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Posted: 2002-11-09 02:03pm
by Darth Yoshi
Sure, immortality sounds good now, but eventually I will get bored out of my mind. Never mind the heartache of falling in love again and again to only watch them die. It's like Flint in Star Trek. I prefer conditional immortality, where I can die whenever I choose to, but until then I won't die. Another thing. Does the immortality include regeneration? Because it would really suck if some guy lopped your head off, and you have to stay that way for the rest of eternity.

Posted: 2002-11-09 02:07pm
by Pu-239
Life sucks. No.

Posted: 2002-11-09 02:10pm
by Sparkticus
Well, I'd want some funky powers too. Like teleportation, the ability to survive in a vacuum and to be able to create what I want at will. Time-Travel is for people that enjoy fucking things up on a titanic scale.

Posted: 2002-11-09 02:13pm
by salm
Pu-239 wrote:Life sucks. No.
that´s idiotic
Darth Yoshi wrote: Sure, immortality sounds good now, but eventually I will get bored out of my mind. Never mind the heartache of falling in love again and again to only watch them die. It's like Flint in Star Trek. I prefer conditional immortality, where I can die whenever I choose to, but until then I won't die. Another thing. Does the immortality include regeneration? Because it would really suck if some guy lopped your head off, and you have to stay that way for the rest of eternity.
boredom is fought with stasis chambers. u can also use these chambers to simulate death. or you can set them to wake you in 2 billion years. you´ll have something much better than conditional immortality. you can die whenever you want to and you can resurect yourself some time later.

Posted: 2002-11-09 02:19pm
by Pu-239
salm wrote:
Pu-239 wrote:Life sucks. No.
that´s idiotic
Darth Yoshi wrote: Sure, immortality sounds good now, but eventually I will get bored out of my mind. Never mind the heartache of falling in love again and again to only watch them die. It's like Flint in Star Trek. I prefer conditional immortality, where I can die whenever I choose to, but until then I won't die. Another thing. Does the immortality include regeneration? Because it would really suck if some guy lopped your head off, and you have to stay that way for the rest of eternity.
boredom is fought with stasis chambers. u can also use these chambers to simulate death. or you can set them to wake you in 2 billion years. you´ll have something much better than conditional immortality. you can die whenever you want to and you can resurect yourself some time later.
Actually I'm a moron, not an idiot. There is a difference.

Posted: 2002-11-09 02:21pm
by Pu-239
well if you are immortal, you may be able to manipulate the world. How long after you die before you are ressurected?

Posted: 2002-11-09 02:25pm
by SirNitram
Given that my writing has curved round to this, I will give my answer.

No.

Immortality, while cool when we think of living one or two hundred years, maybe a thousand on the outside, is not worth it. To survive beyond your species existance is to be eternally alone, with no one you can properly relate to, even if another sentient species rises up.

In immortality, boredom is pretty bad. You could, of course, absorb knowledge your whole life and build things to amuse you.. Becoming a god thanks to Sufficiently Advanced Technology, maybe. Then the Universe ends, and unless you can rebuild the universe(A reference to the story 'The Last Question'), yer screwed.

Posted: 2002-11-09 02:41pm
by Pu-239
Due to the second law of thermodynamics, the universe will be dark cinders of stars and a bunch of heat eventually. Besides stasis pods can fail, and possibly you might not be able to repair it. Or it may be destroyed.

Posted: 2002-11-09 02:43pm
by Pu-239
Correct can to will.

Posted: 2002-11-09 02:57pm
by Sea Skimmer
Maybe, it depends on the details, like can I take my own life if I chose and how do I age

Posted: 2002-11-09 03:51pm
by Zaia
Absolutely not. Watching my friends and family die as I live on miserably without them? No thank you. They are why I am the person I am. And sure, I could meet new people, but no one who will mean even a minute fraction of what my true friends and family mean to me. Besides, as an immortal chick just wandering around the globe, how many people do you think I'm going to run into who can really relate to me and become a real friend? Think I'll be able to toss back a beer with someone and bitch about how I'm 497 and missing my best friend from high school who died some 430 years ago without hauling me to the nearest looney bin?

Besides, I think the whole point to life is to love and be loved by as many people as possible (go ahead, laugh and snicker if you like). I would end up shutting that off after a hundred years or so because of the pain it would cause me, and therefore I would end up just wasting the gift (read: curse) of immortality.

And I think stasis chambers would be cheating. If you accept immortality, you deal with it everyday. Period. You don't just stay awake for the good times.

Posted: 2002-11-09 08:03pm
by haas mark
salm wrote:
Pu-239 wrote:Life sucks. No.
that´s idiotic
Darth Yoshi wrote: Sure, immortality sounds good now, but eventually I will get bored out of my mind. Never mind the heartache of falling in love again and again to only watch them die. It's like Flint in Star Trek. I prefer conditional immortality, where I can die whenever I choose to, but until then I won't die. Another thing. Does the immortality include regeneration? Because it would really suck if some guy lopped your head off, and you have to stay that way for the rest of eternity.
boredom is fought with stasis chambers. u can also use these chambers to simulate death. or you can set them to wake you in 2 billion years. you´ll have something much better than conditional immortality. you can die whenever you want to and you can resurect yourself some time later.
And what if there is *nothing* in two billion years? You'd put yourself eternally in a stsis chamber. So you have the technology....but what's the point if eventually you are going to be the outsider?

Posted: 2002-11-09 08:08pm
by Shadowhawk
I'd take immortality, but only on two conditions:
1) I can end my life at the moment of my choosing, and
2) I'm physically invulnerable or I have some obscenely fast, perfect regeneration.

It'd be no fun being alive to watch the heat death of the universe, and it'd be no fun being immortal, but in pieces (ala Death Becomes Her).
I think that I could get over family and friends dying. I may want to have a similiarly immortal pet with me, though.

Posted: 2002-11-09 08:22pm
by salm
verilon wrote:
salm wrote:
Pu-239 wrote:Life sucks. No.
that´s idiotic
Darth Yoshi wrote: Sure, immortality sounds good now, but eventually I will get bored out of my mind. Never mind the heartache of falling in love again and again to only watch them die. It's like Flint in Star Trek. I prefer conditional immortality, where I can die whenever I choose to, but until then I won't die. Another thing. Does the immortality include regeneration? Because it would really suck if some guy lopped your head off, and you have to stay that way for the rest of eternity.
boredom is fought with stasis chambers. u can also use these chambers to simulate death. or you can set them to wake you in 2 billion years. you´ll have something much better than conditional immortality. you can die whenever you want to and you can resurect yourself some time later.
And what if there is *nothing* in two billion years? You'd put yourself eternally in a stsis chamber. So you have the technology....but what's the point if eventually you are going to be the outsider?

there´s going to be something somewhere in 2 billion years and you´ll have aquired the knowledge to build a device to go there in 2 billion years.

if you´re going to be an outsider you can still enjoy it. if you encounter a different species you´re deffinitely not going to be an outsider but the center of attention. your incredible knowledge will contirbute to being the center of attention as well.

if you dont encounter humans or a human like species you´re not going to get any chicks. that´s true. and that´s going to suck. but you´ll be smart enough to build an robot which does the job. i´m not sure if that´s sufficient, but it´s worth a try. at a certain point you´d be able to create your own human being.

if you´re still not happy you´ve still got the death emulating stasis chambers

Posted: 2002-11-09 08:26pm
by haas mark
salm wrote:
verilon wrote:
salm wrote: that´s idiotic
boredom is fought with stasis chambers. u can also use these chambers to simulate death. or you can set them to wake you in 2 billion years. you´ll have something much better than conditional immortality. you can die whenever you want to and you can resurect yourself some time later.
And what if there is *nothing* in two billion years? You'd put yourself eternally in a stsis chamber. So you have the technology....but what's the point if eventually you are going to be the outsider?

there´s going to be something somewhere in 2 billion years and you´ll have aquired the knowledge to build a device to go there in 2 billion years.

if you´re going to be an outsider you can still enjoy it. if you encounter a different species you´re deffinitely not going to be an outsider but the center of attention. your incredible knowledge will contirbute to being the center of attention as well.

if you dont encounter humans or a human like species you´re not going to get any chicks. that´s true. and that´s going to suck. but you´ll be smart enough to build an robot which does the job. i´m not sure if that´s sufficient, but it´s worth a try. at a certain point you´d be able to create your own human being.

if you´re still not happy you´ve still got the death emulating stasis chambers
I would rather die than have an emulator. Besides, what are the chances that you'll be able to mate? Slim to none. And eventually being an outsider's going to get boring. Admit it....At somepoint when the universe collapses, you're gonna be SOL.