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Posted: 2004-02-23 03:01am
by EmperorMing
Make up a modern soldier for a character, with a skill tree to reflect.
Lets see, fire missions from artillery at higher levels, airstrikes, helicopter gunship hovering overhead and such. And must include a tank to "summon"...
It could replace the Amazon, as she is already a distance fighter.
Posted: 2004-02-23 04:47pm
by Hobot
Rogue 9 wrote:
However, logic also tells us that people can't throw fireballs and summon down the wrath of the heavens.

Good job smartass, you figured out the game isn't real.
I don't know if you noticed, but the main site is devoted to using logic to discuss and compare two fictional worlds. Logic is not restricted to real life scenarios.
Here's a breakdown if you still can't understand:
Water can be found throughout the game, it even rains, but that does not heal you. Therefore, it is obvious that the well shrines do not contain "ordinary well water", but are magically enhanced in some way.
Posted: 2004-02-23 06:39pm
by Korvan
The offical Diablo II site has the following to say regarding the barbarian skill Find Potion...
...By picking among the glands and entrails of the recently dead, a Barbarian warrior can sometimes scavenge enough ingredients to make a powerful healing elixir...
Those potions yer chugging down ain't just a bunch of herbs, they contain some animal (or demon) matter as well, which I imagine would include a fair bit of blood.
If your character is a vegan, no potions for you!!!
Posted: 2004-02-23 08:23pm
by neoolong
Stofsk wrote:How about a SW mod? You can have lightsabres, blasters, grenades - the monsters can be stormtroopers and alien monstrosities, and at the end you face Sith and Dark Jedi.
Ok, so it's a bit of a genre clash, but just think about it.
Uh, why not just play Knights of the Old Republic.

Posted: 2004-02-23 09:09pm
by YT300000
DPDarkPrimus wrote:YT300000 wrote:DPDarkPrimus wrote:You don't drink blood dude, it's a POTION.
You're sure? There are an awful lot of satanism things in that game, like the upside-down pentagon in the menu, and drinking blood just seems like a natural extension of it. It sure looks like blood, anyway.
So what's the blue stuff, then? Or the purple stuff?

Okay, fine. It's not blood. There. Happy?
Posted: 2004-02-23 09:13pm
by YT300000
PrinceofLowLight wrote:The Angelico idea could be interesting if you got some really good ideas for classes.
Here are some basic (crappy) class ideas.
Murderer (paladin)
Demon Rider [hey, it sounds cool] (barbarian)
Ex-Wife (amazon)
Warlock (necromancer)
Witch (sorceress)
The Ex-Wife would of course breath flames.
Posted: 2004-02-23 09:21pm
by Hobot
YT300000 wrote:
The Ex-Wife would of course breath flames.
lol, brilliant
Posted: 2004-02-23 09:32pm
by PrinceofLowLight
Hobot wrote:Rogue 9 wrote:
However, logic also tells us that people can't throw fireballs and summon down the wrath of the heavens.

Good job smartass, you figured out the game isn't real.
I don't know if you noticed, but the main site is devoted to using logic to discuss and compare two fictional worlds. Logic is not restricted to real life scenarios.
Here's a breakdown if you still can't understand:
Water can be found throughout the game, it even rains, but that does not heal you. Therefore, it is obvious that the well shrines do not contain "ordinary well water", but are magically enhanced in some way.
You can find water, and it does indeed rain. But the only time your character ever actually drinks water is from the wells. Ergo, water in the Diablo 2 universe has insane magical properties, and every townsperson is a moron for going through the trouble of brewing magical potions when they could just bottle water. So is your character, for that matter, for paying for that crap that probably tastes terrible and isn't even as good as water.
Flawless!
Posted: 2004-02-24 04:55am
by ArchMage
I like it! now the only thing that would need to be fixed is actually making Diablo 2 FUN.
I really like the idea of hitting God in the face with a hammer. allmighty my ass
Posted: 2004-02-24 05:59am
by Stofsk
neoolong wrote:Uh, why not just play Knights of the Old Republic.

It doesn't work on my computer, I'd need to double the RAM, add a 32mg video card and possibly even increase my processor speed (1.2AMD to 1.6) - that's for the "recommended" sys req. I bought the Xbox version, but I don't own an Xbox. So I bought the PC version, even though my PC can't support it. So I favour a Diablo 2 SW mod, because my computer can play that... but only on a good day.
(just to explain, so I don't make myself like a complete brainless wonder - my brother owns an Xbox and he lives at home, so I can play KOTOR but only when he's not around or only if I can coax him to give up the Xbox on occasion. In any case I know the PC version is marginally superior so I bought it, because I had the money and because I had a discount coupon so I could get it for $66AUD instead of the $90AUD it was being charged on the shelf. Of course, this has left me in a somewhat annoying position of having an excellent PC game which I can't play, coupled with an equally excellent Xbox game which I can
conditionally play. But, there's no greater motivation for upgrading one's computer than having a computer game stare out at you imploring - no,
begging - to be played.)
Posted: 2004-02-24 02:29pm
by Hypnotoad
I like the idea. There aren't many games where you can really play a bad guy. And just think of the controversy when it is revealed you battle God.
Posted: 2004-02-24 04:05pm
by Comosicus
Hypnotoad wrote:I like the idea. There aren't many games where you can really play a bad guy. And just think of the controversy when it is revealed you battle God.
I can see the picture:
your evil hero smashes and killes everything. Final level - final boss. After a bloddy battle you knock him down. Then, in the cutscene, when you came for the kill blow, he raises and starts laughing: "You proved to be entertaining, puny one. Now back to where you belong"

Posted: 2004-02-24 07:18pm
by ArchMage
only to have a hammer to the face.
'good, bad, im the guy with the Hammer'

Posted: 2004-02-24 10:44pm
by Slartibartfast
The idea is not so bad, a bit More of the Same (I suppose it would be practically the same game/characters in all but name).
The proposed title is just retarded tho.
Posted: 2004-02-24 11:25pm
by YT300000
Slartibartfast wrote:The idea is not so bad, a bit More of the Same (I suppose it would be practically the same game/characters in all but name).
The proposed title is just retarded tho.
What would you propose? Godlo?
It needs to reflect that the mod is a reversal of D2.
Posted: 2004-02-24 11:36pm
by Hypnotoad
Comosicus wrote:
I can see the picture:
your evil hero smashes and killes everything. Final level - final boss. After a bloddy battle you knock him down. Then, in the cutscene, when you came for the kill blow, he raises and starts laughing: "You proved to be entertaining, puny one. Now back to where you belong"

Yeah...and then "If I know God, He won't like being kicked in the groin." *Doink*
Posted: 2004-02-25 12:00am
by Rogue 9
Hypnotoad wrote:Comosicus wrote:
I can see the picture:
your evil hero smashes and killes everything. Final level - final boss. After a bloddy battle you knock him down. Then, in the cutscene, when you came for the kill blow, he raises and starts laughing: "You proved to be entertaining, puny one. Now back to where you belong"

Yeah...and then "If I know God, He won't like being kicked in the groin." *Doink*

God's God. He'd smash you good; you can't possibly beat that kind of power. If you're just me-tooing on the antitheism thing to impress people its not going to work. And if you honestly thing that God wouldn't just smite you good and be done with it you have an overdeveloped sense of game mechanics.

(Darn you, game mechanics! *Shakes fist.*)

Posted: 2004-02-25 02:08am
by Hypnotoad
Rogue 9 wrote:

God's God. He'd smash you good; you can't possibly beat that kind of power. If you're just me-tooing on the antitheism thing to impress people its not going to work. And if you honestly thing that God wouldn't just smite you good and be done with it you have an overdeveloped sense of game mechanics.

(Darn you, game mechanics! *Shakes fist.*)

Oh for pity's sake - we're talking about a god in a friggin' game. You neglect the fact that it'd be pretty uynlikely for a character to actually make his way into heaven and actually fight him now isn't it?
Yeesh.

Posted: 2004-02-25 02:39am
by Slartibartfast
YT300000 wrote:Slartibartfast wrote:The idea is not so bad, a bit More of the Same (I suppose it would be practically the same game/characters in all but name).
The proposed title is just retarded tho.
What would you propose? Godlo?
It needs to reflect that the mod is a reversal of D2.
Call it "archangel" (or "arcángel" if you want to get spanish with me), or angel, but Angelino or Angelico (which is an adjective, so you know) or Angelo doesn't sound right.
WTF is "godlo"? Do you think the translation of pencil is "pencilo"?
EDIT: btw, since Diablo refers to the lord of the hell, THE Devil (as opposed to a simple demon) the opposite would have to be called something related to God, who is also the ruler of heavens, as opposed to a simple angel. But please, pretty please don't call it Godo or Godlo.
Posted: 2004-02-25 03:27am
by ArchMage
as if The Devel wouldnt simply Smite you
I see no difference between 'God' and 'Diablo' in reference to this game... hell, real life
Posted: 2004-02-25 03:32am
by Ghost Rider
Stofsk wrote:neoolong wrote:Uh, why not just play Knights of the Old Republic.

It doesn't work on my computer, I'd need to double the RAM, add a 32mg video card and possibly even increase my processor speed (1.2AMD to 1.6) - that's for the "recommended" sys req. I bought the Xbox version, but I don't own an Xbox. So I bought the PC version, even though my PC can't support it. So I favour a Diablo 2 SW mod, because my computer can play that... but only on a good day.
(just to explain, so I don't make myself like a complete brainless wonder - my brother owns an Xbox and he lives at home, so I can play KOTOR but only when he's not around or only if I can coax him to give up the Xbox on occasion. In any case I know the PC version is marginally superior so I bought it, because I had the money and because I had a discount coupon so I could get it for $66AUD instead of the $90AUD it was being charged on the shelf. Of course, this has left me in a somewhat annoying position of having an excellent PC game which I can't play, coupled with an equally excellent Xbox game which I can
conditionally play. But, there's no greater motivation for upgrading one's computer than having a computer game stare out at you imploring - no,
begging - to be played.)
I now know what you must do.
Smite your brother with righteous fury and play KoTOR.
Posted: 2004-02-25 04:36am
by Slartibartfast
ArchMage wrote:as if The Devel wouldnt simply Smite you
I see no difference between 'God' and 'Diablo' in reference to this game... hell, real life
Just the name. Diablo = Devil. THE Devil.
EDIT: Sorry, I misread "difference" to "relationship", don't ask me how. Yeah they're pretty much the same thing.
Posted: 2004-02-25 01:35pm
by Rogue 9
ArchMage wrote:as if The Devel wouldnt simply Smite you
I see no difference between 'God' and 'Diablo' in reference to this game... hell, real life
Difference: In the context of assuming God's existence, God is the creator of the universe and the most powerful being in existence. Satan is not.
Posted: 2004-02-25 03:14pm
by BlkbrryTheGreat
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
I wouldn't consider the game to be Satanic, and I think Blizzard would be rather offended at that accusation.
Diablo I had upside down burning crosses in it....
Posted: 2004-02-25 03:25pm
by ArchMage
Rogue 9 wrote:Difference: In the context of assuming God's existence, God is the creator of the universe and the most powerful being in existence. Satan is not.
weak enough to be killed by some dude with a sword? (or bone arrow or whatever) I dont really want to get into a debate over how 'powerful' god is suppose to be, its been covered far too many times and not worth rehasing.
In the context of a game, if you can smite Satan with a Hammer or a bear or a mace or whatever, you can smite god. Specificly for Diablo, if they need some mortal to go take on the legions of Hell and engage The Devel in hand to hand combat because God cant do it himself, then he isnt that powerful. Thus, my hammer to Gods face would work in the context of the game.