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The way I would probably go about accomplishing the goals I put above is...

Things would start on the diplomatic front, announcing that Germany is pushing for an alliance to defend against the Red threat. Italy would already be in on this move, and other countries in Eastern Europe would be strongly encouraged to join. Feelers would also be extended to America, in the hopes of at least getting them to be positive towards this alliance.

Next, I would have the board of generals begin drafting up plans for a possible invasion of Poland, and start moving the economy into a wartime footing. The development of advanced military hardware would be encouraged with economic incentives. The reasoning for this would be a response to increased Soviet military activity along the eastern frontier of Germany.

While the generals are drafting up their plans, diplomatic pressure is applied to Poland to make them join the anti-Red alliance. Economic incentives are offered to them--credit lines for purchasing fairly recent German hardware, etc. If they do not take the bait, more pressure can be applied. If they do take the bait, it means that Germany will have a friendly buffer state in front of the Red Army, and given time it can be used as a staging grounds for the military. Additionally, and this is the main intended goal, the move should hopefully force Stalin's hand and make him invade Poland.

If Stalin invades Poland first, then the German military forces that have been quietly gathering along the eastern border make their lightning strike into Poland to counter the Red Army, according to the plans laid down by the generals. There will, of course, be time allowed for Poland to attempt to defend itself before we move in; we don't want to look like the agressors, after all.

The German economy is immediately shifted into wartime footing, and after that... well, the idea is to destroy as much of the Red Army as possible in as little time. I suppose the post-Poland ideas can be worked on later.

I'd make a pact with Britain and the US to jointly take over France, because, well, they're fuckin' French, and piss me off.

But in all seriousness, I don't think taking France is in any way beneficial in the long run. So, perhaps a grand alliance between Germany, France, US, UK, and Japan, to fend off the pending Russian threat. After years of whats effectively NATO, suggest something more like the EU only more unified and based in Germany. In a hundred or two years, after working the nations into a single superstate, declare the Republic of Europe. But I'd probably be dead by then. LOL

That sort of sounds like the plot for Red Alert. Remember how Germany allied with the rest of Europe to fight against Russia?

kojikun your idea is just like mine but you included the US and I included Italy. Other than that there about the same.

1. As stated repeatedly before, none of the racist crap... Transporting the people tied up the railroad networks that could've been used for moving troops and supplies.

2. Do not attack Poland, but instead try to rally support against the Russians. If Russians invade it, then turn around and 'liberate' it.

3. Stop using Enigma. Or purposely feed bad information to the Allies with it.

4. Try to convince Japan to not attack the US. Hell, have them put off invading China and the other countries until Russia is subdued. And when they attack, go for the oil reserves instead of only the ships.

5. Find some way to kill off/abduct the people on the Manhattan Project.

4. Try to convince Japan to not attack the US. Hell, have them put off invading China and the other countries until Russia is subdued. And when they attack, go for the oil reserves instead of only the ships.

How do you do that after Roosevelt enacts oil embargo on Japan?

EmKay wrote:

4. Try to convince Japan to not attack the US. Hell, have them put off invading China and the other countries until Russia is subdued. And when they attack, go for the oil reserves instead of only the ships.

How do you do that after Roosevelt enacts oil embargo on Japan?

Actually, if Japan doesn't invade China, Roosevelt probably won't do this.

The real trick will be convincing the nationalist Japanese government to NOT attack China or attempt to fulfill any of their other imperialistic ambitions. It will be really hard, considering how proud the Japanese are - telling them to just TOLERATE Great Britain's colonies in Asia while sitting quietly themselves would be something like a slap to the face.

PeZook wrote: Actually, if Japan doesn't invade China, Roosevelt probably won't do this.

The real trick will be convincing the nationalist Japanese government to NOT attack China or attempt to fulfill any of their other imperialistic ambitions. It will be really hard, considering how proud the Japanese are - telling them to just TOLERATE Great Britain's colonies in Asia while sitting quietly themselves would be something like a slap to the face.

Bingo, you hit the problem right on the dot. Remember, Japan experience in the Great Depression empowered the militaristic elements which believed that only her own mercentile Empire of colonies will sustain Japan economic position.

Crayz9000 wrote:The way I would probably go about accomplishing the goals I put above is...

Things would start on the diplomatic front, announcing that Germany is pushing for an alliance to defend against the Red threat. Italy would already be in on this move, and other countries in Eastern Europe would be strongly encouraged to join. Feelers would also be extended to America, in the hopes of at least getting them to be positive towards this alliance.

Except for one thing. There already was a informal alliance, or a blink blink attitude between Britain, Italy and Germany vis a vis the Reds. Thats why the British tolerated the rise of Hitler and even signed a further naval treaty with her, empowering Germany navy further.