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Can someone list every single ship clasified as a 'Star Destroyer' we know of in the EU? Anywhere I can find good pictures? Ones I know of:

Imperator-class Star Destroyer

Imperator II-class Star Destroyer

Victory-class Star Destroyer (although Rebellion calls it a Victory-class Destroyer, is there precedent for this in the EU?)

Victory II-class Star Destroyer (I've only seen it in Rebellion- does it exist in the EU?)

Executor-class Star Destroyer

Eclipse-class Star Destroyer

Allegiance-class Star Destroyer (what is this? Where is this? What does it look like? Better than an Imperator II? Specs?)

Sovereign-class Star Destroyer (what is this? Where is this? What does it look like? Its in the 'super' category yeah?)

Thanks in advance guys

Allegiance class I'm not familiar you, Another thing, its not Imperator its IMPERAL
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Imperal class people not Imperator, Where are you getting this name?

Vympel wrote:Allegiance-class Star Destroyer (what is this? Where is this? What does it look like? Better than an Imperator II? Specs?)

It's an Imperator lookalike, but about half way between the size of the ISD and the Executor. I'd characterize it as more of a heavy cruiser or light battlecruiser than a destroyer.

Sovereign-class Star Destroyer (what is this? Where is this? What does it look like? Its in the 'super' category yeah?)

It's a big SD-style ship, with mounting for an axial superlaser, a la the Eclipse. If you want to know almost all there is about Imperial warships, go to Saxton's website. He has a good page devoted to it.

An Allegiance class SD can briefly be seen in RotJ (the one with its hangar closed/non-existent). I have always assumed that it was a SD designed for heavy fighting against capital ships, and so it had its TIE launching platform ability removed. Incidentally, I think that it IS Imperator, despite the Bacta War reference.

Pablo Sanchez wrote:

Vympel wrote:Allegiance-class Star Destroyer (what is this? Where is this? What does it look like? Better than an Imperator II? Specs?)

It's an Imperator lookalike, but about half way between the size of the ISD and the Executor. I'd characterize it as more of a heavy cruiser or light battlecruiser than a destroyer.

Saxton estimates it to be 2.2km long. I classify it as either a Destroyer Leader or Light Cruiser.

Master of Ossus wrote:An Allegiance class SD can briefly be seen in RotJ (the one with its hangar closed/non-existent). I have always assumed that it was a SD designed for heavy fighting against capital ships, and so it had its TIE launching platform ability removed. Incidentally, I think that it IS Imperator, despite the Bacta War reference.

IIRC, that is a subclass of the Imperator, not the Allegiance type.

Mr Bean wrote: Imperal class people not Imperator, Where are you getting this name?

The lead ship of the class was the Imperator (IIRC), from the original design blueprints (which was also quite a bit smaller than the final design).

Many prefer Imperator over Imperial.

Vympel wrote: Thanks in advance guys

There's the Republic-class, which is half the cost of an ISD2 yet has performance between the ISD1 and ISD2. There's also the Defender-class, IIRC.

phongn wrote:There's the Republic-class, which is half the cost of an ISD2 yet has performance between the ISD1 and ISD2. There's also the Defender-class, IIRC.

That's the one they used in the Black Fleet Crisis to soak up the damage from the Particle cannon, right?

David wrote: It also states that the standard Imperial sector fleet has 24 SDs and thats where people get the idea that the Empire control a little more than 1000 sectors.

Actualy, that has some canon backing as well.

The radio drama of ROTJ states that the imperial fleet at endor is the sector fleet.

Remember, those 25,000 star destroyers are ONLY destroyers. As far as a WWI or WWII fleet would be concerned, they wouldn't even count toward total fleet strength. At Wake Island in 1941, shore batteries easily disposed of Japanese destroyers. In the Battle of Jutland, destroyers sank after one or two hits from cap ship weapons. When Han said 'the whole star fleet couldn't destroy the entire planet' you can be sure he wasn't talking about ships as trivial as Destroyers.

Where the hell have you been???



Star Destroyers, not destroyers, are the largest and most powerful mass produced capital warships of the Star Wars galaxy.

Remember, there are "a lot of Command Ships!"

We argue and argue with Trekkies about Han's claims to the size of the Imperial fleet. Then in RotJ he says there are lots of command ships. Here's my question. Is he just saying that to calm Luke? Or is there really a number of command ships in the Super-Class?

John wrote:Remember, there are "a lot of Command Ships!"

He was refering to the Executor, where Luke said he felt Darth Vader.

Han could have been using the US Navy term, which would have meant a large, un-armored, slow target for any enemy, that served as a local HQ. Or he might have meant a Fleet Flagship, the largest, most powerful ships around. In any case, a Command Ship would still not be any kind of Destroyer, except in an emergency.

Star Destroyer and Super Star Destroyer ( like the Executor) are just names, they are not refering to the actual ship class.

Since Han was referring to Executor class cruisers, I have always assumed that the Empire has many Executor class ships, and that Han was reminding Luke that the presence of an Executor class ship did not necessarily mean that Vader was also present. He was telling Luke that it could have merely been another ship (not the Executor). It had nothing to do with the fleet that was actually at Endor, it was a statement about the entire Imperial fleet.

Remember, those 25,000 star destroyers are ONLY destroyers. As far as a WWI or WWII fleet would be concerned, they wouldn't even count toward total fleet strength. At Wake Island in 1941, shore batteries easily disposed of Japanese destroyers.

There seems to be only the barest form of analogy between SW ship nomenclature and modern, real-life naming schemes. A destroyer was, technically, a ship dedicated towards taking out submarines. And there're no submarines in space...

I wonder if we can come up with a nice standard of ranking the ship classes in SW. SD's and SSD's would definitely be at the top (I'm ignoring ESSD, as it's a specialized ship), and Cruisers would probably be close to them in terms of size. What about Fleet Carriers? Dreadnaughts? Frigates? Corvettes? Gunboats? Picket Ships?

I'm noticing a little confusion over the terms "Star Destroyer" and "destroyer". I don't think there's a need to correct anyone that uses either because in my view they are both correct. I think of both as accurate labels from a naval perspective. The only reason I can see the word "Star" being used to describe Star Destroyers is because it's distinguishing the starship from an oceanic vessel. There are no oceanic vessels in the film, but in the EU there is at least one example of said ocean going ships, though not a destroyer. If there's any evidence this interpretation is wrong, I'd appreciate the info.

Now I have that contrary info. I take back my statements.

Unless you want to count the Chimaera attacking the Coral Vanda.

John wrote: Remember, those 25,000 star destroyers are ONLY destroyers. As far as a WWI or WWII fleet would be concerned, they wouldn't even count toward total fleet strength. At Wake Island in 1941, shore batteries easily disposed of Japanese destroyers. In the Battle of Jutland, destroyers sank after one or two hits from cap ship weapons. When Han said 'the whole star fleet couldn't destroy the entire planet' you can be sure he wasn't talking about ships as trivial as Destroyers.

Notice the word STAR in front of it. It isn't a small vessel. it would compare to a heavy crusier in the US navy. The name of Star Destroyer is used as an intimidator.

So if I call it a StarTank, it's a lot more powerful than a regular tank? Don't go trekkie on us.

John wrote:So if I call it a StarTank, it's a lot more powerful than a regular tank? Don't go trekkie on us.

No, because it has the word "star" in front of it, it is obviously not the same as a normal tank. You then have to study it IN RELATION TO other existing vessles of simelar type to assertain its capabilities and size. Assuming a Star destroyer fills a simelar role as modern day destroyers because of one word is foolish.

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the imperial star destroyer was among the most fearsome weapons of the imperial war machine. with over 25,000 of these awesome ships at his disposal, it is no wonder that emperor palpatine could instill fear into the hearts of the galaxy's citizens.
in addition to it's weaponry, an imperial star destroyer carries one wing of 72 tie fighters, a full storm trooper division, 20 at-ats, and and 30 at-st walkers.

a division, btw, is 9700. . . I dunno about you, but if I was one civilized world, I'd be scared spitless of this thing.