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Posted: 2002-10-24 12:13pm
by Vympel
So they used a silencer for each shooting?

Posted: 2002-10-24 12:15pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
I thought they just used a flash supressor.

Posted: 2002-10-24 12:19pm
by MKSheppard
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I thought they just used a flash supressor.
HHAHAHHAH AHA HAHAHA

Those things don't even work that well...You take a huge ball of flame from
a rifle at night and turn it into a moderately sized ball of flame.....

they work by redirecting the muzzle blast sideways so that instead of a giant
ball of flame pointing back at the shooter, you have a ball of flame around you...

it's hell on ears though...

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Posted: 2002-10-24 12:21pm
by Vympel
So no silencer?

Posted: 2002-10-24 12:25pm
by MKSheppard
Vympel wrote:So no silencer?
Now, silencers actually work...they're the best flash suppressant device
too, because all of the explosive gasses are spent by the time
they exit the silencer, so no huge flashes...

Posted: 2002-10-24 12:26pm
by Vympel
Wonder what gun they were using. .223 of course but apart from that ...

Posted: 2002-10-24 12:34pm
by MKSheppard
Vympel wrote:Wonder what gun they were using. .223 of course but apart from that ...
Heard it's a Bushmaster .223 rifle, which means it's an AR-15 clone...
in fact, my AR-15 was a Bushmaster rifle.....

HEY, don't look at me that way...

http://www.bushmaster.com/
Their site....down because of media idiots refreshing on it for info...

http://www.pun.org/pix/bushmaster.jpg
Pic of Bushmaster
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Something that did make me laugh were the markings on the magazine:

This stupidity as a result of the 1994 Federal ban on "assault weapons" in the US. Machinegun manufacture was banned in 1986 (for sale to civilians), but because the bans are two different laws, the fully-automatic guns don't have to have any special markings, whereas the semi-auto guns and all new magazines have to have the markings in the picture. Doesn't make sense but gun laws rarely do.

Posted: 2002-10-24 12:43pm
by Durandal
Did this guy's training in the Army include sniper training?

By the way, the New York Times reported that he was a recent convert to Islam.

Posted: 2002-10-24 12:44pm
by Darth Wong
Durandal wrote:Did this guy's training in the Army include sniper training?

By the way, the New York Times reported that he was a recent convert to Islam.
No, he wasn't a sniper. But from the ranges he was firing at, I suppose anyone with military training could have done it.

Posted: 2002-10-24 12:45pm
by Stormbringer
Darth Wong wrote:
Durandal wrote:Did this guy's training in the Army include sniper training?

By the way, the New York Times reported that he was a recent convert to Islam.
No, he wasn't a sniper. But from the ranges he was firing at, I suppose anyone with military training could have done it.
Anyone thats ever done some serious deer hunting could do it. It's not a too difficult.

Posted: 2002-10-24 12:45pm
by MKSheppard
Darth Wong wrote: No, he wasn't a sniper. But from the ranges he was firing at, I suppose anyone with military training could have done it.
A five year old child could have done it with 15 minutes of training...

Posted: 2002-10-24 12:46pm
by Durandal
What ranges was he firing at?

Posted: 2002-10-24 12:51pm
by MKSheppard
Durandal wrote:What ranges was he firing at?
Under 100 yards.....a child could do that...I've scored bullseyes
at 100 yds with no prior training on an AR-15 and without a scope...

Posted: 2002-10-24 12:57pm
by jegs2
Kelly Antilles wrote:
EmperorMing wrote:*If* these are the correct guys... :evil:

I'm gonna try and avoid saying anything until the picture is clearer...

Then take their friggin' heads off!
I'd like to see the return of public lynchings and beheadings. That would be cool.
There is something to be said for public executions (hood, last words, noose around neck, floor beneath vanishing, etc.). Gives those on death row lots to think about before ascending that stairway to death amid jeering crowds of non-wellwishers...

Posted: 2002-10-24 01:00pm
by Durandal
Nothing like proving your own moral superiority by masochistically deriving enjoyment from watching someone swing on a noose and throwing things at him. We've sure reached the apex of civilization...

Posted: 2002-10-24 01:01pm
by jegs2
Durandal wrote:Nothing like proving your own moral superiority by masochistically deriving enjoyment from watching someone swing from a noose.
Amen! Get a rope!

Posted: 2002-10-24 01:38pm
by Knife
jegs2 wrote:
Durandal wrote:Nothing like proving your own moral superiority by masochistically deriving enjoyment from watching someone swing from a noose.
Amen! Get a rope!
Get four. And while your at it get four horses as well.

Posted: 2002-10-24 01:39pm
by Stormbringer
Knife wrote:
jegs2 wrote:
Durandal wrote:Nothing like proving your own moral superiority by masochistically deriving enjoyment from watching someone swing from a noose.
Amen! Get a rope!
Get four. And while your at it get four horses as well.
Wow, drawing and quartering. That's an oldy but goody.

Posted: 2002-10-24 01:40pm
by Knife
If your going to do it for the public enjoyment, might as well get a good show out of it. Don't ya think?

Posted: 2002-10-24 01:42pm
by Stormbringer
Knife wrote:If your going to do it for the public enjoyment, might as well get a good show out of it. Don't ya think?
For that I still think the Romans did it best. Gladiatorial fights to death!

Posted: 2002-10-24 01:45pm
by Knife
Stormbringer wrote:
Knife wrote:If your going to do it for the public enjoyment, might as well get a good show out of it. Don't ya think?
For that I still think the Romans did it best. Gladiatorial fights to death!
Yeah, but for these two fuckwads the kind of Gladiatorial fights that happened with lions and tigers and bears, Oh my.

Posted: 2002-10-24 01:47pm
by Kuja
Release him naked and unarmed in Times Square and take bets on how long he'll last. :twisted:

Posted: 2002-10-24 01:49pm
by jegs2
IG-88E wrote:Release him naked and unarmed in Times Square and take bets on how long he'll last. :twisted:
....with "DEATH TO AMERICA!" and "I HATE NYC!" tattooed to his torso and back...

Posted: 2002-10-24 01:53pm
by Kelly Antilles
jegs2 wrote:
IG-88E wrote:Release him naked and unarmed in Times Square and take bets on how long he'll last. :twisted:
....with "DEATH TO AMERICA!" and "I HATE NYC!" tattooed to his torso and back...
You know... that's just really cruel.

But, some people deserve it.

Posted: 2002-10-24 01:58pm
by Kuja
Kelly Antilles wrote:
jegs2 wrote:
IG-88E wrote:Release him naked and unarmed in Times Square and take bets on how long he'll last. :twisted:
....with "DEATH TO AMERICA!" and "I HATE NYC!" tattooed to his torso and back...
You know... that's just really cruel.

But, some people deserve it.
I've got a cousin living in DC FYI, and I've been driving myself nuts worrying about him. This SOB sniper deserves everything we throw at him.