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MKSheppard wrote:

Cyril wrote:Shep:

Gulf War I? Are you implying it's a miniseries or something?

Although, with with in office...

What? you think we're going to back down after all this sabre rattling?

The avalanche has already started.... rumble rumble......the war has
acquired a momentum of it's own....it can't be stopped now....

Actually the war which Sheppard called Gulf I really should be called the Second Persian Gulf war. Look at any book from the 1980's and what we today generally call the Iran Iraq war is called simply The Gulf War. Many still do call it that.

The almost certain upcoming invasion of Iraq could be called the Third Persian Gulf war, though it really is just a continuation of the second as there has be no peace treaty.

MKSheppard wrote:During the Gulf War I, our troops would amuse themselves by shooting the bloated Iraqi Corpses to see them pop. War tends to make things that weren't funny before become funny....

That may be true, but you're not a soldier and you haven't been in a war, so that doesn't explain why you think it's cool. It's just gross as far as I'm concerned.

PS. Shep, do you have any interests besides violence and right-wing ranting? You know, like flesh-and-blood women, or cars, or stereos, or, well ... anything?

Probably becuase he's mentally disturbed.

Darth Wong wrote:That may be true, but you're not a soldier and you haven't been in a war, so that doesn't explain why you think it's cool. It's just gross as far as I'm concerned.

PS. Shep, do you have any interests besides violence and right-wing ranting? You know, like flesh-and-blood women, or cars, or stereos, or, well ... anything?

Thats what I've been wondering for a long time....

Darth Wong wrote: PS. Shep, do you have any interests besides violence and right-wing ranting? You know, like flesh-and-blood women, or cars, or stereos, or, well ... anything?

Yeah. what about you? Any interests other than ranting about creationists?

You know, the head almost looks like a mask. It seems pretty fake.

MKSheppard wrote:

Darth Wong wrote: PS. Shep, do you have any interests besides violence and right-wing ranting? You know, like flesh-and-blood women, or cars, or stereos, or, well ... anything?

Yeah. what about you? Any interests other than ranting about creationists?

Science, sci-fi, two kids, and a wife. And I volunteer for the Boy Scouts. Frankly, I think that sounds a lot more well-rounded than you, Shep.

Ted wrote:You know, the head almost looks like a mask. It seems pretty fake.

I was kinda thinking the same thing, that it might be fake.

Then again, I've been learning that Real Life violence looks pretty fake.

Darth Wong wrote: Science, sci-fi, two kids, and a wife. And I volunteer for the Boy Scouts. Frankly, I think that sounds a lot more well-rounded than you, Shep.

I would have thought you'd be demonstrating against the Boy Scouts....
or is your gripe with the American Boy Scouts?

Anyway....I like trains, book collecting, and of course the ever popular
PC Game category...and of course, a dog and ferret....

Meh, rounded enough for you, Wong?

And I volunteer for the Boy Scouts.

Good to hear it, Best thing one can do to kids is to get them in the scouts and out blowing stuff up and shooting things

Well at least in the South(I got kicked out of my troop way back because I switched from Agnotstic(Which they tolerate) to Atheist)

But its a good thing to take young minds get them in nature, fifty miles form anything vaguly resembling a McDonals

Then leave them there and remind them next time be prepared

MKSheppard wrote:
I would have thought you'd be demonstrating against the Boy Scouts....
or is your gripe with the American Boy Scouts?

Considering that the Canadian Scouts are on the whole much more tolerant, I'd wager it's with American Scouts.

MKSheppard wrote:

Darth Wong wrote:Science, sci-fi, two kids, and a wife. And I volunteer for the Boy Scouts. Frankly, I think that sounds a lot more well-rounded than you, Shep.

I would have thought you'd be demonstrating against the Boy Scouts....
or is your gripe with the American Boy Scouts?

Correct. The American Boy Scouts refuse entry to atheists.

Anyway....I like trains, book collecting, and of course the ever popular PC Game category...and of course, a dog and ferret....

Meh, rounded enough for you, Wong?

No. I don't see any humans or human-centred activities in your list of interests. That is precisely what I expected from you.

Darth Wong wrote: No. I don't see any humans or human-centred activities in your list of interests. That is precisely what I expected from you.

So what if I am not Mr. Popular? I don't feel the need to be insanely
popular, with parties over at my place every weekend.

MKSheppard wrote:

Darth Wong wrote: No. I don't see any humans or human-centred activities in your list of interests. That is precisely what I expected from you.

So what if I am not Mr. Popular? I don't feel the need to be insanely
popular, with parties over at my place every weekend.

No, but it does go along way towards explaining why you're an insensitive prick.

MKSheppard wrote: So what if I am not Mr. Popular? I don't feel the need to be insanely popular, with parties over at my place every weekend.

Who said anything about being insanely popular? I'm just talking about not being so goddamned anti-social. All of your attitudes toward your fellow human beings are misanthropic. You view people either as threats, obstacles, or targets, and you deride anyone who doesn't as a naive little fool. You believe women are inherently untrustworthy and it goes without saying that you snort with contempt at those who believe in romantic love. Is that really the way you want to go through the rest of your life?

Darth Wong wrote:

MKSheppard wrote: So what if I am not Mr. Popular? I don't feel the need to be insanely popular, with parties over at my place every weekend.

Who said anything about being insanely popular? I'm just talking about not being so goddamned anti-social. All of your attitudes toward your fellow human beings are misanthropic. You view people either as threats, obstacles, or targets, and you deride anyone who doesn't as a naive little fool. You believe women are inherently untrustworthy and it goes without saying that you snort with contempt at those who believe in romantic love. Is that really the way you want to go through the rest of your life?

Actually, that sounds more like Falk.

Stormbringer wrote:

MKSheppard wrote:
I would have thought you'd be demonstrating against the Boy Scouts....
or is your gripe with the American Boy Scouts?

Considering that the Canadian Scouts are on the whole much more tolerant, I'd wager it's with American Scouts.

There both directly copied from the same British organization.

Darth Wong wrote:

MKSheppard wrote:During the Gulf War I, our troops would amuse themselves by shooting the bloated Iraqi Corpses to see them pop. War tends to make things that weren't funny before become funny....

That may be true, but you're not a soldier and you haven't been in a war, so that doesn't explain why you think it's cool. It's just gross as far as I'm concerned.

PS. Shep, do you have any interests besides violence and right-wing ranting? You know, like flesh-and-blood women, or cars, or stereos, or, well ... anything?

Er...look at his new avatar, DW. BTW Shep, which site did you get that from? I've seen it before, but I can't quite place it.

Sea Skimmer wrote:

Stormbringer wrote:

MKSheppard wrote:
I would have thought you'd be demonstrating against the Boy Scouts....
or is your gripe with the American Boy Scouts?

Considering that the Canadian Scouts are on the whole much more tolerant, I'd wager it's with American Scouts.

There both directly copied from the same British organization.

But the American version is run by a bunch of borderline religious fundies. They've excluded atheists and gays, at least at the national level. Some of the councils have quietly ignored that though.

IG-88E wrote:

Darth Wong wrote:PS. Shep, do you have any interests besides violence and right-wing ranting? You know, like flesh-and-blood women, or cars, or stereos, or, well ... anything?

Er...look at his new avatar, DW.

I was alluding to an interest in women as people, not objects.

Oh. You should've clarified.

Darth Wong wrote:

IG-88E wrote:

Darth Wong wrote:PS. Shep, do you have any interests besides violence and right-wing ranting? You know, like flesh-and-blood women, or cars, or stereos, or, well ... anything?

Er...look at his new avatar, DW.

I was alluding to an interest in women as people, not objects.

To Shep everyone else is a thing. He sees them as little cardboard cut outs created solely for the benefit of Shep. And he get's pissed if they don't fit into that fucked up world view.

Stormbringer wrote:But the American version is run by a bunch of borderline religious fundies. They've excluded atheists and gays, at least at the national level. Some of the councils have quietly ignored that though.

Exactly. The Canadian Scouts tell you that you don't have to tell them what your religion (or lack thereof) is if you don't want to. The American Scouts tell you that if you don't believe in the Judeo-Christian God, you can't join. Not exactly the same thing.

PS. The American and Canadian nations were also descended from Britain. Does that mean they're the same?

Darth Wong wrote:Exactly. The Canadian Scouts tell you that you don't have to tell them what your religion (or lack thereof) is if you don't want to. The American Scouts tell you that if you don't believe in the Judeo-Christian God, you can't join. Not exactly the same thing.

PS. The American and Canadian nations were also descended from Britain. Does that mean they're the same?

Mike, not to sheild the national council (they deserve whatever bashing they get) but quite a few of the councils and a goo deal of the troops (including the one in which I used to be a member) decided to ignore then rules regarding that. A lot of it's the leadership at the top, fundies mostly. But the organization is pretty decent at the lower levels.

Yep. I know of at least one troop filled with atheists and goths.