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Posted: 2003-11-20 05:14am
by PainRack
Illuminatus Primus wrote:PainRack wrote:The Chancellor Praetoran Guard, the Jedi Order would have something to do with that.
Didn't exist until Palpatine's administration. The only governmental entity that was as far-reaching as the Jedi were the Judicials, and they were rather weak.
I linked the two terms together. IOW, Praetoran Guard= Jedi Order.
Judical appears to fall under the aegis of the Republic Senate, but the Jedi report to one man only. The Chancellor.
Posted: 2003-11-20 02:49pm
by Publius
PainRack wrote:Judical appears to fall under the aegis of the Republic Senate, but the Jedi report to one man only. The Chancellor.
No, there is an established judiciary, although it appears that the some of the judges ("jurisconsults") are employees of the Judicial Department, which means that the courts and galactic police (such as it is) are part of the same organisation. This is roughly comparable to allowing the Department of Justice pick the Federal judges. Queen Amidala chose to make an appeal to the Senate not as a judicial matter, but as an alternative to the judicial solution (remember her remark that the courts take even longer to decide than the Senate).
There is a Supreme Court, but other than that it exists there is little known about it, except that it had original jurisdiction in the case against Nute Gunray and his conspirators and conducted trials against them four times. It would be interesting to know under what circumstances the Supreme Court itself would conduct trials; is it because Gunray was
de facto chief of state of the Trade Federation? Unfortunately, there is little evidence.
PUBLIUS
Posted: 2003-11-21 10:33am
by PainRack
Publius wrote:
No, there is an established judiciary, although it appears that the some of the judges ("jurisconsults") are employees of the Judicial Department, which means that the courts and galactic police (such as it is) are part of the same organisation. This is roughly comparable to allowing the Department of Justice pick the Federal judges. Queen Amidala chose to make an appeal to the Senate not as a judicial matter, but as an alternative to the judicial solution (remember her remark that the courts take even longer to decide than the Senate).
There is a Supreme Court, but other than that it exists there is little known about it, except that it had original jurisdiction in the case against Nute Gunray and his conspirators and conducted trials against them four times. It would be interesting to know under what circumstances the Supreme Court itself would conduct trials; is it because Gunray was de facto chief of state of the Trade Federation? Unfortunately, there is little evidence.
PUBLIUS
Judicary in the novelisation appears more to be galactic police than the courts. At least, that was the impression I gleaned.
Posted: 2003-11-21 02:09pm
by Publius
PainRack wrote:Judicary in the novelisation appears more to be galactic police than the courts. At least, that was the impression I gleaned.
The problem with that is that police functions belong to the executive, not to the judiciary. The Republic's Judicial Department straddles the line between the two, much as the Roman assemblies straddled the line between judicial and legislative functions.
PUBLIUS
Posted: 2003-11-21 03:31pm
by Illuminatus Primus
I'd also order that the special powers of the Jedi Order are granted by the Galactic Judiciary, but the Order itself is not part of the Republic government. They do not answer to the Supreme Chancellor, but he can request their services.