"Victory in Federal Marriage Amendment in Senate"

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2004-07-14 07:21pm

Hmmm. Reason why the pilgrims got the hell out of Britain was to escape theocracy-like pressure. Now people here are trying to recreate a theocracy.

History repeats, truly.

sketerpot · Post by **sketerpot** » 2004-07-14 07:22pm

Guardsman Bass wrote:I already know how my senators voted but anyway, this is good news, I guess, although I don't think it was expected to pass anyway. Still, that was too damn close!

My guess, it will probably re-emerge if Bush is re-elected.

Too close? Sure, it was close in the senate, but an amendment also has to pass the house of representatives and 2/3 of the states, so I'm not worried about it.

If it resurfaces, hopefully more gay people will have married in Massechusetts, and the "Family Values Meddlesome Assholes Brigade" will have to chose between minding their own fucking business or forcefully divorcing all those people. It's nice to see progress being made, however galling some may find it.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-07-14 07:28pm

Shinova wrote:Hmmm. Reason why the pilgrims got the hell out of Britain was to escape theocracy-like pressure.

No, they wanted to escape the wrong theorcracy. Once they came here, they immediately tried to set up their own.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-07-14 07:31pm

Huh, I didn't expect Specter to vote Yea, though I knew from the get-go that Santorum would.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-07-14 08:07pm

I was in my local comic shop, making my weekly rounds when I heard the news. Yea to Boxer; Ca.'s still a good place to live! And I agree with the four words of:

IN YOUR FACE BUSH!

This continues to give me hope that that man, his policies and machinations, his cronies and hypocrisy, all of it will go bye-bye come November 11.

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-07-14 08:41pm

Domenici (R-NM) - Yea
Bingaman (D-NM) - Nay

Not surprised. Domenici, while a good senator, needs some common sense. That's always been his problem.

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2004-07-14 09:21pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:The thread title was misleading; I thought the admendment had passed.

I just quoted what my email subject read. *shrugs* Moveon.org's title, not mine.

Metrion Cascade · Post by **Metrion Cascade** » 2004-07-14 09:23pm

Eat it, motherfuckers.

BTW - I think McCain's one of maybe two Republicans (the other being Powell) that I could see myself voting for. Maybe. Unless they were up against Clinton. Clinton's the man.

And a question...where did you guys find the votes for your senators? Senate.gov?

Vohu Manah · Post by **Vohu Manah** » 2004-07-14 09:32pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dy ... Found=true

© 2004 The Washington Post Company wrote:Republicans who voted to block the amendment were Susan M. Collins (Maine), Olympia J. Snowe (Maine), John E. Sununu (N.H.), Lincoln D. Chafee (R-I.), Ben Nighthorse Campbell (Colo.) and John McCain (Ariz.). Democrats who voted to bring up the amendment were Zell Miller (Ga.), Ben Nelson (Neb.) and Robert C. Byrd (W.Va.).

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2004-07-14 09:32pm

Wyden voted Nay and Smith voted Yea, exactly as I predicted.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-07-14 09:35pm

Frank Hipper wrote:You know, even though this had a snowball's chance in hell of passing, when you see a fucking ammendment to the fucking Constitution proposed that effectively would deny YOU the same rights and privileges that everyone else enjoys without giving a second thought, you get nervous.

Good deal.

Agreed.

BTW, John McCain did not betray us, may he forever be reelected.

Kyl on the other hand is an asshat, and I will personally campaign for his opponent when he runs for reelection.

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-07-14 09:37pm

Metrion Cascade wrote:Eat it, motherfuckers.

BTW - I think McCain's one of maybe two Republicans (the other being Powell) that I could see myself voting for. Maybe. Unless they were up against Clinton. Clinton's the man.

And a question...where did you guys find the votes for your senators? Senate.gov?

They're all here.

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-07-14 09:37pm

Scratch that.. here.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2004-07-14 10:26pm

Notice that its almost a perfectly even split, with very few people voting againt their party. Yay for the bipartisan system, supporting groupthink in the 21st century!

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-07-14 11:48pm

Mitth`raw`nuruodo wrote:
DPDarkPrimus wrote:The thread title was misleading; I thought the admendment had passed.
I just quoted what my email subject read. *shrugs* Moveon.org's title, not mine.

Yeah, but when I don't see that it's from the Human Rights Campaign in my Inbox...

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2004-07-15 12:30am

Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Nay Burns (R-MT), Yea

Good on Baucus. He is up for relection and I will vote for him. Burns is already on my shit list (he promised to be a two term senator when he was first elected, he is currently serving his 3rd term).

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-07-15 01:30am

In his weekly radio address at the weekend, he [Bush] called marriage between a man and a woman "the most fundamental institution of civilisation".

From the Beeb's article.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2004-07-15 01:32am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
In his weekly radio address at the weekend, he [Bush] called marriage between a man and a woman "the most fundamental institution of civilisation".
From the Beeb's article.

I believe the most fundamental insitution of civilization is the city, no? Where does he think the word Civilization came from?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-07-15 01:40am

Nono, you're wrong! If it weren't for marriage between a man and a woman, cities would never have existed!

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-07-15 01:43am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
In his weekly radio address at the weekend, he [Bush] called marriage between a man and a woman "the most fundamental institution of civilisation".
From the Beeb's article.

Well, one guy linked it to the future of the country, and somehow to homeland security.

"I would argue that the future of our country hangs in the balance because the future of marriage hangs in the balance. Isn't that the ultimate homeland security, standing up and defending marriage?" -Sen. Rick Santorum

From here.

Boyish-Tigerlilly · Post by **Boyish-Tigerlilly** » 2004-07-15 02:01am

[Sarcastic] I was very impressed when Santorum and his associates assumed they were right to defend marriage because it existed for over 5,000 years in the same form [/Sarcastic]

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2004-07-15 09:47am

Non-surprise:

Norm Coleman (R-MN): Yea
Mark Dayton (D-MN): Nay

Yay for Senator Dayton and a giant fuck you to Senator Coleman. Normy boy, you aren't a tenth the man Paul was. Fuck you up the ass with a tent pole.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-07-15 09:51am

Vohu Manah wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dy ... Found=true

© 2004 The Washington Post Company wrote:Republicans who voted to block the amendment were Susan M. Collins (Maine), Olympia J. Snowe (Maine), John E. Sununu (N.H.), Lincoln D. Chafee (R-I.), Ben Nighthorse Campbell (Colo.) and John McCain (Ariz.). Democrats who voted to bring up the amendment were Zell Miller (Ga.), Ben Nelson (Neb.) and Robert C. Byrd (W.Va.).

Good ol' Robert Byrd! Clansman, Spendthrift and now he can add Fag-Hater to his resume.

Maybe Tevar could do us a favor and 'accidently' issue his death certificate at the clerk's office. That should keep him from voting for a while.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2004-07-15 09:53am

Norm Coleman shouldn't have voted for this amendment. I mean, look how frequently he's got Bush's dick up his ass.

Post by **Cairber** » 2004-07-15 09:59am

Um yeah..this was the vote to overcome the filibuster, which didnt pass. We still dont know where everyone would have stood on the amendment itself. This was just a fancy dance way of not having to be forced to vote yes/no on the actual amendment during an election year...hard to convince conservative america that you are pro family while also voting yes to gay marriage...

a nice dance indeed