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Knife wrote:IIRC, in one of the comics; a ISD came out of lightspeed right on top of the Executer. The shields of the SSD shruged off the impact and the ISD was destroyed.

So there is an instance where something akin to what your proposing has happened and it doesn't work out too well. I've got to believe that the DeathStar shields are equal to if not better than the SSD.

Actually it was three Star destroyers

Connor MacLeod wrote:Actually it was three Star destroyers

I noticed on sw.com, that this is part of the Executor's official history on the Databank! That, and an ADMISSION about the changing size of the SSD!

So if the inertial compensator of a SSD shield is strong enough to hold back three incoming ISDs, a planetary shield generator would not even notice them ( I think ).

*sigh* Only a village idiot would think this would be a good tactic.

Knife wrote:IIRC, in one of the comics; a ISD came out of lightspeed right on top of the Executer. The shields of the SSD shruged off the impact and the ISD was destroyed.

Actually, it was 3 ISDs.

Edit: Woah, didn't see that there was a second page.

Connor MacLeod wrote:

Knife wrote:IIRC, in one of the comics; a ISD came out of lightspeed right on top of the Executer. The shields of the SSD shruged off the impact and the ISD was destroyed.

So there is an instance where something akin to what your proposing has happened and it doesn't work out too well. I've got to believe that the DeathStar shields are equal to if not better than the SSD.

Actually it was three Star destroyers

Okey dokey, still the point remains. Ramming the Death Star shield with cruisers would be stupid and a waste of material.

Why didn't they just put a droid in the transport, put in the codes and then when they were in Endor, they could bomb the shit out of the generator?

The Imperials would no doubt scan incoming ships for life signs. And I'm pretty certain there are no droid-crewed ships in the Imperial Fleet.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Why didn't they just put a droid in the transport, put in the codes and then when they were in Endor, they could bomb the shit out of the generator?

It was days after the strike team landed that the Rebel fleet showed up. They wouldn't have left the shield down that long.

Regarding the area of protection allowed by the shield generator at Endor, it would have had to have been a planetary shield. Otherwise, the Rebel fleet would have mercilessly bombarded the area around the generator (even if it offered Hoth-style protection) until either massive shockwaves from TLs or proton torpedoes blew it away, or the ground literally melted out from under it (a single Star Destroyer can accomplish this feat to a whole world in one hour, 6+ MC80s and dozens of lighter capships could have done it to a localized area in minutes).

Another alternative tactic I thought of:

Granted it wouldn't have been as effective taking out the reactor, and the Death Star's turbolasers would have eventually torn them to shreds, but...
How much damage could the Rebel fleet have done by pummeling the massive, unarmored exposed regions of the Death Star? Could they have dealt any critical, irrepairable damage to the superlaser or another vital system? Personally, once the shield was down, I would've sent fighters after Palpatine's tower. Just in case the battle went totally south.

Lazy Raptor wrote:

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Why didn't they just put a droid in the transport, put in the codes and then when they were in Endor, they could bomb the shit out of the generator?

It was days after the strike team landed that the Rebel fleet showed up. They wouldn't have left the shield down that long.

Well, the ship (with a suicide guy) would've come in a few hours before the Rebel fleet showed up and then bombed the shit out of the generator.

Would that be feasible?

My assumption was that the Shield Generator and bunker where inside the shields.

If that was the case while the Rebels could have tried orbital bombardment on the bunker the Imperial Fleet would have come out of hiding and killed the ship.

Lord Poe wrote:I noticed on sw.com, that this is part of the Executor's official history on the Databank! That, and an ADMISSION about the changing size of the SSD!

*checks it out*

What the..?

"The use of rare power gems allowed several Rebel ships to penetrate the Executor's shields and momentarily cripple the craft."

Revisionist history..?

I also found this:

http://www.holonetnews.com/49/jediwatch/13328_1.html


"Iridium
this planet was known for its infamous space pirates. The pirates used special power gems to generate a disruptive aura that allowed them to break through starship shields. Raskar held the last of the usable gems, until Han Solo and Chewbacca wrested it from him."

"Power Gem
these powerful stones emit an aura which disrupts starship energy shields, but their power faded after they were mined. They were determined to be pieces of rare meteorites which broke off from a single meteor. The pirates of Iridium used these power gems to disrupt the shields of the starships they attacked, making it easy for them to loot the defenseless ships. The pirates were eliminated by the Jedi Knights, and it was believed that the power gems were all destroyed in the battle. However, the last usable power gem was held by Raskar until someone could best him in battle and take it. What he didn't tell anyone is that the gem contained only enough power for one last use. Han Solo and Chewbacca were able to defeat Raskar and take possession of the gem, which was turned over to General Dodonna some years after the Battle of Yavin. The gem was used in a valiant attempt to disrupt the shields of the Executor by Vrad Dodonna, but the gem's failing strength only opened a small hole in its immense shields."

-Excerpt from TCUSWE, reference to Classic Star Wars.

nightmare wrote:

Lord Poe wrote:I noticed on sw.com, that this is part of the Executor's official history on the Databank! That, and an ADMISSION about the changing size of the SSD!

*checks it out*

What the..?

"The use of rare power gems allowed several Rebel ships to penetrate the Executor's shields and momentarily cripple the craft."

Revisionist history..?

I also found this:

http://www.holonetnews.com/49/jediwatch/13328_1.html


"Iridium
this planet was known for its infamous space pirates. The pirates used special power gems to generate a disruptive aura that allowed them to break through starship shields. Raskar held the last of the usable gems, until Han Solo and Chewbacca wrested it from him."

"Power Gem
these powerful stones emit an aura which disrupts starship energy shields, but their power faded after they were mined. They were determined to be pieces of rare meteorites which broke off from a single meteor. The pirates of Iridium used these power gems to disrupt the shields of the starships they attacked, making it easy for them to loot the defenseless ships. The pirates were eliminated by the Jedi Knights, and it was believed that the power gems were all destroyed in the battle. However, the last usable power gem was held by Raskar until someone could best him in battle and take it. What he didn't tell anyone is that the gem contained only enough power for one last use. Han Solo and Chewbacca were able to defeat Raskar and take possession of the gem, which was turned over to General Dodonna some years after the Battle of Yavin. The gem was used in a valiant attempt to disrupt the shields of the Executor by Vrad Dodonna, but the gem's failing strength only opened a small hole in its immense shields."

-Excerpt from TCUSWE, reference to Classic Star Wars.

*plays 3 Doors down Kryptonite*

Omega is living up to his title, I see.

Lord Pounder wrote:My assumption was that the Shield Generator and bunker where inside the shields.

If that was the case while the Rebels could have tried orbital bombardment on the bunker the Imperial Fleet would have come out of hiding and killed the ship.

With all the firepower the Alliance starships were throwing around at Endor the Imperial fleet couldn't have possibly killed them fast enough to stop the Rebels from slagging the surface. The shield generator would have literally sunk into the planet's mantle. When it comes to big fleet engagements like this, it's gotta be complete protection, otherwise it's worthless.

Lazy Raptor wrote:Another alternative tactic I thought of:

Granted it wouldn't have been as effective taking out the reactor, and the Death Star's turbolasers would have eventually torn them to shreds, but...
How much damage could the Rebel fleet have done by pummeling the massive, unarmored exposed regions of the Death Star? Could they have dealt any critical, irrepairable damage to the superlaser or another vital system? Personally, once the shield was down, I would've sent fighters after Palpatine's tower. Just in case the battle went totally south.

Wasn't that the back up plan anyway? "The cuisers will create a perimeter." Doesn't that emply that the cruisers will surround the Deathstar and start a slugging match?


Granted, that's before the rebel fleet knew that an Imperial taskforce would be there, but that seemed to be Plan B durring the briefing.

Knife wrote:IIRC, in one of the comics; a ISD came out of lightspeed right on top of the Executer. The shields of the SSD shruged off the impact and the ISD was destroyed.

So there is an instance where something akin to what your proposing has happened and it doesn't work out too well. I've got to believe that the DeathStar shields are equal to if not better than the SSD.

That was three ISDs actually. Although the Executor did temporarilly lose shields from the impact.

Knife wrote:

Lazy Raptor wrote:Another alternative tactic I thought of:

Granted it wouldn't have been as effective taking out the reactor, and the Death Star's turbolasers would have eventually torn them to shreds, but...
How much damage could the Rebel fleet have done by pummeling the massive, unarmored exposed regions of the Death Star? Could they have dealt any critical, irrepairable damage to the superlaser or another vital system? Personally, once the shield was down, I would've sent fighters after Palpatine's tower. Just in case the battle went totally south.

Wasn't that the back up plan anyway? "The cuisers will create a perimeter." Doesn't that emply that the cruisers will surround the Deathstar and start a slugging match?


Granted, that's before the rebel fleet knew that an Imperial taskforce would be there, but that seemed to be Plan B durring the briefing.

It was probably to prevent escaping Imperials, especially the Emperor.

It was probably to prevent escaping Imperials, especially the Emperor.

Also in case any Imperial ships tried to come out of lightspeed and engage the fighters.

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:With all the firepower the Alliance starships were throwing around at Endor the Imperial fleet couldn't have possibly killed them fast enough to stop the Rebels from slagging the surface. The shield generator would have literally sunk into the planet's mantle. When it comes to big fleet engagements like this, it's gotta be complete protection, otherwise it's worthless.

Actually, the Imperials out numbered the Rebellion in terms of major capital warships as well as possessing a general qualative edge. They might, and I stress only might, have been able to destroy the sheild generator in that manner but only at the cost of crippling losses. The Death Star II would have remained and the Rebellion would have been wiped out in terms of major military power.

Lazy Raptor wrote:Another alternative tactic I thought of:

Granted it wouldn't have been as effective taking out the reactor, and the Death Star's turbolasers would have eventually torn them to shreds, but...
How much damage could the Rebel fleet have done by pummeling the massive, unarmored exposed regions of the Death Star? Could they have dealt any critical, irrepairable damage to the superlaser or another vital system?

They did do that. It was a heavy enough barrage to shake the thing (its shifting makes Luke stumble while carrying Anakin to the shuttle

Lazy Raptor wrote:The Tyderium escapade could have been to get them onto the moon safely, not because they couldn't have bypassed the shield, but because the Imperial fleet at Endor would blown them out of the sky without breaking a sweat had they ignored the checkpoint.

Yeah, that would be why they requested that the shield be lowered ...

Honestly, would it make any sense to have a shield generator that's completely exposed to attack?