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Posted: 2003-11-28 09:31am
by Shroom Man 777
Who'd win? Boba Fett or Druge?

Posted: 2003-11-29 01:43am
by SylasGaunt
Boba would need a REALLY big gun to manage that I think.

Posted: 2003-11-29 09:11pm
by YT300000
SylasGaunt wrote:Boba would need a REALLY big gun to manage that I think.
Like his Kelvarek Consolidated Arms MM9 rocket launcher?

Posted: 2003-11-29 09:17pm
by Crazy Goji
YT300000 wrote:
SylasGaunt wrote:Boba would need a REALLY big gun to manage that I think.
Like his Kelvarek Consolidated Arms MM9 rocket launcher?
Maybe, but to make sure, I'd go with the main cannons on the Slave I. Remember, Durge can regenerate even if he has only one cell left, although it would probably take a really, really long time.

Posted: 2003-11-29 10:32pm
by YT300000
Crazy Goji wrote:
YT300000 wrote:
SylasGaunt wrote:Boba would need a REALLY big gun to manage that I think.
Like his Kelvarek Consolidated Arms MM9 rocket launcher?
Maybe, but to make sure, I'd go with the main cannons on the Slave I. Remember, Durge can regenerate even if he has only one cell left, although it would probably take a really, really long time.
To be honest I know jack shit about Durge.

Posted: 2003-11-29 10:38pm
by Crazy Goji
YT300000 wrote:
Crazy Goji wrote:
YT300000 wrote: Like his Kelvarek Consolidated Arms MM9 rocket launcher?
Maybe, but to make sure, I'd go with the main cannons on the Slave I. Remember, Durge can regenerate even if he has only one cell left, although it would probably take a really, really long time.
To be honest I know jack shit about Durge.
Oh, well, I think there's a Databank entry on him. He's one weird mofo.

Posted: 2003-11-29 11:01pm
by Montcalm
Shit i voted for the wrong Fett. :banghead:

Posted: 2003-11-30 12:04am
by SylasGaunt
YT300000 wrote: Like his Kelvarek Consolidated Arms MM9 rocket launcher?
Depends on how it compares to the anti-armor missile launchers we see the ARC Troopers carrying around because Durge took a hit from one in addition to sustained fire from easily a dozen clonetrooper rifles.

Posted: 2003-11-30 12:45am
by Ender
Rogue 9 wrote:
Ender wrote:I think its a bit hard to make a comparison, Jango seemed to go for more "bring them in", while Boba appears to go for more "bring back atleast 60% of the carcass". Capturing live prey is much harder then hauling a corpse, so their return ratio is going to be off.
Bombing an entire ship to get Senotor Amidala is "bring them in?" :wink: I'd hate to see Boba's methods, then. :shock:
That was Zam, not Jango.

Posted: 2003-11-30 12:47am
by Ender
2000AD wrote:
Boba Fett wrote:
Ender wrote:I think its a bit hard to make a comparison, Jango seemed to go for more "bring them in", while Boba appears to go for more "bring back atleast 60% of the carcass". Capturing live prey is much harder then hauling a corpse, so their return ratio is going to be off.
BOBA FETT: "What if he doesn't survive? He's worth a lot to me."

I would say Boba appears to go for more about the income value. :wink:
Hence his capture of the Devorian in Tales of the Bounty Hunters. Alive = 5 million, dead = squat !
Given the sheer numbr of canon contradictions in that book, I'm not certain it is official.

Posted: 2003-11-30 09:29pm
by YT300000
SylasGaunt wrote:
YT300000 wrote: Like his Kelvarek Consolidated Arms MM9 rocket launcher?
Depends on how it compares to the anti-armor missile launchers we see the ARC Troopers carrying around because Durge took a hit from one in addition to sustained fire from easily a dozen clonetrooper rifles.
Well, the clone troopers have PLX-1's, with . The later- and more powerful PLX-2M is standard loaded with 3t3's, comparable to the K26's Fett likes. Clouds of T12a's should also be useful.

Once (if) Fett breaks Durge's armour, a T12b would be extremely useful. Even a Gen'Dai should be knocked out by that much FGA-583.

Posted: 2003-11-30 10:37pm
by SylasGaunt
Also everything i've read says that missile you're referring to is the little one on his arm. And there's still the matter of the truly ludicrous amount of fire he took from the Clonetroopers after his armor was taken out.

Re: Who is the better Bounty Hunter? Jango or Boba?

Posted: 2003-12-01 06:46am
by Peregrin Toker
Crazedwraith wrote:Oh and Jango, he took down the entire bando gora cult and its twin red lightsabre weilding head-dark-jedi-chick in Star Wars Bounty Hunter.
I assume you're talking about Asajj Ventress?

Re: Who is the better Bounty Hunter? Jango or Boba?

Posted: 2003-12-01 07:35am
by Crazedwraith
Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Crazedwraith wrote:Oh and Jango, he took down the entire bando gora cult and its twin red lightsabre weilding head-dark-jedi-chick in Star Wars Bounty Hunter.
I assume you're talking about Asajj Ventress?
Komari Vosa

Posted: 2003-12-01 09:36pm
by YT300000
SylasGaunt wrote:Also everything i've read says that missile you're referring to is the little one on his arm. And there's still the matter of the truly ludicrous amount of fire he took from the Clonetroopers after his armor was taken out.
Yes, the MM9 is the little arm one. But it packs a punch (one K26 can annihilate a speeder bike).

Yes, the fire from the DC-15's is heavy (I'm basing on what others have, posted, having not seen any Clone War episodes) and I'm not sure if Fett can match it (or even survive long enough to match it), which is why I put an (if) in my last post. If he has his backpack launcher (whatever it is), it should help, and his EE-3 set to dump much of its power pack at once is also good. But really, I don't know enough about Durge to pass judgement.

EDIT: Is Durge's armour flammable? If so, then Fett's C-22 would really be useful.

Posted: 2003-12-01 11:34pm
by SylasGaunt
Yes, the MM9 is the little arm one. But it packs a punch (one K26 can annihilate a speeder bike).
The battle goes something like this.

Durge busts through the window in the Banking Clan HQ

He immediately comes under fire from a half dozen clonetroopers plus the ARC Trooper Sergeant. The ARC's got a pair of large blaster pistols and the clones all have standard rifles.

The fire takes out his pack and Durge hits the ground, still under fire from the clones when a second ARC trooper moves up and fires a missile from his PLX-1 Missile Launcher (Which we see destroy a Trade Federation AAT in an earlier episode). Everyone stops firing and clonetroopers move in to inspect the crater (note there are seven troopers here so that would seem to indicate more than just the half-dozen we see in frame with the ARC)

A tentacle like limb whips out and smashes the troopers aside. (here we see an additional 4 clonetroopers and when it cuts over to Obi-wan and the ARC trooper they have the half-dozen already accounted for. That brings things up to a minimum of 17 Clonetroopers plus the two ARCs). Durge pulls himself out of the crater and starts going after Obi-wan who gets clear of Durge using force speed just as he smashes the table they're on.

Grapple lines sink into Durge from the sides and Clonetroopers descend from above, firing their weapons. I count 8 coming from one side, six from the other. Durge takes quite a few hits before thrashing about, shaking the clones from their lines and charges Obi-wan whom he engulfs despite coming under fire from the ARC commander who then fires a dart and line into Durge's forehead and starts pumping him full of electricity. Durge seems to somehow send the current back down the line and blow the ARC off his feet before charging which is when Obi-Wan uses his telekinetic abilities from inside to make Durge explode.

Obi-wan gives himself a pat on the back, snaps off a one liner and when it cuts to a wider shot we see two puddles of the durge goo slithering off in opposite directions.

I could probably get a rough idea of how many hits he took using my VCR instead of the copy I have stored on my cable box if you like.

EDIT: And Durge's armor appears to be metal so I doubt it. Oh and in the previous episode he smacked Obi-wan around quite a bit despite having a lightsaber embedded in his chest (not to mention he was able to swing around a speeder bike like a baseball bat). And Boba's not the only one with a flamethrower either :twisted:

Posted: 2003-12-02 06:20am
by Boba Fett
What kind of armor Durge has?

Is it a normal body armor or some kind of "powersuit"?

Posted: 2003-12-02 03:21pm
by SylasGaunt
Star Wars.com referrs to it s High-Impact armor and we know it took quite a bit of fire before failing (not to mention it is apperantly strong enough that a lightsaber can't cut through it on its own, it needs the extra oomph of a stab or swing).

Posted: 2003-12-02 04:47pm
by Rogue 9
So does it employ cortosis ore? Wait, no, cortosis would overload the lightsaber and shut it off. Hmm. Wonder what would cause resistance to lightsabers...

Posted: 2003-12-02 08:50pm
by YT300000
SylasGaunt wrote:
Yes, the MM9 is the little arm one. But it packs a punch (one K26 can annihilate a speeder bike).
The battle goes something like this.

*snip*
In that case, Boba would probably lose. If he's in the open, he can use his Z-6 jetpack to stay away from Durge while shooting at him, but I doubt he has the raw firepower.

Posted: 2003-12-02 09:06pm
by SylasGaunt
Durge is armed as well. 2 blaster pistols, a flail, a flamethrower, needle shooter, and a pair of force field generators that make little shields he can block a lightsaber with.. and he has a jetpack to :)

Posted: 2003-12-02 09:32pm
by YT300000
SylasGaunt wrote:Durge is armed as well. 2 blaster pistols, a flail, a flamethrower, needle shooter, and a pair of force field generators that make little shields he can block a lightsaber with.. and he has a jetpack to :)
Fett loses for sure.

Posted: 2003-12-02 10:19pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Rogue 9 wrote:So does it employ cortosis ore? Wait, no, cortosis would overload the lightsaber and shut it off. Hmm. Wonder what would cause resistance to lightsabers...
Mandalorian Iron.

Posted: 2003-12-02 10:33pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Mandalorian Iron.
Didn't Exar Kun use his lightsaber to cut through the Mandalorian Iron protecting Freedon Nadd's sarchophagus?

Posted: 2003-12-03 04:36am
by SylasGaunt
Didn't Exar Kun use his lightsaber to cut through the Mandalorian Iron protecting Freedon Nadd's sarchophagus?
Well Obi-wan's lightsaber could still cut through Durge's armor but he had to be swinging or stabbing with it to penetrate. This is most noticeable after Durge smacks Obi-wan in the face, leaving the saber impaled through him where hte pull of gravity is apperantly insufficient pull to get it to cut through the armor. It's just resistant, not proof against sabers.