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Posted: 2002-11-11 04:43pm
by Kelly Antilles
Larz wrote:Its always hard to remember music after a time. I have to look for the tab and lyrics for the first guitar song I preformed in concert cause I can't remember a lick of it. Well, the only good thing when trying to remember music is that most the time one creates something new instead. And even at times that newly created thing is better than the original.
I can remember nearly every piece of music I've played. It's the ones I never played or only played once or twice taht I can't remember. Playing bass clarinet takes a good ear. You play with EVERYONE in the band at any given point in a piece. If you're playing with the trombones and they're all sharp, you have to adjust your pitch to match theirs. So, I know every little detail in pieces I've played.
Posted: 2002-11-11 04:44pm
by Zaia
Kelly Antilles wrote:That was almost 15 years ago, Zaia. I can't remember what it was I was translating now.
I figured as much, but I was hoping maybe you had tucked away in a dusty box somewhere...

I wish you hadn't been screwed by politics. You know, you don't have to have a degree to teach in private school (at least, in Maryland that's how it works).....*hopeful smile*

Posted: 2002-11-11 04:45pm
by Kuja
Kelly Antilles wrote:If you're playing with the trombones and they're all sharp, you have to adjust your pitch to match theirs.
No one I know who plays t-bone has ever had that problem. We just blast too much.

Posted: 2002-11-11 04:45pm
by haas mark
Zaia wrote:Kelly Antilles wrote:That was almost 15 years ago, Zaia. I can't remember what it was I was translating now.
I figured as much, but I was hoping maybe you had tucked away in a dusty box somewhere...

I wish you hadn't been screwed by politics. You know, you don't have to have a degree to teach in private school (at least, in Maryland that's how it works).....*hopeful smile*

Beaurocracy. Ugh. Anyways, IIRC, you don't have to have a degree to be a private tutor. If not a director, then the next best thing!

Posted: 2002-11-11 04:46pm
by haas mark
IG-88E wrote:Kelly Antilles wrote:If you're playing with the trombones and they're all sharp, you have to adjust your pitch to match theirs.
No one I know who plays t-bone has ever had that problem. We just blast too much.

Exactly. Trombones are REALLY loud...thank god you're not as obnoxious as some trumpets....
Besides, being in a symphony, violas (like myself) half to tune up with the trombones more often than not, and it can be really hard when someone's sharp and sopmeone's not and you dunno which one's right.
Posted: 2002-11-11 04:47pm
by Larz
Kelly Antilles wrote:Larz wrote:Its always hard to remember music after a time. I have to look for the tab and lyrics for the first guitar song I preformed in concert cause I can't remember a lick of it. Well, the only good thing when trying to remember music is that most the time one creates something new instead. And even at times that newly created thing is better than the original.
I can remember nearly every piece of music I've played. It's the ones I never played or only played once or twice taht I can't remember. Playing bass clarinet takes a good ear. You play with EVERYONE in the band at any given point in a piece. If you're playing with the trombones and they're all sharp, you have to adjust your pitch to match theirs. So, I know every little detail in pieces I've played.
I know how that goes. I used to play French Horn in band, I was the only one too so I always got first position. If I wasn't tuned with the rest of the band, then my sound stuck out like a sore thumb.
Posted: 2002-11-11 04:51pm
by Kelly Antilles
IG-88E wrote:Kelly Antilles wrote:If you're playing with the trombones and they're all sharp, you have to adjust your pitch to match theirs.
No one I know who plays t-bone has ever had that problem. We just blast too much.

Thing is, 'bones have it easiest to get in tune with everyone else, just adjust your position up or down slightly.
Posted: 2002-11-11 04:51pm
by Kuja
verilon wrote:
Exactly. Trombones are REALLY loud...thank god you're not as obnoxious as some trumpets....

IME, trumpet players are more arrogant tham most musicians becuase so many pieces feature them.
Besides, being in a symphony, violas (like myself) half to tune up with the trombones more often than not, and it can be really hard when someone's sharp and sopmeone's not and you dunno which one's right.
That's what handheld tuners are for.
Posted: 2002-11-11 04:52pm
by Kuja
Kelly Antilles wrote:
Thing is, 'bones have it easiest to get in tune with everyone else, just adjust your position up or down slightly.
Which is why they usually had one of us test the tuners in band.
Posted: 2002-11-11 04:53pm
by haas mark
IG-88E wrote:verilon wrote:
Exactly. Trombones are REALLY loud...thank god you're not as obnoxious as some trumpets....

IME, trumpet players are more arrogant tham most musicians becuase so many pieces feature them.
I know all too well.....*shudder*....never do I want to sit back row viola--EVER AGAIN!
Besides, being in a symphony, violas (like myself) half to tune up with the trombones more often than not, and it can be really hard when someone's sharp and sopmeone's not and you dunno which one's right.
That's what handheld tuners are for.
Doesn't exactly help when you're in the middle of the piece....

Posted: 2002-11-11 04:55pm
by Kuja
verilon wrote:Doesn't exactly help when you're in the middle of the piece....

That's when it gets tricky.
Posted: 2002-11-11 04:56pm
by haas mark
IG-88E wrote:verilon wrote:Doesn't exactly help when you're in the middle of the piece....

That's when it gets tricky.
Yes, it does.....which is why we trust the oboes sometimes.

Posted: 2002-11-11 04:57pm
by Kuja
verilon wrote:Yes, it does.....which is why we trust the oboes sometimes.

Ugh. Most of the oboe players I know are comeplete ditzes, and I wouldn't trust them with a Swedish chainsaw.
Posted: 2002-11-11 04:59pm
by haas mark
IG-88E wrote:verilon wrote:Yes, it does.....which is why we trust the oboes sometimes.

Ugh. Most of the oboe players I know are comeplete ditzes, and I wouldn't trust them with a Swedish chainsaw.
lol, you have yet to come here. The ditzy ones are (of course) the flute players and First Violins. In other words, the snobs.
Posted: 2002-11-11 05:03pm
by Zaia
IG-88E wrote:IME, trumpet players are more arrogant tham most musicians becuase so many pieces feature them.
I think it's more that they are almost always heard, above everyone else in any ensemble, and if they crack their notes they suck and if they nail them, they're awesome. There's no middle ground. I unfortunately have this bizarre sixth sense when it comes to trumpet players--I can actually detect them, even out of a crowed of strangers (I did this on a bus boy at a restaurant sucessfully). I am drawn to them, even though their egos drive me bonkers...

Their opinions on themselves are extremely bipolar; either maddeningly egotistical or severely depressed. I've mostly kicked the habit, though. *phew*

Free at last, free at last...
Posted: 2002-11-11 05:07pm
by haas mark
Zaia wrote:IG-88E wrote:IME, trumpet players are more arrogant tham most musicians becuase so many pieces feature them.
I think it's more that they are almost always heard, above everyone else in any ensemble, and if they crack their notes they suck and if they nail them, they're awesome. There's no middle ground. I unfortunately have this bizarre sixth sense when it comes to trumpet players--I can actually detect them, even out of a crowed of strangers (I did this on a bus boy at a restaurant sucessfully). I am drawn to them, even though their egos drive me bonkers...

Their opinions on themselves are extremely bipolar; either maddeningly egotistical or severely depressed. I've mostly kicked the habit, though. *phew*

Free at last, free at last...
Wow.....and I dislike trumpeteers SEVERELY. THere are two that I can remember that were actually cool, but they converted to viola-ism.

Posted: 2002-11-11 06:47pm
by Larz
Stupid Trumpet or T-bone, no one remembers the French Horn, NOBODY! But I play the guitar now so I rule over all.
Posted: 2002-11-11 06:50pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
I have a freeware programme that allows me to make my own MIDIs.
But I'm not much of a musical person, so it's not very usefull. But it is pretty cool to screw around with.
Posted: 2002-11-11 06:54pm
by Kuja
Larz wrote:Stupid Trumpet or T-bone, no one remembers the French Horn, NOBODY! But I play the guitar now so I rule over all.
One of my old GFs played french horn and mellophone.
Posted: 2002-11-11 07:17pm
by haas mark
Larz wrote:Stupid Trumpet or T-bone, no one remembers the French Horn, NOBODY! But I play the guitar now so I rule over all.
My triple concerto involves a french horn.
Posted: 2002-11-11 07:25pm
by Larz
But how many French Horn solos have you heared?... its a very methodical insturment, can be gentle as a pan flute and blarring torrent as the baritone all based on the player... the strength of the lips and how one uses the hand in the bell (we don't put our hands in the bell for decoration) can produces great sounds from it.
Posted: 2002-11-11 07:27pm
by haas mark
Larz wrote:But how many French Horn solos have you heared?... its a very methodical insturment, can be gentle as a pan flute and blarring torrent as the baritone all based on the player... the strength of the lips and how one uses the hand in the bell (we don't put our hands in the bell for decoration) can produces great sounds from it.
Several. Called it ABQ Youth Symphony. And the Fr. Horn is one of the solo instruments. The other two are viola and oboe. I have my reasons.
Posted: 2002-11-11 07:29pm
by Larz
Hmm, well, till saturday night I've never really heard French Horn Solo (I went to the new touring show Blast!), but its still a far and few solo
Posted: 2002-11-11 08:06pm
by Kelly Antilles
Larz wrote:Hmm, well, till saturday night I've never really heard French Horn Solo (I went to the new touring show Blast!), but its still a far and few solo
Mozart's 4 Horn concertos are my favorite. Especially when played by a really good horn player. And I always hear the FH. I sit right beside them.

Posted: 2002-11-11 08:24pm
by Larz
I never understood why the French Horns were always placed next to the Bassoons and Oboes... wierd...