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Posted: 2002-10-25 04:49pm
by Kelly Antilles
neoolong wrote:Anakin committing mass murder, or beginning to commit mass murder.

It shows his descent into the dark side.
Been there, done that, have the gaffi stick to prove it.

Posted: 2002-10-25 05:27pm
by paladin
Vader says "NO, I am your father" not "Luke, I am your father." Watch Empire and you will hear the correct line.

Posted: 2002-10-25 05:30pm
by Kuja
Actually, IIRC, He says:

No, Luke.Iam your father.

Posted: 2002-10-25 05:41pm
by CNS Sarajevo
Thanks for the corrections on "No Luke, *I* am your father." I knew I didn't remember that one right.

The "It's a trap!" line is Ackbar's. My heart was pounding as the Rebels started heading for the DS2...a better line might've been Lando's when he said, "How can they be jamming us when they don't know...if we're coming?" I had no idea how the Rebels were going to get out of that one.

Posted: 2002-10-25 06:17pm
by paladin
IG-88E wrote:Actually, IIRC, He says:

No, Luke.Iam your father.
According to http://www.filmscape.co.uk/features/scripts/esb.html. this site has script of Empire Strikes Back,

VADER
There is no escape. Don't make
me destroy you. You do not yet
realize your importance. You
have only begun to discover your
power. Join me and I will complete
your training. With our combined
strength, we can end this destructive
conflict and bring order to the
galaxy.

LUKE
I'll never join you!

VADER
If you only knew the power of the
dark side. Obi-Wan never told
you what happened to your father.

LUKE
He told me enough! It was you
who killed him.

VADER
No. I am your father.

Posted: 2002-10-25 06:18pm
by paladin
IG-88E wrote:Actually, IIRC, He says:

No, Luke.Iam your father.
According to http://www.filmscape.co.uk/features/scripts/esb.html. this site has script of Empire Strikes Back,

VADER
There is no escape. Don't make
me destroy you. You do not yet
realize your importance. You
have only begun to discover your
power. Join me and I will complete
your training. With our combined
strength, we can end this destructive
conflict and bring order to the
galaxy.

LUKE
I'll never join you!

VADER
If you only knew the power of the
dark side. Obi-Wan never told
you what happened to your father.

LUKE
He told me enough! It was you
who killed him.

VADER
No. I am your father.

Posted: 2002-10-25 06:24pm
by Guest
What about the scene where Leia tells Han that she is Luke's sister? You can see the relief in Han's face clearly. :)

Posted: 2002-10-25 06:26pm
by D.Turtle
Slartibartfast: It is correct that it was an improvisation.
He was supposed to say "I love you too"

Posted: 2002-10-25 06:58pm
by Howedar
paladin wrote:
IG-88E wrote:Actually, IIRC, He says:

No, Luke.Iam your father.
According to http://www.filmscape.co.uk/features/scripts/esb.html. this site has script of Empire Strikes Back,

VADER
There is no escape. Don't make
me destroy you. You do not yet
realize your importance. You
have only begun to discover your
power. Join me and I will complete
your training. With our combined
strength, we can end this destructive
conflict and bring order to the
galaxy.

LUKE
I'll never join you!

VADER
If you only knew the power of the
dark side. Obi-Wan never told
you what happened to your father.

LUKE
He told me enough! It was you
who killed him.

VADER
No. I am your father.
Thats nice, but you're wrong. It is "No, Luke. I am your father."

Posted: 2002-10-25 07:08pm
by Mr Bean
I'm a Gencodial Murder... Hold me :D

I wish that had been the line in AOTC :D

Posted: 2002-10-25 07:10pm
by thecreech
Luke kissing leia ha ha ha... just kidding. Seeing yoda fight for the first time was great. People were cheering so loud in the theater i couldn't hear the dialouge

Posted: 2002-10-25 07:49pm
by paladin
Howedar wrote:
paladin wrote:
IG-88E wrote:Actually, IIRC, He says:

No, Luke.Iam your father.
According to http://www.filmscape.co.uk/features/scripts/esb.html. this site has script of Empire Strikes Back,

VADER
There is no escape. Don't make
me destroy you. You do not yet
realize your importance. You
have only begun to discover your
power. Join me and I will complete
your training. With our combined
strength, we can end this destructive
conflict and bring order to the
galaxy.

LUKE
I'll never join you!

VADER
If you only knew the power of the
dark side. Obi-Wan never told
you what happened to your father.

LUKE
He told me enough! It was you
who killed him.

VADER
No. I am your father.
Thats nice, but you're wrong. It is "No, Luke. I am your father."
YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S WRONG. I watched "Empire" and checked for the exact line. And guess what, Vader says " No. I am your father." NOWHERE DOES HE SAY LUKE'S NAME. AND IF YOU STILL THINK I'M WRONG THEN WATCH A COPY OF "EMPIRE" FOR YOURSELF AND YOU WILL HEAR THE CORRECT LINE FOR YOURSELF!!!

Posted: 2002-10-25 08:37pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
"No Luke. I am your father."

"Now you shall witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battlestation. Fire at will commander!"

"How could they be jamming us they don't know...that we're coming?"


"I love you!"
"I know.

"I have to save you!"
"You already have Luke."

Posted: 2002-10-25 10:02pm
by paladin
Both ESB original version and special edition.

No. I am your father

Posted: 2002-10-25 10:26pm
by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi
I'd probably say "Luke, I am your father." Nobody knew when it first played, there wasn't an internet to distribute spoilers. I wasn't alive when TESB came out, but I imagine the audience must have been shocked.

Posted: 2002-10-25 11:02pm
by Robert Treder
paladin wrote:Both ESB original version and special edition.

No. I am your father
Lol. I constantly get pissed when people add the "Luke." Surprising how many die-hard SW fans don't even know the damn scene they say is their favorite.

Anyways, my favorite:

"I am a Jedi, like my father before me."

It's even better now that the prequels give it perspective.

Posted: 2002-10-25 11:50pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
I guarantee we'll see a new amazingly dramatic moment in Episode Three that matches "I am your father." But for now, "I am am your father" takes it.

The moment in the swamp—

Posted: 2002-10-26 12:06am
by Patrick Degan
—when Yoda lifts Luke's X-wing out of the bog, moves it toward the shore, and gently sets it down in front of the astonished acolyte.

"I don't believe it!"

"That is why you fail."

In my view, the best demonstration of the Force in any of the movies.

Posted: 2002-10-26 12:54pm
by Guest
Carrie Fisher is supoded to have threw a a wobblem over Harrison saying "I Know". but it suited the solo cockyness better.
My favourite scene was the final lightsaber battle between Vader and Luke
"especially for your.......Sister. So you have a twin sister. Obi Wan was wise to hide her from me. Now his faulure is complete. If You won't turn to the fark side perhaps she will"
"yahhhhhhhh"
Procede to the best lightsaber dule ever accompanied by the most passionate music i have ever heard.

Posted: 2002-10-26 05:24pm
by HemlockGrey
"So be it...Jedi."

"That's not a moon. That's a space station."

"Fire at will!"
"WHAT?"
"Dantooine is far too remote for a proper demonstration. I assure you, we will deal with your Rebel friends soon enough."
*BOOOOOOOM*

That moment in TESB when the Rebels are getting into the trenches...and the music swells, then the percussion starts banging out the Imperial March, and the walkers rise on the horizon.


BTW, what's the big deal with Greedo shooting first? So Greedo fired a warning shot and Han took offense. Big deal.

Posted: 2002-10-26 06:33pm
by Patrick Degan
Cyril wrote:BTW, what's the big deal with Greedo shooting first? So Greedo fired a warning shot and Han took offense. Big deal.
You have got to be kidding!

That was no "warning shot" Greedo fired in the SE. It was just plain stupid. Lucas felt he had to go out of his way to demonstrate that Han was a thoroughgoing good guy, with no shades of grey to him —which includes never shooting first at a villain.

I give George Lucas credit for a lot of things. But he has had the very unfortunate tendency to try to make his creation more kid-accessible. The same decision process which polluted the SW universe with the Ewoks and Max Rebo in the first place.

If Greedo is an experienced bounty hunter, the last thing he's going to do is waste a blaster shot just firing a warning —especially with a killer at the other end of the table and you can't see his hands or his blaster. The second unbelieveable thing is that Greedo would miss from that range.

The whole thing was simply stupid, no matter how you look at it.

Posted: 2002-10-26 06:52pm
by HemlockGrey
Ah, ok, point taken.

Posted: 2002-10-27 01:04am
by Cal Wright
This moment is even stronger now that there are five movies, and I think will only be strengthened even more after Ep III comes out.

Luke standing before his father's funeral pyre.

Posted: 2002-10-27 02:58pm
by D.Turtle
"especially for your.......Sister. So you have a twin sister. Obi Wan was wise to hide her from me. Now his faulure is complete. If You won't turn to the fark side perhaps she will"
"yahhhhhhhh"
He doesn't say "yaaahhhhhh", he says:
"DAAAAAAAAAARTH!"

Posted: 2002-10-27 04:07pm
by Guest
no he didn't u fool, it was a roar of rage, Luke attempting to kil his own father to save his sister from her father fate.