if he can learn anything.

I'm not defending the people who are mocking or flaming stupid people who won't learn, one could say I am speaking about something else entirely.

[His Divine Shadow]

And lumping SB into a, as Enlightenment said, "monolithic bloc of opinion" isn't mockery of stupid people, it's prejudice.

Damn no editing, but I find it worth to note that people who dismiss things automatically because they are from you or this site are equally predjudiced(sp?)

[Darth Wong]

This "you shouldn't generalize" strawman invariably crops up. No one says that every single member of SB is an idiot; some of the people making anti-SB comments are or were SB members!

However, we can say that there are "dominant" or disproportionately influential groups here or at SB. When people appear to be generalizing by referring to one or the other board as "they", they are actually referring to the dominant group.

[His Divine Shadow]

This "you shouldn't generalize" strawman invariably crops up. No one says that every single member of SB is an idiot; some of the people making anti-SB comments are or were SB members!

No but it sounds like it to them, so what I am saying is something along the lines of "humor them", or be specific enough that the people who think that are proven wrong, dumb it down for the dumb people please

However, we can say that there are "dominant" or disproportionately influential groups here or at SB. When people appear to be generalizing by referring to one or the other board as "they", they are actually referring to the dominant group.

I would like to think the Peanut Gallery is not the dominant group, perhaps the most vocal and anoying one though.

[Coyote]

The most important thing to any board is to lurk before you leap. I lurked on this board for months, off and on, and first logged on back in '98 or '99 or so... the story wasn't even finished. But i read the Turbolaser Commentaries and some of the background articles, hell, I even scoped out some of the links just to see what kind of crowd Wong finds 'acceptable company'. Only after I felt I had an idea what this board was about and decided that I agreed with much of the content did I decide to become a part of the virtual community here.

Chowderheads that log on from the get go and are all fired up to pitch a bitch or start flinging crap reap what they sow. I think there's a big difference between a Warsie tossing out a "yer fulla shit" comment and jumping the gun and going for the throat at the first sign of disagreement.

[Stormbringer]

This "you shouldn't generalize" strawman invariably crops up. No one says that every single member of SB is an idiot; some of the people making anti-SB comments are or were SB members!

However, we can say that there are "dominant" or disproportionately influential groups here or at SB. When people appear to be generalizing by referring to one or the other board as "they", they are actually referring to the dominant group.

I'm a spacebattles emmigrate. It's not united in opinion or behaviour but there are dominate personalities that have defined the board. Half the debates are no more than dogmatic shouting matches or bitching and lies. A good portion of the threads are absolutely moronic, a lot of others turn moronc (no more than competeing You're a homo, Shut the Fuck Up or Concession Accepted pictures). And there is no consequence for bad behaviour at most a week long ban. Some of the members run wild, Laird and one of his cohorts hacked another members computer and they were back within a week. I only know of one permanent, actually carried out ban. It's turned into a zoo.

[CmdrWilkens]

However, we can say that there are "dominant" or disproportionately influential groups here or at SB. When people appear to be generalizing by referring to one or the other board as "they", they are actually referring to the dominant group.

I would like to think the Peanut Gallery is not the dominant group, perhaps the most vocal and anoying one though.

There does come a point when "vocal" can be equated with "dominant." Certianly poeple who just keep positng and you can't get away from gain a certian degree of power and dominance simply because you can't carry on your funciton without them interjecting into it. Now I don't believe the Peanut Gallery is so pervasive that they just jump at every little twitch so they certianly aren't dominant in the overbearing sense however when you are loud and easily heard on certain issues then there will be poeple who listen and believe unfortunately.

[ClaysGhost]

I'm a spacebattles emmigrate. It's not united in opinion or behaviour but there are dominate personalities that have defined the board. Half the debates are no more than dogmatic shouting matches or bitching and lies. A good portion of the threads are absolutely moronic, a lot of others turn moronc (no more than competeing You're a homo, Shut the Fuck Up or Concession Accepted pictures). And there is no consequence for bad behaviour at most a week long ban. Some of the members run wild, Laird and one of his cohorts hacked another members computer and they were back within a week. I only know of one permanent, actually carried out ban. It's turned into a zoo.

Given your description, I can't see any difference between here or there

Seriously, there appears to be a wider range of views and opinion on SB than here (inevitably given the expressed intent and focus of these boards), which leads to about equal parts nonsense and sense. There are endless threads of nonsense, and some fools, but that certainly isn't a unique characteristic of SB. About the only aspect of SB that I mind (and that I can't filter) is that the focus has so obviously diverged from posting CG movies of stuff being blown up, which is unfortunate.

[DocMoriartty]

How very sophisticated of you. I wonder how you will react when your children decide to speak to you with such language when they disagree with you.

they can go fuck themselves.

[Darth Wong]

How very sophisticated of you. I wonder how you will react when your children decide to speak to you with such language when they disagree with you.

they can go fuck themselves.

Hey, here's a challenge for Mr. Uptight: explain why swear-words are bad, without resorting to "cultural conventions", which are actually just appeals to popularity.

PS. My kids have used swear-words in front of me before. I don't get excited about it. They don't realize there's anything "wrong" with them.

[Darth Wong]

By the way, it's considered extremely bad form to ignore all of someone's points in favour of attacking the manner in which they chose to make them, ie- typos or profanities.

Don't throw words like "maturity" around unless you understand them. Little kids like to point at each other and shriek "he said a bad word!" Adults hopefully learn that substance is more important than style.