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Posted: 2002-10-24 09:17pm
by The Duchess of Zeon
Darth Yoshi wrote:What's up with these people? I have no particular love of America, either; to quote Calvin's dad, "I just live here." But why are Christian fundies supporting the actions of Islamic fundies? It just doesn't make sense.
The goal of most religious fundies on the Pat Buchanan, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc, scale of the Extreme Conservative part of America is to
disengage from the world. They want to create a "traditional values" America, with an Israeli West-Bank Fence running from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean to keep Mexicans out, they want to bring our troops back home and, even at a massive hit to our economy, abandon our foreign trade to the dogs.
They're neo-isolationists in addition to be moralists. Therefore, their plans fit in with those of Islamic terror perfectly, at least in the relatively short term, because if they won then the USA would become a willing isolated world backwater with imposed Christian fundamentalism, which would happily let the Islamic world do whatever the hell it wanted to its self.
Furthermore, some of the racists on the Far Wacko have even proposed herding all the Blacks in the country into one region, and letting Louis Farrakhan rule it. Louis Farrakhan likes the idea; he just wants more of the USA and would want to herd the whites into the smaller portion.
This is why even the possibility of
collaboration between Neo-Nazis and Islamists isn't entirely impossible - Their goal, making the US government weak and unable to intervene in the world at large, is the same. It's only after that, that their priorities diverge.
Posted: 2002-10-24 09:19pm
by jegs2
Captain Lennox wrote:Darth Yoshi wrote:Where is Kansas? No, seriously. Where is it?
South of Nebreaska, directly west of Missiouri. Tip: might want too look a map now and then.

j/k
Kansas is one of those rectangle states in the middle of the country...
Posted: 2002-10-24 09:26pm
by Alyrium Denryle
TrailerParkJawa wrote:These guys are gonna come out and protest one of the High Schools near me, because they are putting on a play about the Mathew Shepard killings.
The local radio station had the daughter of the guy who runs the organization talk a few weeks ago.
She was so full of hate you could feel it over the air. Of course she had to consitancy either. Just picking and choosing bible passages, and of course there is only ONE WAY to interpet them, their way.
What a bunch of morons. But yes, this is the price we pay for the priveledge and duty to be Americans. We have to let idiots like this hold their signs.
But you see, what they dont understand is they are hurting their own cause. I wonder if one of their own kids was killed in NYC if they would protest themselves.
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edit: changed protect to protest
My hight school just so happens to be producing the Laramie project this year. I wonder if the evil is going to protest us as well? I play Father Roger schmit, Dennis Shepart, the arraignment judge, and an angry email writer.
Posted: 2002-10-24 09:29pm
by Steve
If they appreciate the Saudis' efforts so much, let's drop them in a street in Riyadh.

Posted: 2002-10-24 09:30pm
by Steve
Darth Wong wrote:Their God is an asshole anyway. Fuck him and fuck them.
My God, on the other hand, is still shaking his head and wondering why the hell he let those Israelite militarist morons write the Old Testament in the fashion they did.
Posted: 2002-10-24 09:32pm
by Steve
Or, on second thought.... drop them near Ground Zero. With their placards.

Posted: 2002-10-24 09:33pm
by Darth Wong
Steve wrote:Darth Wong wrote:Their God is an asshole anyway. Fuck him and fuck them.
My God, on the other hand, is still shaking his head and wondering why the hell he let those Israelite militarist morons write the Old Testament in the fashion they did.
Maybe because he doesn't exist?
Posted: 2002-10-24 10:21pm
by starfury
The goal of most religious fundies on the Pat Buchanan, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc, scale of the Extreme Conservative part of America is to disengage from the world. They want to create a "traditional values" America, with an Israeli West-Bank Fence running from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean to keep Mexicans out, they want to bring our troops back home and, even at a massive hit to our economy, abandon our foreign trade to the dogs.
They're neo-isolationists in addition to be moralists. Therefore, their plans fit in with those of Islamic terror perfectly, at least in the relatively short term, because if they won then the USA would become a willing isolated world backwater with imposed Christian fundamentalism, which would happily let the Islamic world do whatever the hell it wanted to its self.
Furthermore, some of the racists on the Far Wacko have even proposed herding all the Blacks in the country into one region, and letting Louis Farrakhan rule it. Louis Farrakhan likes the idea; he just wants more of the USA and would want to herd the whites into the smaller portion.
This is why even the possibility of collaboration between Neo-Nazis and Islamists isn't entirely impossible - Their goal, making the US government weak and unable to intervene in the world at large, is the same. It's only after that, that their priorities diverge.
wow, that is a scary thought, a unholy alliance of all these religious wackos

Posted: 2002-10-24 11:13pm
by Cal Wright
Down South? No fucking way, we would have burned them when they stepped out the front door.
Posted: 2002-10-24 11:22pm
by Steve
Darth Wong wrote:Steve wrote:Darth Wong wrote:Their God is an asshole anyway. Fuck him and fuck them.
My God, on the other hand, is still shaking his head and wondering why the hell he let those Israelite militarist morons write the Old Testament in the fashion they did.
Maybe because he doesn't exist?
Well, considering I'm deist, it's probably some sort of cosmic "no interference" rule.

Posted: 2002-10-24 11:47pm
by EmperorMing
Darth Wong wrote:Their God is an asshole anyway. Fuck him and fuck them.
Their god is not *my* god. These guys are way twisted out of proportion...

Posted: 2002-10-24 11:49pm
by EmperorMing
Steve wrote:If they appreciate the Saudis' efforts so much, let's drop them in a street in Riyadh.

Yeah, and they wouldn't be allowed to preach christianity in any form, by law. Would serve them right...

Posted: 2002-10-24 11:52pm
by EmperorMing
Me and anyone else who has worn a uniform knows that we have also protected their *right* to free speech (and protest), even if it is shit like this...
Still pathetic of these assholes to act like this...

Posted: 2002-10-25 12:41am
by Uraniun235
Steve wrote:Darth Wong wrote:Steve wrote:
My God, on the other hand, is still shaking his head and wondering why the hell he let those Israelite militarist morons write the Old Testament in the fashion they did.
Maybe because he doesn't exist?
Well, considering I'm deist, it's probably some sort of cosmic "no interference" rule.

You're saying God has to play by the Prime Directive too?

Posted: 2002-10-25 12:49am
by EmperorMing
Uraniun235 wrote:Steve wrote:Darth Wong wrote:
Maybe because he doesn't exist?
Well, considering I'm deist, it's probably some sort of cosmic "no interference" rule.

You're saying God has to play by the Prime Directive too?

Something like that...
Even God is a trekkie...

Posted: 2002-10-25 08:39am
by Lagmonster
Darth Wong wrote:Their God is an asshole anyway. Fuck him and fuck them.
I wonder if that would be some sort of therapy for them?
"You still believe in God? Maybe this parade of hookers will change your mind. Still screaming damnations? Okay, boys, lock him in the PORN ROOM with Candy and Misty for our 'special conditioning'. We'll win these bastards back yet."
Posted: 2002-10-25 12:10pm
by Guest
Well, if Bush ever needs to declare martial law in the US I wouldn't be sad to see those clowns disappear forever.
Re: Traitors to Humanity-Death is the future-The future is N
Posted: 2002-10-25 12:23pm
by Knife
Cyril wrote:
Traitors, bastards, hatemongers...death! DEATH TO THEM ALL!
Wholey fucking shit, what the flying fuck is this horse shit. You can possibly tell me these fucking rejects from evolution are fucking with MY Corps. Then they got the overies to diss the NYFD and NYPD. Their out of their god preachen fucking mind. The fucktards are shitting on the very people who protect them from the other assholes who would easily and gladdly kill them not to mention the ones who douse the flames on the god damn house. First Ammendment my ass, next time some dick head is holding a gun to their head don't call my berthern or the cops just prey to you stupid god to save you. I hope the fire department lets their house's burn down.
YOU CAN FUCK WITH ME, BUT YOU CAN'T FUCK WITH THE CORPS.
Please excuse vulgarity and misspelled words, they are a product of rage.
Posted: 2002-10-25 12:29pm
by Wicked Pilot
If they say about the Air Force what they say about the Marines, their church might just get "accidently" hit by a stray bomb.
Posted: 2002-10-25 12:31pm
by Knife
Wicked Pilot wrote:If they say about the Air Force what they say about the Marines, their church might just get "accidently" hit by a stray bomb.
Fuck that, nothing is as up close and personal as a punch to the brain housing group.
Urge to kill still rising.
Posted: 2002-10-25 01:30pm
by Yogi
www.godhatesfags.com wrote:WBC to picket fag-enabler Jerry Falwell, his Arminian church & university, and his erstwhile faggot friend Mel White's "march for equality around Lynchburg" -- Oct. 26 & 27 -- in religious protest & warning: 'God is not mocked!' God Hates Fags! & Fag-Enablers! Ergo, God hates Falwell, his church, his university, and Mel White!
Wow! Those guys hate Jerry Fawell because he's not conservative ENOUGH.
Yeep.
Posted: 2002-10-25 03:29pm
by HemlockGrey
And THAT is scary as hell.
Posted: 2002-10-25 03:55pm
by Blancho
Fred Phelps, leader of the WBC, is a sick monster. There is an expose on him located
here.
A nice exerpt:
The Eastside congregation was planning to open a new church across town, and it seemed natural when their pastor, Leaford Cavin, asked Fred to fill the job. The Eastside church issued bonds to purchase the property at 3701 12th Street. To help Brother Phelps get underway, the congregation re-roofed the building, painted it, and bought the songbooks necessary. A start-up group of about 50 former members of Eastside volunteered to attend services at Westboro. The church formally opened on May 20, 1956. Fred had it all. A fine church and a congregation of his own. What went wrong?
What did provides an insight into the man who craves a greater and greater role as a moral arbiter of our times. "We gave him his church; painted; roofed it; even bought his songbooks; and after only a few weeks, he turned on us," says a long-time member of Eastside. Apparently not everyone in Leaford Cavin's church was enthusiastic about Phelps. One from that time recalls Fred, Marge, 2 year-old Fred, Jr., and 10 month-old Mark were in the pews one Sunday with the rest of the congregation, listening to Cavin preach. Mark began squirming suddenly. To the appalled amazement of his fellow worshipers nearby, the junior pastor repeatedly slapped the infant across the face with an open palm and backhand, snapping Mark's tiny head to and fro. Afterwards, several of the men in the congregation confronted Fred and told him never to do that again. Mark Phelps laughs to hear that story relayed: "My mom once told me-proudly, as if she'd effected a big change in his behavior-that my father had beaten my older brother when he was only five months old. She said she'd argued with him about it and he'd agreed to hold off beating the kids till they were a year old."
God hates everyone except child-abusers, apparently. Five months old...
Posted: 2002-10-25 05:28pm
by Dark Primus
Poor bastards. Gloating over 3,000 peoples death, they should be ashamed of themselves. I want them to suffer a horrible death.

Posted: 2002-10-25 05:39pm
by RadiO
Coast Guard??!?!?! What the fuck?
It was bad enough when they were slamming the USMC, but the Coast Guard? Why the Coast Guard? Why the FDNY? Why the NYPD? Why, for fuck's sake?