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Posted: 2002-10-30 06:31am
by Hendrake
verilon wrote:Actually, no...I personally don't like the idea of being detached from myself. In fact, that's a rather scary thought. If someone sliced your arm...you wouldn't feel it as if it were on your arm in this case. You would feel it but not on your arm. Or, someone would play with your nerves, but you could do nothing about it. IE, they could make you feel like your arm was cut without it actually bring cut.
I agree, that's scary. But only for the first couple of centuries, if that. And how can cutting an arm be felt by a supposedly incorporeal being?
PS This vision of hell is brought to you by Terry Pratchett's
Eric[/i]
Posted: 2002-10-30 06:35am
by NecronLord
It would be more fun to have the tormented souls wander the earth for all eternity unable to interact with anything, or even each other. ang give them a compulsion to want to right wrongs, but be unable to do it.
Failing which the whole refined boredom would be quite evil.
Of course, read the top one. Is that or is it not what fundies think their god will reward them with?
Posted: 2002-10-30 06:38am
by haas mark
Hendrake wrote:verilon wrote:Actually, no...I personally don't like the idea of being detached from myself. In fact, that's a rather scary thought. If someone sliced your arm...you wouldn't feel it as if it were on your arm in this case. You would feel it but not on your arm. Or, someone would play with your nerves, but you could do nothing about it. IE, they could make you feel like your arm was cut without it actually bring cut.
I agree, that's scary. But only for the first couple of centuries, if that. And how can cutting an arm be felt by a supposedly incorporeal being?
PS This vision of hell is brought to you by Terry Pratchett's
Eric[/i]
Hey...it's Hel...Anything could be possible. ANd there are always new ways to create pain. Besides...once you learn how to tolerate great pain, you will forget what little things, like papercuts put in salt water, canfeel like. ANd besides, nerves are nerves. The being could make you feel hot or cold just as easily as pain (and vice versa). It's just manipulating the nerves and how much each is used and broken, and what not.
Posted: 2002-10-30 10:36am
by aerius
Hell I believe is a place where we can all give in to our darkest desires. We woudn't have to worry about morals or laws or any of that garbage, we'd just run around doing whatever the hell we want. It would be complete anarchy put into practice, and I think I'd love every minute of it. It would be filled with the music of Ozzy and Slayer, and fundies would get beaten and killed on a regular basis. I want to go to hell, it's way more fun than being in heaven strumming a damn harp and looking at angels that I can't fuck.
Posted: 2002-10-30 11:04am
by Larz
Jean-Paul Sartre's No Exit... That was a chilling description of hell, most probably I'd end up being stuck with a fundie, bible thumping christian with Darkstar mindset and probably Darkstar himself... of course the people you end up being with would probably be circled around so just to keep the pain high
Re: What goes on in Hell?
Posted: 2002-10-30 11:17am
by jegs2
Rathark wrote:Seing that you lot love to talk about torture, and that I have revealed the depravity of my own mind, I was wondering about your visions of Hell - asuming the place exists of course. I know that most of you don't believe in it, and I don't see it as a real place at all. However, if it existed (for argument's sake, assume you are writing a novel that is partly set in Hell), what would it be like? How bad would you have to be to go there? Which names known to us would most deserve to go there? What sort of punishments would they dish out? Which punishments would match what sins? Would the punishments be more psychological that "physical"? (How could they be physical if you no longer have a body?) And - perhaps the most dreaded question of all - what sort of music would they play in the background?
According to what I've read in the Bible, Hell is a place where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. It's also described as a lake of fire where the worm does not die. So far as music, if it were heard there, it would likely be individually tailored to be as irritating as possible to each individual.
Posted: 2002-10-30 06:31pm
by Antediluvian
Darth Wong wrote:How bad can it be? All of those goddamned fundie assholes, murderous medieval Catholics, crusaders, etc. won't be there. I say it's party 24x7 and massive sex orgies.
If you want a fucked-up place to go after death, go to the place God runs (we all know what a nice guy he is from reading the Old Testament, after all).
Damn! Who told you!?
(Antediluvian sprouts bat wings and flies away, sulking).
Seriously, though, I always found Clive Barker's vision the most disturbing.
Especially since you don't even have to die to go there.
By the way, Mike, here's a puzzle box. Have fun.
Posted: 2002-10-30 06:32pm
by haas mark
Antediluvian wrote:Darth Wong wrote:How bad can it be? All of those goddamned fundie assholes, murderous medieval Catholics, crusaders, etc. won't be there. I say it's party 24x7 and massive sex orgies.
If you want a fucked-up place to go after death, go to the place God runs (we all know what a nice guy he is from reading the Old Testament, after all).
Damn! Who told you!?
(Antediluvian sprouts bat wings and flies away, sulking).
Seriously, though, I always found Clive Barker's vision the most disturbing.
Especially since you don't even have to die to go there.
By the way, Mike, here's a puzzle box. Have fun.
I think of Hercules and/or Persephone in Hades...
Re: What goes on in Hell?
Posted: 2002-10-31 01:07am
by The Duchess of Zeon
jegs2 wrote:Rathark wrote:Seing that you lot love to talk about torture, and that I have revealed the depravity of my own mind, I was wondering about your visions of Hell - asuming the place exists of course. I know that most of you don't believe in it, and I don't see it as a real place at all. However, if it existed (for argument's sake, assume you are writing a novel that is partly set in Hell), what would it be like? How bad would you have to be to go there? Which names known to us would most deserve to go there? What sort of punishments would they dish out? Which punishments would match what sins? Would the punishments be more psychological that "physical"? (How could they be physical if you no longer have a body?) And - perhaps the most dreaded question of all - what sort of music would they play in the background?
According to what I've read in the Bible, Hell is a place where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. It's also described as a lake of fire where the worm does not die. So far as music, if it were heard there, it would likely be individually tailored to be as irritating as possible to each individual.
Well, if you want to see what a serious but lay Christian thinker thought Hell would be like, read Dante's
Inferno.
Re: What goes on in Hell?
Posted: 2002-10-31 01:11am
by Darth Wong
jegs2 wrote:According to what I've read in the Bible, Hell is a place where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Like the opera-house?
It's also described as a lake of fire where the worm does not die.
Are they talking about the worm in the tequila bottle? PARTY!!!!!
So far as music, if it were heard there, it would likely be individually tailored to be as irritating as possible to each individual.
So they have atmosphere and wave acoustics in Hell? You still have eardrums? Sounds like a rather mundane, physical place. Shouldn't we have run into it by now?
Wait a minute ... weeping, gnashing of teeth, worms, irritating music ... of course! It's the SHOPPING MALL!!!! There is much weeping and gnashing of teeth from husbands while the women shop, there is usually a pet store with an endless supply of worms, the lake of fire is going to be ignited as soon as someone throws a match onto the dark puddle beneath where that ancient Chevy Blazer was just parked, and they keep playing Britney Spears!
Posted: 2002-10-31 01:31am
by Zaia
yanni, kenny g, and continuous reruns of 'charles in charge' keep running through my head......
Re: What goes on in Hell?
Posted: 2002-10-31 04:54am
by NecronLord
How about. The warp form 40K
Place where the laws of physics and reality are totally differnt, and a thousand versions of you cn be tormented at once, and you exprience all of this pain.
The C'tan are going to rid you of this place, Rejoice!