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Posted: 2004-07-06 06:54pm
by 2000AD
And another plus: Firefox blocks spyware! Normally after my general browsing i have aroung 8-10 spyware when using IE, but when using Firefox - NONE !

Posted: 2004-07-06 06:57pm
by Lt. Dan
2000AD wrote:EDIT: also, since it appears to block pop-ups, how dop i view the pop-ups i want to see, such as PM notices.
I use Mozilla and the PM pop up works fine.

Posted: 2004-07-06 06:59pm
by Pu-239
Another article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... Jun25.html

As for mozilla security, see bugzilla.mozilla.org

Posted: 2004-07-06 07:00pm
by Pu-239
2000AD wrote:And another plus: Firefox blocks spyware! Normally after my general browsing i have aroung 8-10 spyware when using IE, but when using Firefox - NONE !
It doesn't block spyware, it just doesn't support them (Lacks ActiveX support- though you can add it :lol: ).

Posted: 2004-07-06 07:19pm
by Vendetta
Pu-239 wrote: That's what extensions are for. One useful one is the one that lets you edit CSS on the fly and see results immediately. Rather amusing to edit the CSS for microsoft.com :twisted: (I didn't do that but someone else did for kicks).
As noted, Opera can do this 'out of the box'. You might not be able to edit CSS's dynamically, but you can switch them dynamicaflly without having to piss about installing anything but the program itself.

I have to work eight hours a day fucking about making other people's PC's work, I want mine to do it's shit straight away without me having to press anything more than the 'on' button. Ever. I don't want to piss my life away installing features that should be there anyway.

That's also why I have a Mac.

Posted: 2004-07-06 07:23pm
by sketerpot
2000AD wrote:SO is Mozilla more secure because it doesn't have any of IE's securioty problems? Does it have any problems of it's own?
I don't know. I do know that it doesn't have IE's nasty ActiveX problems, which is a big step forward. It may have security problems, but I sure haven't seen any exploited. I definitely can't say that for IE, which seems to pick up some nasty bit of malware every other day.
EDIT: also, since it appears to block pop-ups, how do i view the pop-ups i want to see, such as PM notices.
You can un-popupblock certain sites. It also allows popups that directly result from clicking on a link, which solves almost all of the cases where you want popups.

Posted: 2004-07-06 07:32pm
by Vendetta
The only thing that works in Mozilla is URL spoofing, and even that's not as transparent as it is in IE.

Opera is similarly immune.

Posted: 2004-07-06 07:40pm
by Defiant
I'm using Firefox right now, and I have to say the following statement:

FIREFOX IS THE SHIT!!! I will never use Netscape or IE again!!

Posted: 2004-07-06 07:45pm
by Pu-239
Vendetta wrote:The only thing that works in Mozilla is URL spoofing, and even that's not as transparent as it is in IE.

Opera is similarly immune.
It's been fixed.

Posted: 2004-07-06 07:50pm
by darthdavid
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I love themes. Infact, themes are the best way to get the computer inept to switch. They may not appreciate all the tech advantages but they can appreciate being able to make their browser look like they want it to.

Posted: 2004-07-06 08:06pm
by Plekhanov
Thanks for all the recommendations I’ll give firefox a try and see how I like it.

Also I forgot to say before but a few of the PCs I look after are pretty low end (400mhz 128mb that kind of thing) is firefox a good browser for hand me down systems?

Posted: 2004-07-06 08:11pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Yeah it should work pretty well. It's pretty small and doesn't need a lot of proccessing power or memory.

Posted: 2004-07-06 08:15pm
by Vendetta
My old Pentium 166 is happy with Firefox. It's still faster than IE.

Posted: 2004-07-06 08:26pm
by phongn
Plekhanov wrote:Thanks for all the recommendations I’ll give firefox a try and see how I like it.

Also I forgot to say before but a few of the PCs I look after are pretty low end (400mhz 128mb that kind of thing) is firefox a good browser for hand me down systems?
It'll work, though Firefox can use up gobs of RAM when you have multiple windows and tabs open.

Posted: 2004-07-06 09:00pm
by Pu-239
Vendetta wrote:My old Pentium 166 is happy with Firefox. It's still faster than IE.
That's amazing. I cannot tolerate Phoenix (old Firefox) on a Pentium 120 (Linux). Heck, it annoys me on my Pentium-II 450 with 512 MB of RAM- that and the profile locking and multiple monitors (seperate desktops) have convinced me to switch to Galeon (yet another mozilla based browser). I still miss the features though.

Posted: 2004-07-06 10:00pm
by Plekhanov
Well I’ve downloaded (a mere 4.5mb) and installed Firefox and have been using it for a while now and quite like it. It’s too early to say I really like it, nothing about it has pissed me off yet anyway which is unusual as I’m very easily annoyed.

I must say that the whole process of changing browsers was incredibly quick and ridiculously easy. If any others out there are still using IE because they a scared that changing will be too much trouble quit worrying and make the move, the whole process took under 10 minutes (including downloading) and firefox seems so straightforward that you’ll hardly notice the difference.

I really was astonished at just how ridiculously easy the changeover was, I can’t believe I waited for so long before making the change. I’ll install firefox on my friends and families machines over the next week or so, it wouldn’t surprise me if they don’t even realise I’ve changed anything, assuming they have the intelligence to translate “favourites” to “bookmarks” that is which come to think of it I doubt.

Thanks again you guys for all the advice has been much appreciated and will hopefully stop all those scumbags who I feel sure have it in for me from nicking my credit card details.

Posted: 2004-07-06 10:36pm
by Soontir C'boath
phongn wrote:
Plekhanov wrote:Thanks for all the recommendations I’ll give firefox a try and see how I like it.

Also I forgot to say before but a few of the PCs I look after are pretty low end (400mhz 128mb that kind of thing) is firefox a good browser for hand me down systems?
It'll work, though Firefox can use up gobs of RAM when you have multiple windows and tabs open.
It would be practically be the same if several IE browsers were on. Might as well keep it in one.

Posted: 2004-07-06 11:13pm
by Pu-239
Yeah, I usually browse with 10-20 tabs open at a time.

Posted: 2004-07-07 02:37am
by KhyronTheBackstabber
I just went and downloaded Firefox a little while ago, and I'm liking it so far. Now it's time to put it though the ultimate test, porn. :wink:

Posted: 2004-07-07 03:46am
by Damaramu
I absolutely adore Firefox. I've been using it for about 4 months now and I can say that I will never, EVER use IE again. :twisted:

Posted: 2004-07-07 03:49am
by haas mark
By the way, is there a way to allow pop-ups from specific sites with Opera? I've not figured that out yet...

Posted: 2004-07-07 04:16am
by Spyder
Firefox and thunderbird. The way a system should be. Opera is also an acceptable browser.

Posted: 2004-07-07 02:43pm
by Clone Sergeant
verilon wrote:By the way, is there a way to allow pop-ups from specific sites with Opera? I've not figured that out yet...
The only way I know of is that Opera 7 allows you to set the browser to block only unwanted pop-ups, so you only get pop-ups for links you click on.

Posted: 2004-07-07 07:09pm
by 2000AD
Flash stuff don't seem to work on Firefox. Do i need to download Flash again?

Posted: 2004-07-07 07:12pm
by Soontir C'boath
2000AD wrote:Flash stuff don't seem to work on Firefox. Do i need to download Flash again?
Yes.