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Posted: 2004-04-12 06:56pm
by General Zod
StarWars.com wrote:There's been some confusion of late regarding the 'Infinities' symbol, and Star Wars Expanded Universe continuity in general. Terms like "canon" and "continuity" tend to get thrown around casually, which doesn't help at all.
When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves - and only the films. Even novelizations are interpretations of the film, and while they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences. The novelizations are written concurrently with the film's production, so variations in detail do creep in from time to time. Nonetheless, they should be regarded as very accurate depictions of the fictional Star Wars movies.

The further one branches away from the movies, the more interpretation and speculation come into play. LucasBooks works diligently to keep the continuing Star Wars expanded universe cohesive and uniform, but stylistically, there is always room for variation. Not all artists draw Luke Skywalker the same way. Not all writers define the character in the same fashion. The particular attributes of individual media also come into play. A comic book interpretation of an event will likely have less dialogue or different pacing than a novel version. A video game has to take an interactive approach that favors gameplay. So too must card and roleplaying games ascribe certain characteristics to characters and events in order to make them playable.

The analogy is that every piece of published Star Wars fiction is a window into the 'real' Star Wars universe. Some windows are a bit foggier than others. Some are decidedly abstract. But each contains a nugget of truth to them. Like the great Jedi Knight Obi-Wan Kenobi said, 'many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view.'

Returning to the question at hand. Yes, Star Wars Gamer is part of continuity, though as game material, there is room for interpretation. Only specific articles marked with the 'Infinities' logo within the magazine should be considered out of continuity.

Fans of the old monthly Marvel Star Wars comic will be heartened to know that LucasBooks does indeed consider them part of continuity. Decades of retrospect haven't been kind to all the elements of the comic series, but the characters and events still hold weight and are referenced in newer material whenever possible.

In order to allow unlimited freedom of storytelling, the Infinities label has been placed on the anthology series, Star Wars Tales. This means that not only can the stories occur anywhere in the Star Wars timeline, but stories can happen outside continuity. Basically, if an event happens in Tales, it may not have necessarily happened in the rest of the expanded universe. For some stories, the distinction is largely inconsequential. For others, it's the only way they could exist (for example, there's a Darth Vader vs. Darth Maul comic coming soon).
a brief description of what's considered canon from the star wars website itself.

Posted: 2004-04-12 06:59pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
It's somewhat unfortunate that more discussion participents don't bother to actually check to make sure what the rules and guidelines are (seriously, some of this stuff has been established for several years).

Either that or their memories are for shit (on purpose or by accident). :|

Posted: 2004-04-12 07:14pm
by Luzifer's right hand
Does someone know which endings of KOTOR and JK3:JA are canon?

Posted: 2004-04-12 07:15pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
I would assume the "good" endings.

Posted: 2004-04-12 07:18pm
by Ghost Rider
Luzifer's right hand wrote:Does someone know which endings of KOTOR and JK3:JA are canon?
For KoTOR a tad bit unknown...The Light side is the ending but as to Revan being Male or Female the creators have not said a word.

In G&C a good many have come to a rather unscientific choice that Revan is a guy.

For JK3:JA...likely the light given how the Dark Ending goes.

Posted: 2004-04-12 07:28pm
by Luzifer's right hand
thanks.

It's sad I liked the dark side endings of both games more than the light side endings.

Posted: 2004-04-12 07:46pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Kyle Katarn is alive, ergo he wasn't killed by an apprentice-turned-dark.

Posted: 2004-04-12 07:57pm
by YT300000
With JA, it is possible, however unlikely, that the Dark Side ending is the correct one. After all, Tavion dies either way, and Kyle lives. Kyle could simply catch up to and kill Jaden later, since, as he said: I'm taking a leave of absence from the Academy. Jaden was my student, and is my responsibility.

Rosh never crops up again in the EU, so all the inconsistencies are neatly dealt with.
Kyle Katarn is alive, ergo he wasn't killed by an apprentice-turned-dark.
Kyle climbed out of the rock pile, remember?