On a lighter note, Ashlee Simpson on SNL..

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-10-24 06:58pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I don't think that this will hurt her career much, as it happened past the bedtimes of most of her fans.

And considering the intelligence of them.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2004-10-24 08:03pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I don't think that this will hurt her career much, as it happened past the bedtimes of most of her fans.
And considering the intelligence of them.

You know what sit down boyo. Some of us suppossedly older mature folks occasionally like a dip into mindless pop. Me personally I find it soothing in a "no thoguht required just listen without listening" kinda way. In other words there are a few smart Simpson fans (or at least listeners).

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-10-24 08:07pm

By far my favorite lip synch gaffe is the infamous and classic Mille Vanille show where the audio track gets stuck and repeats itself over and over. I still get a nice warm chuckle out of that when I remember it.

Dennis Toy · Post by **Dennis Toy** » 2004-10-24 08:44pm

I know some of you who was born 20 or more years ago remember the Milli Vanilli scandal.

sketerpot · Post by **sketerpot** » 2004-10-24 09:12pm

Alan Bolte wrote:If you can't do a live concert, why bother? Why the hell would people go to look at a stage and pretty lights and listen to a CD?

Obviously many people were willing to pay good money to go to a live CD-playing as long as they didn't know.

Flakin · Post by **Flakin** » 2004-10-24 09:43pm

Master of Ossus wrote:I loved her stunned, half-hearted attempts to dance around and cover for the spectacular error.

For me, thats the funniest thing about the whole event. Especially that last little hopscotch, one leg thing she does before slowly sliding off stage....

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2004-10-24 09:57pm

I was under the impression that SNL required their musical guests to actually perform on the show, wonder if this "gaffe" was engineered by some tech with a sense of humor and tradition?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-10-24 10:12pm

Don't some live concerts use vocal tracks as backup?

It's kind of expected isn't it? Dancing around for a while would be tiring and then you have to sing.

But, that isn't lip syncing I don't think.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-10-24 10:19pm

jmac wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:Is it really faking it if you're singing to something you previously recorded yourself?
Yes. The SNL audience paid for a live performance not pre-recorded tracks from her CD which they can listen to at home. Recall the Milli-Vanilli lip-synch scandal from the Grammy's almost 15 years ago.

That scandal was because THEY didn't sing their own songs at all.

(not that I disagree that lip synching (singing?) is cheating on a live audience)

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2004-10-24 10:54pm

Ashlee Simpson has a career? Didn't they just invent this little bitch like two months ago?

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2004-10-24 11:12pm

jmac wrote:You'd think she knows the words to her own songs, but I guess that's expecting a little too much from today's manufactured for MTV popstars.

You have to remember, it's kinda hard for those MTV pop acts to recall words and music to songs which they didn't write.

Of course, real artists do forget things from time to time as well, but that's usually because they have hundreds of songs out. I do remember members of the rock band R.E.M. saying they had to go out and buy their own songbooks to prepare for a tour.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-10-24 11:43pm

This is the problem with these pop stars. Very few can actually perform in an environment which wasn't explicitly scripted for them.

I find this almost hilarious. When I was in high school, I acted in and worked on school plays. Even we were able to go on if somebody fucked up a line. Hell, there was a time when I fucked up a line (I think it was me, anyway; this was 5 years ago or so) in such a manner that I advanced the script by about 12 pages. Everyone on stage, including me, was able to compensate. We moved on, improvised some lines to bridge the gap and went on. We weren't highly-paid pop star performers; we were actors in a high school play.

Then there was the time when our background soundtrack CD started skipping. (Our band couldn't perform that score for some reason, I think due to scheduling conflicts, so we just got an instrumental CD and hooked it up to the sound system.) When the CD fucked up, we stopped singing and waited for it to come back on, and then we started singing again. We didn't trudge off the stage in shame ... like Ashlee Simpson, highly-paid millionaire pop star who does this shit for a living.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-10-24 11:46pm

AHAHA!! I can't stand that type of music to begin with. No talent at all. And this is just perfect.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-10-24 11:53pm

It would be funny if it happen to Britney Spears in the middle of a concert

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-10-24 11:57pm

Durandal wrote:This is the problem with these pop stars. Very few can actually perform in an environment which wasn't explicitly scripted for them.

I find this almost hilarious. When I was in high school, I acted in and worked on school plays. Even we were able to go on if somebody fucked up a line. Hell, there was a time when I fucked up a line (I think it was me, anyway; this was 5 years ago or so) in such a manner that I advanced the script by about 12 pages. Everyone on stage, including me, was able to compensate. We moved on, improvised some lines to bridge the gap and went on. We weren't highly-paid pop star performers; we were actors in a high school play.

Then there was the time when our background soundtrack CD started skipping. (Our band couldn't perform that score for some reason, I think due to scheduling conflicts, so we just got an instrumental CD and hooked it up to the sound system.) When the CD fucked up, we stopped singing and waited for it to come back on, and then we started singing again. We didn't trudge off the stage in shame ... like Ashlee Simpson, highly-paid millionaire pop star who does this shit for a living.

Damn right you can tell she’s never even spent five minutes actually playing in a band, if she had actually cared to spent time in her basement/garage or wherever actually learning her trade with a real band to go with her rock chick get up she’d have found out that people screw up all the time and the other guys learn to work around it, rather like her backing band did. Instead the moment she had to think for herself rather than simply following her choreography she was utterly clueless.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-10-24 11:59pm

DEATH TO THE LIP SYNCHERS! DEATH, I SAY!

Ahem... I mean, yeah. That's what we real musicians like to call LAME IN THE EXTREME. *Grouses over how lip synchers manage to win high school talent shows over those who actually sing, and then stomps off to the practice rooms.*

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2004-10-25 12:07am

I'm reminded of the time Chantal Kreviazuk blanked out on a couple lines in the middle of a song in front of ~2600 people. She changed the piano part on the go, bridged the gap to the chorus, and finished out the song without any further goofs. Then at the end she asks "oh boy, what can I do to redeem myself? Redeem...hmmm...'redemption song...'" and after taking a few moments to figure out the key she improvised Bob Marley's "Redemption Song" on piano and voice. That is talent.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2004-10-25 12:30am

I remember hearing a tape of Metallica where they were too drunk to remember the words and started singing "La, la la la la, la la la! LA LA LA LA!" instead.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-10-25 12:38am

GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:I remember hearing a tape of Metallica where they were too drunk to remember the words and started singing "La, la la la la, la la la! LA LA LA LA!" instead.

That would be a massive improvement for Metallica.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-10-25 12:45am

Joe wrote:
GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:I remember hearing a tape of Metallica where they were too drunk to remember the words and started singing "La, la la la la, la la la! LA LA LA LA!" instead.
That would be a massive improvement for Metallica.

You shut your mouth! You shut your filthy mouth!

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2004-10-25 01:58am

Montcalm wrote:It would be funny if it happen to Britney Spears in the middle of a concert

It's only a matter of time, really. Britney Spears lip-synchs all her music. You can see it when she performs live. The movement of her lips doesn't quite match the words of the song.

White Cat · Post by **White Cat** » 2004-10-25 03:32am

I'm curious, is there any chance that she wasn't trying to lip synch? For example, the sound technician was supposed to play Song #1 with no vocal track (so she would do the singing herself), but instead he played Song #2 with a vocal track?

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-10-25 07:54am

Update: so she wasn't lip synching after all.http://www.sky.com/showbiz/article/0,,5 ... 72,00.html

Marksist · Post by **Marksist** » 2004-10-25 08:06am

ah thanks BS.

Later, her record firm and publicist blamed it on a "computer glitch".

A spokesman for the show said: "She told us it was only a back-up.

Because a spokesman for the record company that makes money off of Simpson says it wasn't lip-synching, then it must be true.

Marksist · Post by **Marksist** » 2004-10-25 08:07am

Edit above: I meant show that makes money from it.