StarDestroyer.Net BBS

I always assumed that the fact that they live longer was a natural occurance, rather than a result of some sort of medical technology.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I always assumed that the fact that they live longer was a natural occurance, rather than a result of some sort of medical technology.

That's not logical. We have present examples of humans rarely living past 100.

There's no proof of different humans in the GFFA, but there is proof of better medical technology. Which is the best conclusion available here?

To assume a species-wide genetic manipulation to both extent life and decellerate the aging process to me seems rather complicated.

Humans as a whole right now have longer average lifespans due to improved living conditions and medical advances, even as soon as within the last 100 years. For a species that has been spacefaring for maybe 50,000 years at the least, I don't see how it being a natural process is illogical, since it has fewer variables to rely on.

Also, SW humans who have reached and gone past 120 years are often depicted as being increadibly old, which doesn't seem to indicate a decellerated aging process.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:To assume a species-wide genetic manipulation to both extent life and decellerate the aging process to me seems rather complicated.

Strawman.

However, with the end of natural selection for possibly millions of years, I'd doubt very much that humans in the GFFA haven't used complex gene therapy to stave off evolutionary stagnation and decline.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Humans as a whole right now have longer average lifespans due to improved living conditions and medical advances, even as soon as within the last 100 years. For a species that has been spacefaring for maybe 50,000 years at the least, I don't see how it being a natural process is illogical, since it has fewer variables to rely on.

Proving my point. Better medical treatment, hygene, and diet is NOT a natural progress of people--what you said indicated that it was the natural biological course of SW humans to live until 150 or so--which is without evidence.

Biological and medical manipulation to slow aging and extend lifespans is exactly what I believed. That would NOT be natural lifespan.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Also, SW humans who have reached and gone past 120 years are often depicted as being increadibly old, which doesn't seem to indicate a decellerated aging process.

If they're not blind, deaf, senile, and half-crippled than they're doing better than their real-life equivalents half a century younger. I'd say they're analogous to eighty-something year olds. And again, remember that Bakura is an out-of-the-way colony, and probably outside the sphere of the best medical treatment and such. Look at the anti-aging by modern elites and celebrities. I imagine that galactic elites might live past 200 or so, even going so far as outright genetic life-extension.

Quite simply, unless they slowed aging, they'd not be there as much as they are a half-century beyond modern equivalents.

Ah, that's better.

To chime in on Pellaeon's age, Mr. Zahn made one mistake in writing TTT because he did not know the date of the prequels to the original trilogy (which makes sense given the book was written in 1991).

Relevant quote:

"The only real problem we had that is a glaring error in my books is that they would not give me a Clone Wars date until I was mostly done with book two ("Dark Force Rising"). The first book was already at the printers and they actually moved it back about fifteen years earlier than I had set it. As a result, the various numbers don't add up. When it talks about Pellaeon's age, they don't add up because there's this fifteen-year difference. They might have actually set it back a bit further when they set on "The Phantom Menace." - Timothy Zahn

In this way, Pellaeon has only been in Imperial service for 35 years as of HttE.

Any word on what'll happen with Anakin? Is he just still dead?

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:*snip*

A poster on TF.net, Valiento, developed the chronology compensating for later sources and the new prequels with regard to C'boath and Pelleaon.

I believe his service has still been for 50 years as of HttE. Remember, even if his numbers were screwed up, Zahn doesn't necessarily get to ret-con his own work (oops I better not use words like retcon for Connor's sake).

Stormbringer wrote:Any word on what'll happen with Anakin? Is he just still dead?

Yes and he's going to stay dead - To all the fans out there mourning for his death, I have but this to say" Life is shit - get to know that and get over his death - be thankful Ackbar's the only major GFFA figure that dies in the last book.

They better keep him dead. I nwas expecting ANakin to appear ghost style (like Yoda, Kenobie and Vader) at the end of the book in front of Jacen or someone.

2000AD wrote:They better keep him dead. I nwas expecting ANakin to appear ghost style (like Yoda, Kenobie and Vader) at the end of the book in front of Jacen or someone.

Well actually, somone does appear to Jacen - or rather, he hears...

...

But that would be telling and I've already spoiled enough of the book.

JME2 wrote:

2000AD wrote:They better keep him dead. I nwas expecting ANakin to appear ghost style (like Yoda, Kenobie and Vader) at the end of the book in front of Jacen or someone.

Well actually, somone does appear to Jacen - or rather, he hears...

...

But that would be telling and I've already spoiled enough of the book.

Its a fucking spolier thread and I already said what you are hinting at on the first page.

Reading: It's a good thing.

Stormbringer wrote:Any word on what'll happen with Anakin? Is he just still dead?

Deader then a fucking doorknob.

Ender wrote:

Stormbringer wrote:Any word on what'll happen with Anakin? Is he just still dead?

Deader then a fucking doorknob.

Thank you, Jacob Marley. I forgot about your revelation on the firt page so please, forgive me.

this book contradicts the last by pelleon saying he never raised children (though he could either be lying to prevent Han & leia from knowing and blaming themselves for his sons death, or he could have been absent in his son's life thus considers it that he never raised him).

Or that Pellaeon doesn't know, because its his bastard love child? Thats what I think.

Darth Fanboy wrote:

this book contradicts the last by pelleon saying he never raised children (though he could either be lying to prevent Han & leia from knowing and blaming themselves for his sons death, or he could have been absent in his son's life thus considers it that he never raised him).

Or that Pellaeon doesn't know, because its his bastard love child? Thats what I think.

So you get upset and the surge of emotion makes a jedi think you are upset it was about the death of your son, but really you didn't even know you had a child?

Ender wrote:

Darth Fanboy wrote:

this book contradicts the last by pelleon saying he never raised children (though he could either be lying to prevent Han & leia from knowing and blaming themselves for his sons death, or he could have been absent in his son's life thus considers it that he never raised him).

Or that Pellaeon doesn't know, because its his bastard love child? Thats what I think.

So you get upset and the surge of emotion makes a jedi think you are upset it was about the death of your son, but really you didn't even know you had a child?

A good commander always feel the loss of highly valuable subordinates deeply and I think that is what might have tipped Jaina off. That said I don't think Palleon is lying but rather Jaina confused his tone.

I think Pellaeon didn't know it was his son, but the two had a great relationship even without that knowledge. the son dies and the father is deeply saddened despite not knowing the connection, A bit of sad irony.

Or he could just be mourning for another son of the new Empire, cut down in his prime.

Or it could be that Pellaeon simply knew him fairly well. Friends with the family or some such.

Any way, my only complaint about Unifying Force is the scale of the battles. For two galatic forces going at each other, they didn't bring a lot of ships or people (despite the fact they've spent five years blowing the shit out of each other).

Who is this supposed child or close friend of Pellaeon?

He was an Imperial Naval officer I who was part of Pellaeon's task force in The Final Prophecy. He pilots a TIE Defender to help bail out Wedge and is shot down. Pellaeon doesn't take his death too well.

Arrow Mk84 wrote:Or it could be that Pellaeon simply knew him fairly well. Friends with the family or some such.

Wait, what if he was his godfather?

JME2 wrote:

Arrow Mk84 wrote:Or it could be that Pellaeon simply knew him fairly well. Friends with the family or some such.

Wait, what if he was his godfather?

Is there such a thing in SW?

Kuja wrote:

JME2 wrote:

Arrow Mk84 wrote:Or it could be that Pellaeon simply knew him fairly well. Friends with the family or some such.

Wait, what if he was his godfather?

Is there such a thing in SW?

Not necessarily, in fact probably not given the scarcity of organized religion but there's nothing to say that he couldn't have some equally close relationship. Certainly friends of the family exist. Look at Chewbacca or Lando, neither related but both were close to the Solo kids.