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MKSheppard wrote:http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=32749

Chechen Terrorists to be Buried in Pigskin

According to the Moskovski Komsomol newspaper, Russian security
forces have decided to bury the terrorists from last's week's hostage
siege wrapped in pig's skin. The aim is to deter potential Islamic
terrorists from future attacks.

Shahidi (Jihad martyrs) believe by their nefarious acts that they
ascend immediately to heaven. Using their beliefs against them,
wrapping their corpses in 'unclean' pigskin prevents them from
entering heaven for eternity.

I was wondering when someone would adopt that tactic, and it could just work... Why die in a suicide attack if no Paradise awaits?

And besides, Verilon, these people are terrorists. They were there in the hostage situation, ready to kill innocent people if necessary. They deserve this.

Shinova wrote:And besides, Verilon, these people are terrorists. They were there in the hostage situation, ready to kill innocent people if necessary. They deserve this.

Well, I personally don't think so. Leave my mode of thought alone. I don't particularly find it for the greater good to attack a religion as a whole. Which is what they are doing, IMO. Non-radicals may even be upsetted by this, you must realize.

This kind of tactic is long overdue. If terrorists want to use their religion as an excuse to commit atrocities, blaspheming that religion is a valid weapon in fighting them. Landover Baptist mentions in a "sermon" that we should be dipping our bullets in bacon grease. I say HELL YEAH!!!! Feed their corpses to pigs and broadcast THAT on Al Jazeera! Now that`s counter terrorism.

verilon wrote:

Shinova wrote:And besides, Verilon, these people are terrorists. They were there in the hostage situation, ready to kill innocent people if necessary. They deserve this.

Well, I personally don't think so. Leave my mode of thought alone. I don't particularly find it for the greater good to attack a religion as a whole. Which is what they are doing, IMO. Non-radicals may even be upsetted by this, you must realize.

It's not attacking the religion as a whole. It's using their own religious beliefs in order to deter them.

jegs2 wrote:

verilon wrote:

Shinova wrote:And besides, Verilon, these people are terrorists. They were there in the hostage situation, ready to kill innocent people if necessary. They deserve this.

Well, I personally don't think so. Leave my mode of thought alone. I don't particularly find it for the greater good to attack a religion as a whole. Which is what they are doing, IMO. Non-radicals may even be upsetted by this, you must realize.

It's not attacking the religion as a whole. It's using their own religious beliefs in order to deter them.

Which is, IMO, attacking the religion. Now excuse me while I cintinue killing fundies over at creationweb.

verilon wrote:

Shinova wrote:And besides, Verilon, these people are terrorists. They were there in the hostage situation, ready to kill innocent people if necessary. They deserve this.

Well, I personally don't think so. Leave my mode of thought alone. I don't particularly find it for the greater good to attack a religion as a whole. Which is what they are doing, IMO. Non-radicals may even be upsetted by this, you must realize.

Like I said before, lets see if it has any effect (perhaps a few repeats). If it works, great. If it doesn't then try somethign else. Its more important to stop terrorism than worry about offending beliefs.

Darth Servo wrote:

verilon wrote:

Shinova wrote:And besides, Verilon, these people are terrorists. They were there in the hostage situation, ready to kill innocent people if necessary. They deserve this.

Well, I personally don't think so. Leave my mode of thought alone. I don't particularly find it for the greater good to attack a religion as a whole. Which is what they are doing, IMO. Non-radicals may even be upsetted by this, you must realize.

Like I said before, lets see if it has any effect (perhaps a few repeats). If it works, great. If it doesn't then try somethign else. Its more important to stop terrorism than worry about offending beliefs.

I think that offending beliefs is top priority...it will lead to more terrorism, dont you see?

verilon wrote:I think that offending beliefs is top priority...it will lead to more terrorism, dont you see?

The mere existance of non-muslims offends their beliefs.

Darth Servo wrote:

verilon wrote:I think that offending beliefs is top priority...it will lead to more terrorism, dont you see?

The mere existance of non-muslims offends their beliefs.

The mere existence of non-Christian offends fundies. What's your point? I mean that we are going to offend the tolerable ones.

verilon wrote:

I think that offending beliefs is top priority...

No it's not. Saying that the Russians doing this to terrorists who use Islam are against all Muslims is like saying Mike is against all christians because he hates the hell out of a few.

It's a hasty generalization.

Because the russians are taking actions against some muslims, they're taking action against ALL muslims

verilon wrote: it will lead to more terrorism, dont you see?

No it won't. If you were an fundamentalist islamic fuck head, would YOU want to go up against the russians with the full knowledge that you're bullet ridden corpse would be doomed to hell for eternity?

Shadow WarChief wrote:

verilon wrote:

I think that offending beliefs is top priority...

No it's not. Saying that the Russians doing this to terrorists who use Islam are against all Muslims is like saying Mike is against all christians because he hates the hell out of a few.

It's a hasty generalization.

Because the russians are taking actions against some muslims, they're taking action against ALL muslims

verilon wrote: it will lead to more terrorism, dont you see?

No it won't. If you were an fundamentalist islamic fuck head, would YOU want to go up against the russians with the full knowledge that you're bullet ridden corpse would be doomed to hell for eternity?

*Bashes--yourhead--intowall*

I SAID BEFORE AND WILL SAY AGAIN--THIS IS MY OPINION ONLY!!! If you don't think its right and it has been responmded to THRE TIMES BEFORE, then don't respond to it!!!

verilon wrote:

Darth Servo wrote:

verilon wrote: Well, I personally don't think so. Leave my mode of thought alone. I don't particularly find it for the greater good to attack a religion as a whole. Which is what they are doing, IMO. Non-radicals may even be upsetted by this, you must realize.

Like I said before, lets see if it has any effect (perhaps a few repeats). If it works, great. If it doesn't then try somethign else. Its more important to stop terrorism than worry about offending beliefs.

I think that offending beliefs is top priority...it will lead to more terrorism, dont you see?

No they do these thing because they believe their god will reward them for fighting his causes. If they fail and the Russians prevent them from going to heaven it is a reason to take a second look at things and see if you really want to go through with a terrorist act.

Using ones beliefs against him is an acceptable tatic, and has been used all the way down through history. If the Russians keep doing it, I think it would prove to be a sucessful pysop.

*bangs head into wall*

I just happen to find it unacceptable..and will always. Just leave me and my opinions alone!!!

Really. WTG russia. Might aswell forcefeed the living ones bacon unless they talk DOWN WITH THOSE FUCKIN TERRORISTS

verilon wrote:*bangs head into wall*

I just happen to find it unacceptable..and will always. Just leave me and my opinions alone!!!

Verilon all things aside you have expressed your opinion in a public forum where it is subject to criticism. The essence of debate is to change people's opinions and this case is no different, they are arguing against your opinions because they see logical faults in them. Now whether they are right or not becomes a mroal question which makes a nice big debate out of such a small difference in opinion. Basically what I'm trying to say is that expressing your opinions here leaves them open to coutner opinions, dont be mad thoguh some of your attackers could be a hell of a lot more considerate of the right to an opinion.

Putting the ists in pigskin is a blatant violation of human rights! ists should have respectful, expensive funerals in mosques! They should be allowed to be rewarded for teir actions!

CmdrWilkens wrote:

verilon wrote:*bangs head into wall*

I just happen to find it unacceptable..and will always. Just leave me and my opinions alone!!!

Verilon all things aside you have expressed your opinion in a public forum where it is subject to criticism. The essence of debate is to change people's opinions and this case is no different, they are arguing against your opinions because they see logical faults in them. Now whether they are right or not becomes a mroal question which makes a nice big debate out of such a small difference in opinion. Basically what I'm trying to say is that expressing your opinions here leaves them open to coutner opinions, dont be mad thoguh some of your attackers could be a hell of a lot more considerate of the right to an opinion.

My point is that I do not wish to debate, as well as the fact that the same thing has been pointed out to me in excess of three people. Why, I don't know. Like I said before, I just happen to have a different moral standard. Is it so much to ask that I don't get bombarded by EVERY SINGLE PERSON that has the opposite opinion of myself?

verilon wrote:

CmdrWilkens wrote: Verilon all things aside you have expressed your opinion in a public forum where it is subject to criticism. The essence of debate is to change people's opinions and this case is no different, they are arguing against your opinions because they see logical faults in them. Now whether they are right or not becomes a mroal question which makes a nice big debate out of such a small difference in opinion. Basically what I'm trying to say is that expressing your opinions here leaves them open to coutner opinions, dont be mad thoguh some of your attackers could be a hell of a lot more considerate of the right to an opinion.

My point is that I do not wish to debate, as well as the fact that the same thing has been pointed out to me in excess of three people. Why, I don't know. Like I said before, I just happen to have a different moral standard. Is it so much to ask that I don't get bombarded by EVERY SINGLE PERSON that has the opposite opinion of myself?

You know you didn't actually have to respond to them right? Also they are entitled to be repetitive assholes in this forum. They are entitled to pick apart your opinion just as you are entitled to pick apart theirs. If you are annoyed by it then ignore the thread, if you don't want to defend your opinnion then just leave it be...its not like you'll be called a coward or something (and if you are then those folk are just asses).

I'm surprised the Russian's haven't just burned them in hog fat and then fired the remains at Mecca with a cruise missile.

Sea Skimmer wrote:I'm surprised the Russian's haven't just burned them in hog fat and then fired the remains at Mecca with a cruise missile.

I think the idea is to punish the terrorists not every Muslim in the world.

Not to mention taking out Jerusalem and Bethlehem while they're at it... They are in a close enough prximity, it's possible.

Stormbringer wrote:

Sea Skimmer wrote:I'm surprised the Russian's haven't just burned them in hog fat and then fired the remains at Mecca with a cruise missile.

I think the idea is to punish the terrorists not every Muslim in the world.

It's only a matter of time before someone launches a missile at that holy black pillar in Mecca or plants a large bomb on the Dome of the Rock, sparking an all new "holy war".

Aren't there any laws or treaties against desecrating the dead? Or does that only apply to legal combatants?

Raxmei wrote:Aren't there any laws or treaties against desecrating the dead? Or does that only apply to legal combatants?

There is the Geneva convention but that applies only to POWs and civilians. A terrorist is actually considered a criminal in most cases and thus Russian law is allowed to works its magic. certianly the Russians could be put under some sort of inter national censure but that won't change their legal right to do what they did.