Posted: 2002-10-27 05:30pm
When you've got mods with a backbone and an admin with a willingness to ban it'd be that simple.IG-88E wrote:Somehow, I doubt it would be that simple.
Get your fill of sci-fi, science, and mockery of stupid ideas
http://stardestroyer.dyndns-home.com/
When you've got mods with a backbone and an admin with a willingness to ban it'd be that simple.IG-88E wrote:Somehow, I doubt it would be that simple.
What about using anonymizer proxies? They're there for public use.Enlightenment wrote:***Shhhh.****
'Borrowing' an open proxy is technically a form of hacking. Talk of hacking is a bannable offense.
Happy huntingPablo Sanchez wrote:Be that as it may, Alyeska is still an opponent of the glorious dictatorship of the Warsie Proletariat. He must die.Darth Wong wrote:Relax, guys. While I disagree with their moderating policies and there's a few morons who have made it their home, there's no reason to wish harm on the whole board.
Besides, if it went down for good, there are certain morons who would simply come here instead, and none of us want that.
Hey, cmon, the ASVS vs SB war was fun... Lets have another! [/sarcasm]IG-88E wrote:No Civil Wars, please.
With the demise of Safeweb are there any of those left that will do form posts and don't require paid subscriptions?XaLEv wrote: What about using anonymizer proxies? They're there for public use.
Dunno. The one I've been using doesn't require subscription but hasn't let me sign in. That's alright, though. Haven't seen anything I've wanted to respond to.Enlightenment wrote:With the demise of Safeweb are there any of those left that will do form posts and don't require paid subscriptions?
Which moderating policies do you disagree with now? You should've brought 'em up back when you were one of the vs. forum mods.Darth Wong wrote:Relax, guys. While I disagree with their moderating policies and there's a few morons who have made it their home, there's no reason to wish harm on the whole board.
And don't you forget it!Besides, if it went down for good, there are certain morons who would simply come here instead, and none of us want that.
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1 27 ms 34 ms 40 ms gte-gw2.tbi.net [207.204.243.254]
2 32 ms 60 ms 31 ms webnet-gw.tampa.winstar.net [209.141.166.165]
3 37 ms 37 ms 39 ms miamfl2wct1-atm.wcg.net [64.200.118.77]
4 78 ms 75 ms 75 ms maimfl2wcx2-oc3.wcg.net [64.200.119.26]
5 73 ms 90 ms 89 ms dllstx1wcx3-oc48.wcg.net [64.200.210.53]
6 91 ms 80 ms 72 ms dllstx1wcx2-pos10-0.wcg.net [64.200.110.133]
7 68 ms 68 ms 68 ms dllstx9lce1-oc48.wcg.net [64.200.110.82]
8 79 ms 89 ms 141 ms eqix.dlfw.twtelecom.net [206.223.118.36]
9 70 ms 119 ms 69 ms core-02-so-2-1-0-0.dlfw.twtelecom.net [66.192.246.57]
10 90 ms 88 ms 111 ms core-01-so-2-0-0-0.dnvr.twtelecom.net [168.215.53.70]
11 88 ms 93 ms 114 ms sagg-01-rif-1.dnvr.twtelecom.net [66.192.245.90]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 89 ms 96 ms 91 ms 209.197.238.148
For you perhaps but certainly not for everyone. Read the traceroute if you don't believe me:Steve wrote:SB is still up
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Tracing route to kier.3dfrontier.com [209.197.238.148]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms celeron400 [192.168.0.1]
2 10 ms 10 ms 20 ms ---------------------sympatico.ca [64.229.---.---]
3 10 ms 10 ms 20 ms dis26-toronto63-Vlan100.in.bellnexxia.net [64.230.244.65]
4 10 ms 10 ms 20 ms core3-toronto63-Gigabite4-0.in.bellnexxia.net [206.108.107.169]
5 20 ms 30 ms 20 ms core2-chicago23-pos0-0.in.bellnexxia.net [206.108.103.114]
6 20 ms 30 ms 20 ms bx1-chicago23-pos11-0.in.bellnexxia.net [206.108.103.125]
7 20 ms 30 ms 20 ms sl-gw33-chi-4-1.sprintlink.net [144.228.58.193]
8 20 ms 30 ms 20 ms sl-bb24-chi-6-3.sprintlink.net [144.232.26.41]
9 20 ms 31 ms 20 ms sl-bb21-chi-8-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.26.78]
10 20 ms 30 ms 30 ms sl-gw32-chi-10-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.26.34]
11 21 ms 30 ms 20 ms sl-timewarner-5-0.sprintlink.net [144.223.73.202]
12 20 ms 30 ms 20 ms core-01-ge-0-3-0-0.chcg.twtelecom.net [168.215.54.29]
13 40 ms 50 ms 50 ms core-02-so-1-0-0-0.dnvr.twtelecom.net [168.215.53.14]
14 40 ms 50 ms 50 ms sagg-01-rif-2.dnvr.twtelecom.net [66.192.245.94]
15 90 ms 100 ms 100 ms 66.162.99.2
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
Damn some of you people are thick. There's a router gnome in Denver that's routing packets into a black hole known as 66.162.99.2. In my case the gnome is 12 or 13 hops away from the edge of my LAN. Someone within no more than four hops of Kier's server either isn't propagating the correct routing tables or isn't routing packets properly. The most obvious fault is within Time Warner Telecom's network. TWT appears to be the connectivity provider for whichever ISP network Kier's webserver sits on. The problem is certainly not user error and is unlikely to get fixed unless one of TWT's customers pursuades them to clean up their act.Hyperion wrote:there's nothing wrong with SB, it's been working fine, even thru the affected days you mentioned... the servers must not like you or you've got cable gnomes in the line.
Unfortunately for your argument the DDoS against the DNS root servers started on the 23rd and only lasted two hours. Furthermore, DDoS attacks against the DNS infrastructure would disrupt domain name resolution rather than IP-level routing. The partial SB outage is an IP routing error rather than a domain name resolution problem.Shinova wrote:The problem's for those people with certain ISPs that are affected by the DOS attack. Those people who have those ISPs can't get on SB or probably many other sites for that matter.
Yeah, seeing as how it wasn't for everyone.Shinova wrote:We can all still agree unanimously that the outage wasn't for everyone.
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F:\Documents and Settings\Chris Coleman>ping www.spacebattles.com
Pinging www.spacebattles.com [66.33.6.87] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 66.33.6.87: bytes=32 time=193ms TTL=247
Reply from 66.33.6.87: bytes=32 time=190ms TTL=247
Reply from 66.33.6.87: bytes=32 time=180ms TTL=247
Reply from 66.33.6.87: bytes=32 time=180ms TTL=247
Ping statistics for 66.33.6.87:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 180ms, Maximum = 193ms, Average = 185ms
F:\Documents and Settings\Chris Coleman>ping kier.3dfrontier.com
Pinging kier.3dfrontier.com [209.197.238.148] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 209.197.238.148: bytes=32 time=227ms TTL=240
Reply from 209.197.238.148: bytes=32 time=220ms TTL=240
Reply from 209.197.238.148: bytes=32 time=220ms TTL=240
Reply from 209.197.238.148: bytes=32 time=220ms TTL=240
Ping statistics for 209.197.238.148:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 220ms, Maximum = 227ms, Average = 221ms
PAY ATTENTION, FUCKWIT:Vertigo1 wrote: F:\Documents and Settings\Chris Coleman>ping kier.3dfrontier.com
Pinging kier.3dfrontier.com [209.197.238.148] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 209.197.238.148: bytes=32 time=227ms TTL=240
Reply from 209.197.238.148: bytes=32 time=220ms TTL=240
Reply from 209.197.238.148: bytes=32 time=220ms TTL=240
Reply from 209.197.238.148: bytes=32 time=220ms TTL=240
Ping statistics for 209.197.238.148:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 220ms, Maximum = 227ms, Average = 221ms
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[c:\documents\dirprofile]ping kier.3dfrontier.com
Pinging kier.3dfrontier.com [209.197.238.148] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Ping statistics for 209.197.238.148:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
I posted on there both yesterday and today...Bob McDob wrote:Well, with it being almost five days since SB went down, what are your thoughts on the matter?
Let me guess...you posted before reading the thread?jegs2 wrote:I posted on there both yesterday and today...Bob McDob wrote:Well, with it being almost five days since SB went down, what are your thoughts on the matter?