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yeah, that'd be awesome!

Ok, ok...so then make a few varying locales in weather just for kicks. lol

If we were to terraform Mars, we should make it as diverse as Earth, so that people would ALWAYS find parellels to be comfortable with.

yeah, but make it cooler than earth, with warm beaches right next to a set of mountains with enourmous slopes an loads of powder snow. and some fiery lava pits for people like arminius

Yes, I suppose so. How about animals, though? Do we really need them aside from the basic pets? Actually...do we even need those? Hehe, when the population reaches over 3 million, then we should encourage pets.

Of course we need animals and pets. Why not? Animals are a part of the web of life. If you go to the trouble to terraform and plant lots of plants, then animals should go to.



Make that 2 feet of powder with a 12 foot base.

just food animals, like cows, chickens, etc.

It just occured to me , where would we get the water? To terraform the planet I mean. Unless you are planning on those hidden machines in Total Recall.

melt the ice caps?

I was thinking about the water problem, How about taking europa out of Jupiter's orbit, and crashing it into mars. that should do it. Plus it has the added benefit of killing any life in europa that may one day evolve and challenge the supremecy of America.

I dont think the ice caps hold enough water. Im mean, Im assuming we would want to have oceans and not just lakes.

I think there is enough water underground and at the ice caps

btw where did this willage idiot come from? Raoul Duke, Jr.

Durran Korr wrote:Well, you wouldn't exactly be starting a new civilization, wouldn't it just be an extension of Earth's civilization?

Exactly. For the first century, Earth would hold the Mars colony by the balls. Earth has to eat the initial startup costs, and it would be a very long time before Mars could produce enough to be completely debt-free and self-sufficient.

Nowhere in the solar system with be safe from the cleansing. Run all you want, the thermonuclear fire will still get you in the end.

TrailerParkJawa wrote:It just occured to me , where would we get the water? To terraform the planet I mean. Unless you are planning on those hidden machines in Total Recall.
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Mars has a lot of H20 locked up in it's polar ice-caps, in underground permafrost, and in hydrates.

TrailerParkJawa wrote:Would I go to Mars? Heck no! You would have to live your life in a protected environment. Im happy here.

As to relieving population, thats a big fantasy. There are far too many people born on Earth each year, to make any appreciable dent in population growth with colonization of other worlds.

Even if the Earths growth rate was 0% you still could not make a dent. Not when the population is 6 Billion +.

No amount of Martian/lunar/asteroid/space habitat/extrasolar colonization will relieve the population pressure on Earth. Even if you got to the point where you could export 1,000,000 people per year (and this would require a lot of really big ships,) it is still just a little more than 1/10th of the natural growth rate on Earth. Even if ZPG were achieved (Zero population growth,) it would take over 6000 years to completely depopulate Earth at the rate of 1,000,000 people per year.

Though Earth's comparatively limitless pool of emigrants would likely ensure that it remains at the center of any solar or interstellar empire it creates for at least the first one or two millenia. (Earth would be the sole source of emigrants until the colonies could breed enough people to become truly viable.)

Mars has a lot of H20 locked up in it's polar ice-caps, in underground permafrost, and in hydrates.

How much of this has been verified. The polar caps we can see, but didnt the last probe that went to Mars to look for water, smash into the surface ?

I vaugely remember they think they did take pictures of what looked like water escaping from underground after a landslide????

TrailerParkJawa wrote:

Mars has a lot of H20 locked up in it's polar ice-caps, in underground permafrost, and in hydrates.

How much of this has been verified. The polar caps we can see, but didnt the last probe that went to Mars to look for water, smash into the surface ?

I vaugely remember they think they did take pictures of what looked like water escaping from underground after a landslide????

The water-erosion features on Mars seem to be at least hundreds of millions of years old. The planet lost it's atmosphere pretty quickly (It has half of Earth's diameter, but about a third of it's mass.)

?! That's bizarre! Why is that, does anyone know? I mean, why is it that Mars as greater diameter than mass, I mean.

Once we land on Mars, we'll get the help of the native Martians, who built the canals of Mars, to terraform it. Then, they'll die out, or lose all their land but a small piece we don't care about.

oh... now I see how he became village idiot

I would definitely want to live on Mars. ^_^ Then we could come back to earth with big guns and big ships and take them over. =D

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:?! That's bizarre! Why is that, does anyone know? I mean, why is it that Mars as greater diameter than mass, I mean.

Because, Mars is less dense than Earth. Less iron and other metals.

the diameter cannot be greater than the mass of a planet, because we are
A) talking about lines versus areas
B) I don;t know but this is really stupid